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brontide 2008-07-01 00:42

Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Hey... obviously people are downloading. Any feedback related to the application itself?

TrueJournals 2008-07-01 02:49

Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Ummm...
"It's awesome!"
"Keep up the good work!"
"Great job!"
I think that about sums it up...

Actually, I do have a real request. The title of the window is currently "gc_dialer.py - Dialer" -- This makes it show up as:
Code:

gc_dialer.py
Dialer

in the application switcher. It would be nice if the title was "GC Dialer - (name of tab)" So, if you are on the keypad tab it's "GC Dialer - Keypad", on the Recent tab it's "GC Dialer - Recent", etc. This would make the title look more friendly, and give a quick glance of what tab you're going to end up on when you switch to the application.

heavyt 2008-07-01 02:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 197409)
Thanks brontide, that update fixed my logging in error. It was a pleasure being a beta tester a few days ago. :D

I spoke to soon, the problem is still there. What is strange is the GC Dialer shows my Gizmo call back # in the account tab even if I don't try to log in. After 3 failed attempts I get the standard "Backend Link...." pop up. But I can still log in with the "beta GC Dialer".

brontide 2008-07-01 03:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 197936)
I spoke to soon, the problem is still there. What is strange is the GC Dialer shows my Gizmo call back # in the account tab even if I don't try to log in. After 3 failed attempts I get the standard "Backend Link...." pop up. But I can still log in with the "beta GC Dialer".

If you are getting prompted multiple times, you are logging in incorrectly ( and/or GC is being cranky on you ). I'll try and get a alpha version with full debugging to you so I can see what's going on. Triple check that you don't have one of the shift/Fn/.. locked.

Great idea for the titlebar, I'll work on that tonight and see if I can get it to work.

heavyt 2008-07-01 03:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brontide (Post 197940)
If you are getting prompted multiple times, you are logging in incorrectly ( and/or GC is being cranky on you ). I'll try and get a alpha version with full debugging to you so I can see what's going on. Triple check that you don't have one of the shift/Fn/.. locked.

Great idea for the titlebar, I'll work on that tonight and see if I can get it to work.

I check and double check my log in data. Same log in info works for the beta dialer and for GC Mobile page.
For some reason the dialer will show a log of my calls in the Recent tab but will not allow me to make a call.

heavyt 2008-07-01 03:15

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Is there a plan to have the Dialer keep the User name and Password so one does not have to re-enter this info every time one starts the Dialer?

brontide 2008-07-01 03:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 197945)
Is there a plan to have the Dialer keep the User name and Password so one does not have to re-enter this info every time one starts the Dialer?

I didn't want to have to keep name and password on the unit. In theory, and by lack of other complaints, I can only assume it's not a widespread issue. The fact that some of the data is still there is weird since that wold indicate a valid login.... do you use any unusual characters in your username or password?

Oh, titlebar is now fixed in my local copy. I'm going to try and wire up a copy for debug and ship it out to you to see if I can understand your issue better.

racky 2008-07-01 03:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brontide (Post 197289)
770 support: I'm hoping that epage will be able to take the lead on 770 support and I already have my suspicions on why this version didn't work. It may be a trivial fix, but worst case scenario we will have to branch the UI code to support the 770.

I hope to see the new version for 770 soon, any progress?
Is it a way you can put out a 0.4a version in a deb that can fix that bug for the 0.4 version in the mean time?

epage 2008-07-01 03:58

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Sorry on the delayed 770 support. I had things going on the last couple days, but tomorrow night is devoted to it.

racky 2008-07-01 04:42

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Originally Posted by epage (Post 197961)
Sorry on the delayed 770 support. I had things going on the last couple days, but tomorrow night is devoted to it.

Wonderful, I can't wait to see the new version, thanks.:D

gnuite 2008-07-01 18:30

Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brontide (Post 197910)
Hey... obviously people are downloading. Any feedback related to the application itself?

It is awesome. This is such a useful application.

Two comments:

1. Have you considered hosting your project on garage.maemo.org to facilitate both (a) collaborative development; and (b) .install-file-based updates? .deb management is cumbersome....

