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brontide 2008-07-10 17:48
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
I've lost steam on the dialer project at this point. I'll try and motivate myself to kick the svn again and see if we can get it prepared for a garage -> devel -> extras release. At this point I see no reason that it can't be in extras for others to install.

epage 2008-07-13 03:22
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Work has slowed down with other developers, but has not stopped. I don't remember when we released the last version, so its hard to nail down what features are new, but here is my best guess of whats new in the trunk:
* Low memory handling
* Connection handling
* Grand Central contact support (Not merged yet, Maemo contacts are still in the pipeline, having a working SDK would make it go faster but still having problems with that)
* Fullscreen (untested)
* Menu bar on desktop (tested), Hildon Menu on device (untested) with limited clipboard support (tested)
* Bug fixes
* Code cleanup

All this while still trying to maintain a low memory/processor footprint especially by trying to keep our HTTP roundtrips down.

bobloadmire 2008-07-19 20:43
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
any news on the next version? contact information integration would be awesomeness mctastey.

epage 2008-07-19 21:04
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
GC Contact support is merged into trunk. There is look at Maemo contacts, but I am currently hindered on a lot of maemo testing and development due laziness in getting the SDK working or making my 770 a good dev/test/packaging tool.

You can checkout the trunk, run "make PACKAGE=os2007" and copy the files over to your device.

tj110158 2008-07-19 23:57
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
First of all, I'd like to say that this is the most useful app I have installed since buying my N800, because it actually works, But I think I set something up incorrectly, because when I dial a phone number from the dial pad, it calls my cellphone, when I pick up the call on my cellphone, it transfers the call to the number I'm calling. Is this the way its suppose to work? and what if I didn't have the cellphone number in Grandcental? what would happen then? Not complaining, just trying to understand.
Thanks for all your hard work

brontide 2008-07-20 00:55
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tj110158 (Post 204910)
First of all, I'd like to say that this is the most useful app I have installed since buying my N800, because it actually works, But I think I set something up incorrectly, because when I dial a phone number from the dial pad, it calls my cellphone, when I pick up the call on my cellphone, it transfers the call to the number I'm calling. Is this the way its suppose to work? and what if I didn't have the cellphone number in Grandcental? what would happen then? Not complaining, just trying to understand.
Thanks for all your hard work
That's the way it works ( in theory ). If you want the Nokia to "ring" you need to setup a Gizmo account and make sure it's setup as a SIP account on the Nokia.

Once that is setup you should go into the "Account" tab and make sure your 1 (747) number is the callback number. You can actually make the callback number *ANY* number ( home phone, cell phone, work phone, ... ).

pablob 2008-07-20 17:55
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Hi!

For some feedback, I've just installed version 0.7-2 in my 770 with OS2008HE, and it works! (No problems with tabs or anything).

Thanks for a great app!!

bobloadmire 2008-07-20 22:54
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
yeah its a great app, but i have to memorize all of the numbers i want to call. And the call back number i select doesn't show up on the caller ID when i call some one, i gives my GC number.

brontide 2008-07-20 23:23
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobloadmire (Post 205257)
yeah its a great app, but i have to memorize all of the numbers i want to call. And the call back number i select doesn't show up on the caller ID when i call some one, i gives my GC number.
epage is working on integration with the Nokia contact database. You can also tap on any line in the "recent" tab and it will just back to the keypad with the number filled in.

Unfortunately I don't know if there is an option to change the caller id.

racky 2008-07-31 01:29
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Any update for the 0.7 version to work on the 770 with OS2007HE and OS2006?

epage 2008-07-31 01:33
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
It seems to run on my 770 with OS2007HE fine but I am a novice to packaging (I know I know, I hate it when I come across stuff and there aren't packages)

brontide 2008-07-31 01:42
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
I'll try and get around to pulling down the latest, building and testing on Diablo, and then packaging it up this week.

racky 2008-07-31 01:43
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
I tried it on both 2006OS and 2007HE, they both will not start. What is your step? How did you make it to work on 2007HE?

racky 2008-07-31 01:51
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by brontide (Post 208812)
I'll try and get around to pulling down the latest, building and testing on Diablo, and then packaging it up this week.
I have it on my N800 2008 Diablo, and it is working very well. That is why I want it on my 770 also. Thanks for the great app.

brontide 2008-07-31 01:58
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by racky (Post 208813)
I tried it on both 2006OS and 2007HE, they both will not start. What is your step? How did you make it to work on 2007HE?
He has been working on the source. I will trust that it works under os2007(he) because I have no way to test.

racky 2008-07-31 02:09
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by brontide (Post 208817)
He has been working on the source. I will trust that it works under os2007(he) because I have no way to test.
I will try to reflesh my 2007HE again, and hope it will work this time. :(

brontide 2008-07-31 02:24
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by racky (Post 208824)
I will try to reflesh my 2007HE again, and hope it will work this time. :(
Gah, it won't work until I've made a .deb up. 0.7-2 will not work. It works for epage because he is using the bleeding edge SVN copy.

racky 2008-07-31 02:26
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Thanks, I will wait then. Keep up the good work on both of you.

tlacuache 2008-07-31 14:08
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
I've got the latest revision from subversion (currently 110) running on my laptop (running Ubuntu 8.04). I've noticed that lately I'm unable to make calls. I know I'm logged in, I can see the contacts and recent calls. I've tried clearing the authentication and reauthenticating. This is what I see on the terminal when I click "dial":

Code:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./gc_dialer.py", line 580, in _on_dial_clicked
    if not loggedIn or not self._gcBackend.is_authed() or self._gcBackend.get_callback_number() == "":
UnboundLocalError: local variable 'loggedIn' referenced before assignment
Any ideas what I might be doing wrong? Or have I found a bug? I've considered just going back to an earlier version, but I thought I'd ask.