2. Is it possible to integrate with the Contacts application so that we can use phone numbers stored in the Contacts database? In a perfect world, I'd be able to start GCD from the Contacts application (instead of the built-in VOIP app), but that is probably impossible, so it may be on GCD's shoulders to get the contact information from Contacts and display it in a usable way....

Thanks again for helping to develop this wonderful application.

Jiggie 2008-07-01 19:13

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Can anybody send me an invitation from grandcentral. Let me know if you need my number or mail address.
Thanks in advance.

brontide 2008-07-01 19:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 198201)
It is awesome. This is such a useful application.

Wow, thanks.

1) I think its on garage already ( z2n is the admin of the project ). I believe the goal is to have this moved into the download area/extras in the not too distant future ( weeks, not months ). Short of svn I have no clue what I'm doing on garage which is why it's not there already.

2) Yes, it is possible I have the power. I played with the URI handling code and it's possible to intercept but it requires changing several system files. I believe epage is looking into pulling the contact info over d-bus into the application which seems like a cleaner approach anyways.

2a) I would like to tap the TEL uri handling so that websites that have iphone "call" buttons will bring up the number in the Dialer. I may make this a sperate app that can do more of a switchboard approach, you defining how different types of numbers get routed. the biggest issue is that anything that requires DTMF will not work through GC.

I think ( epage can correct me if I'm wrong ) but here is where we are headed.

* Name change to remove Grandcentral from the project name ( It's asking for trouble ). Depending o n how boring we all are it will probably just become "Dialer".
* Proper housing on garage/extras
* Better maemo citizen, responding to osso calls about low memory and hibernation.
* Better "offline" handling
* 770 support
* Contacts in some form

brontide 2008-07-01 19:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggie (Post 198211)
Can anybody send me an invitation from grandcentral. Let me know if you need my number or mail address.
Thanks in advance.

THERE ARE NO MORE INVITATIONS. GOOGLE TOOK THEM ALL AWAY FROM ALL USERS

Sorry for shouting, this question has been asked and answered in many many many places including iTT.

matthewcb4 2008-07-01 19:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by therock_80 (Post 197178)
I checked "Language and Region" settings is English(USA)
Since i bought it a week ago, i'm still new to N810. I have nt update firmware or OS anything except Python2.5 package installed. It's Chinook.

If you just bought your n810 a week ago did you already have a grandcentral account?

I have been waiting for them to send me an invite deal for about a week now!!! Its a little crazy to have to wait so long.

heavyt 2008-07-01 19:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brontide (Post 198213)
Wow, thanks.

1) I think its on garage already ( z2n is the admin of the project ). I believe the goal is to have this moved into the download area/extras in the not too distant future ( weeks, not months ). Short of svn I have no clue what I'm doing on garage which is why it's not there already.

2) Yes, it is possible I have the power. I played with the URI handling code and it's possible to intercept but it requires changing several system files. I believe epage is looking into pulling the contact info over d-bus into the application which seems like a cleaner approach anyways.

2a) I would like to tap the TEL uri handling so that websites that have iphone "call" buttons will bring up the number in the Dialer. I may make this a sperate app that can do more of a switchboard approach, you defining how different types of numbers get routed. the biggest issue is that anything that requires DTMF will not work through GC.

I think ( epage can correct me if I'm wrong ) but here is where we are headed.

* Name change to remove Grandcentral from the project name ( It's asking for trouble ). Depending o n how boring we all are it will probably just become "Dialer".
* Proper housing on garage/extras
* Better maemo citizen, responding to osso calls about low memory and hibernation.
* Better "offline" handling
* 770 support
* Contacts in some form


You are right the name Dialer doesn't do justice for a great tool that marriage the (some of) best of N8XX with the best of GrandCentral. Can't wait till WiMax comes to Baltimore in September, monster trio. :D

epage 2008-07-01 23:16

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Been trying to get some name ideas and some I've heard include:
* Switchboard
* Operator
* Carter, Carterfone, or something like it in memory of the FCC decision
http://arstechnica.com/articles/cult...e-40-years.ars

heavyt 2008-07-02 00:17

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Here are a couple suggestions for a name
1.)DialCentral
2.)DailCenter

munky261 2008-07-02 01:01

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regarding the possibility of gpe contacts integration...is how it would be done (i hope) open gpe contacts and just tap a number and the dialer will dial it..without bringing up the dialpad?

epage 2008-07-02 02:26

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There is preliminary OS2007HE support for the 770 in the trunk. I still need to play with package building on that platform, but you can run it yourself if you checkout the code, "build_script.sh os2007" and then copy the contents of "build-os2007" to your device.

Sorry, I'm not running OS2006 but if anyone is, hopefully its close enough.

The only issue I detected is a cosmetic issue with tabs. Every other tab is bogus and the tab labels are bad. This was one minor change in the glade file that is just off enough that my limited regex skills were not able to handle it (currently we transform the code to each supported platform). The "770" branch I used for experimenting has a glade file that does not have this issue since I made the changes by hand.

epage 2008-07-02 03:08

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Here is an example of the issue (OS2007HE only)
http://i32.tinypic.com/8wce9s.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/2d9qtz5.jpg

superstar 2008-07-02 03:11

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Brontide should be the name of the app, immortalize it! There's no need to redundantly rename it to Dialer or the likes, we already know it's purpose... Brontide, it actually sounds an intriguing word (don't know if it means anything but it does make you wonder the meaning...)

Anyone with me?

TrueJournals 2008-07-02 03:19

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Yay Internet! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/d.../d0002732.html
Quote:

brontide
n. sound like distant thunder, due to seismic causes.
Not sure if it really shows what the app does... :-P My vote goes for DialerCentral, if anyone's keeping track...

superstar 2008-07-02 03:24

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Originally Posted by TrueJournals (Post 198364)
Yay Internet! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/d.../d0002732.html


Not sure if it really shows what the app does... :-P My vote goes for DialerCentral, if anyone's keeping track...

Cool! learned something new today, I guess I should have googled brontide before typing that...

paps 2008-07-02 05:53

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Originally Posted by brontide (Post 197130)
Yeah, I don't see why I couldn't do something. I was very concerned about functionality in this release more than some smaller UI issues. I'll look into it. I was hoping to have bold number about 50% bigger on top of smaller letters in the end.

I just upgraded to 0.7-2, and I gotta say this thing is as perfect as it can be for me. Great job really!

Quote:

Nope, we have to live with the VoIP clients at this point. I don't know anyone bold enough to try fixing them.
Seems like most of my issues are with the Voip client, and I'm not bold enough to tackle them.

Quote:

If you want to, but it could be handy and it's tiny in the grand scheme of things.
Thanks for the reply, I'll hang onto it for now.

racky 2008-07-02 06:37

Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epage (Post 198361)
Here is an example of the issue (OS2007HE only)
http://i32.tinypic.com/8wce9s.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/2d9qtz5.jpg

It looks nice, but I really have to test it to tell. I hope you can fix that bogus tab problem.
Thanks.

heavyt 2008-07-02 17:09

Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brontide (Post 197940)
If you are getting prompted multiple times, you are logging in incorrectly ( and/or GC is being cranky on you ). I'll try and get a alpha version with full debugging to you so I can see what's going on. Triple check that you don't have one of the shift/Fn/.. locked......

Just wondering had you have any luck with the alpha, if not no big deal I will use the beta Dialer.

brontide 2008-07-02 18:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 198587)
Just wondering had you have any luck with the alpha, if not no big deal I will use the beta Dialer.

Life has kept me busy. I'll .deb up the latest changes to see if it makes any difference.

Munk 2008-07-02 20:00

Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Hey, I tried to upgrade to .7-2 and it says:

Quote:

Unable to install Grandcentral_Dialer
I was using version .6 with no issues and am not sure if the attempt to install was successful because it still runs fine. The "Application Manager" shows the broken red exclamation icon next to "grandcentral_dialer" and shows it as 0.7. The "About" does not tell you the version you have just "Copyright 2008".

I guess, as long as it still works it's no big deal but just was curious.

heavyt 2008-07-04 19:23

Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brontide (Post 198643)
Life has kept me busy. I'll .deb up the latest changes to see if it makes any difference.

Got it to work. I rm all files that had gc_dialer in their names, reinstall and problem is gone! Thanks for your time. :D

Suggestions:
1.) When a number is selected from the Recent tab to be dialed, only the number is displayed in the Keypad tab, what about displaying the name and number?

2.) If the Dialer is used without the Gizmo or Rtcomm applications running in the background the number dial will ring (when the party answers they will hear your Gizmo voice mail recording) but it will not ring on the N8xx. To avoid this confusion why not have a setting in the Account tab where one can select a default "phone" to ring on the N8xx.

munky261 2008-07-06 08:53

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can someone tell me how , on the application menu to change the name of the entry from"grandcentral dialer" to simply "phone" ?

brontide 2008-07-06 13:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 199816)
can someone tell me how , on the application menu to change the name of the entry from"grandcentral dialer" to simply "phone" ?

I assume you are using either 0.4 or 0.5. If so I believe you would edit the string in /usr/local/lib/gc_dialer.glade

brontide 2008-07-06 14:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 199406)
2.) If the Dialer is used without the Gizmo or Rtcomm applications running in the background the number dial will ring (when the party answers they will hear your Gizmo voice mail recording) but it will not ring on the N8xx. To avoid this confusion why not have a setting in the Account tab where one can select a default "phone" to ring on the N8xx.

The logic in 0.6+ is that when a default callback number has not already been selected and saved at grandcentral it will go through the list of phone numbers and select 1) the phone number starting with 1 (747) 2) The phone number with the text gizmo 3) the phone number with the text computer or 4) the first phone number in the list.

So, by default, it will auto-configure your gizmo number.

munky261 2008-07-06 22:39

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what do i useto edit that and how do i do it? oh and in the usr/local/lib/ folder it says gc_dialer.xml , not .glade

heavyt 2008-07-06 23:14

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Originally Posted by brontide (Post 199868)
The logic in 0.6+ is that when a default callback number has not already been selected and saved at grandcentral it will go through the list of phone numbers and select 1) the phone number starting with 1 (747) 2) The phone number with the text gizmo 3) the phone number with the text computer or 4) the first phone number in the list.

So, by default, it will auto-configure your gizmo number.

I think you misunderstood my post, callback number is not the problem.
Launch your GC Dialer and call any number (a number you can answer) but make sure Gizmo is not running nor is rtcomm (your presence settings should show your are Disconnected )and see what happens. Now do you see the point I was trying to make? GC Dialer should have a setting that the user can select Gizmo or rtcomm as the default call back phone application.

brontide 2008-07-07 01:41

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Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 200003)
I think you misunderstood my post, callback number is not the problem.
Launch your GC Dialer and call any number (a number you can answer) but make sure Gizmo is not running nor is rtcomm (your presence settings should show your are Disconnected )and see what happens. Now do you see the point I was trying to make? GC Dialer should have a setting that the user can select Gizmo or rtcomm as the default call back phone application.

I think that is well outside the scope of the application at this point.

tribecca 2008-07-07 03:39

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How does one get an invitation to Grand Central?

brontide 2008-07-07 03:58

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Originally Posted by tribecca (Post 200070)
How does one get an invitation to Grand Central?

There are NO MORE invitations whatsoever. The only way to get a number if to reserve one through the grandcentral.com site and hope they get around to you eventually ( 2-6 months ).

I'm sorry, nobody here can help you.

paps 2008-07-10 17:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tribecca (Post 200070)
How does one get an invitation to Grand Central?

It's worth a shot, but you can try calling them directly:

510-405-1607

or try reaching them through the support page:

http://www.google.com/support/grandc...ntact_type=web

If you explain that you have been waiting a while for an invite, I'm 99% sure you'll have a favorable response;)

qole 2008-07-10 17:42

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I just want to say that this new UI is really nice. The new level of integration, and the removal of the web page from the equation... it really grows on you. Good job!


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