Thanks!

epage 2008-07-31 14:12
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
*sigh* Sorry about that, wasn't thinking/testing when I committed. I just submitted a patch with other stuff that should be tested.

tlacuache 2008-07-31 15:00
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
You, sir, are a god among men. Thank you.

I did notice another weird thing, but it doesn't seem to affect the behavior of the program. When I first start the dialer, my GrandCentral Number on the Account tab shows up as (518) 555-1212, and the text is smaller. The callback number list, and other account information such as contacts and recent calls, is correct. If I re-authenticate, my actual grandcentral number shows up correctly.

Thanks again.

brontide 2008-07-31 15:20
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tlacuache (Post 208988)
You, sir, are a god among men. Thank you.

I did notice another weird thing, but it doesn't seem to affect the behavior of the program. When I first start the dialer, my GrandCentral Number on the Account tab shows up as (518) 555-1212, and the text is smaller. The callback number list, and other account information such as contacts and recent calls, is correct. If I re-authenticate, my actual grandcentral number shows up correctly.

Thanks again.
Sounds like another bug the (518) 555-1212 is just placeholder text in the .glade file, it should never be seen at runtime.

epage 2008-07-31 22:46
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Hmm, helps if I'm a bit more observant. I've not really payed attention to the account number but I definitely see how my last couple of changes would have broken that.

Fixed in rev 112

ps Thanks for using it, with how quiet the thread is been wondering what peoples thoughts have been though probably doesn't help not releasing new packages but suggesting checkout out subversion

epage 2008-07-31 22:48
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Have people played with the (gc) contact support much? I'm curious what your thoughts are on its performance/functionality/usability. Sorry I've been lazy/annoyed with the SDK and haven't done Maemo contacts yet.

TrueJournals 2008-08-01 04:56
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Just put the latest svn on my n800 running diablo. Here are my observations:
- The menu is not properly hildonized
- GC contacts did not work AT ALL. Switching to the tab shows nothing, even though calling and the recent tab work fine.
- I'd like to see the title of the window change based on tab name. Ex: Dialer - Diaalpad when on the dialpad, but Dialer - Recent when on the recent tab, etc. All this really does is show which tab is open on the task switcher (when the home button is pressed)
- This version seems to be much more cpu-intensive when opening.

GC contacts sounds like a great idea... I'd love to be able to try it ;-)

If it's any help, here's the command line output when opening, then switching to "contacts" tab:
Code:
~ $ /usr/local/bin/gc_dialer.py
/usr/local/bin/gc_dialer.py:688: GtkWarning: gtk_widget_grab_default: assertion `GTK_WIDGET_CAN_DEFAULT (widget)' failed
  self._widgetTree = gtk.glade.XML(path)
/usr/local/bin/gc_dialer.py:1121: UserWarning: Hildon installed but glade file not updated to work with hildon
  handle = Dialpad()
/usr/local/bin/gc_dialer.py:1121: UserWarning: No abook and No evolution address book support
  handle = Dialpad()
/usr/local/bin/gc_dialer.py:245: UserWarning: Performing download of http://www.grandcentral.com/mobile/settings/forwarding_select
  forwardSelectionPage = self._browser.download(GCDialer._forwardselectURL)
python2.5[3407]: GLIB DEBUG ConIc - con_ic_connection_send_event(0x246880, Home, WLAN_INFRA, 0)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/gc_dialer.py", line 582, in callable
    a[0].next()
  File "/usr/local/bin/gc_dialer.py", line 884, in _idly_populate_contactsview
    gc_icon = gtk.gdk.pixbuf_new_from_file_at_size('gc_contact.png', 16, 16)
gobject.GError: Failed to open file 'gc_contact.png': No such file or directory
Am I just missing an image?

[edit]Yup, it was the image. Contacts seems to work well! I'll have to teest how it handles contacts with multiple numbers ;-)

tlacuache 2008-08-01 11:28
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Thanks, the updated revision fixed the problem with the placeholder phone number showing up.

I have been using it quit a bit lately. More on my desktop than my n800. After your recent fixes, I really have no complaints at all functionality-wise. Contacts work great... with multiple numbers per contact I'm shown a dialog to choose from. Recent calls show up correctly. I can easily change my callback number. For me, Gizmo/SIP-GrandCentral-GrandCentral Dialer has become the "killer app" for my n800.

So, thanks again!

-SG

epage 2008-08-02 03:13
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
@TrueJournals

Thanks for the feedback. It looks like when trying to prevent other bugs I broke hildon support (joy of inheritance). So I fixed a couple of bugs related to hildon support and played with it on my 770 w/ os2007HE

As another note, I learned dpkg-deb and am making packages to some degree. They seem to work on my desktop (ubuntu) and on my 770. I cannot fully attest to the icon placement in the menu yet but at least launching from the command line works well.

sondjata 2008-08-03 00:44
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
It seems that Grand Central Dialer or Grand Central itself uses services from Level 3 communications. Does anyone know anything about that company. I'm a bit wary of it given it has a digital rendition of the US Capitol dome on it's homepage. I'd like to avoid the NSA if at all possible.

brontide 2008-08-03 01:02
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sondjata (Post 209652)
It seems that Grand Central Dialer or Grand Central itself uses services from Level 3 communications. Does anyone know anything about that company. I'm a bit wary of it given it has a digital rendition of the US Capitol dome on it's homepage. I'd like to avoid the NSA if at all possible.
As far as I'm concerned, unless you DIY with your own encryption protocols there really isn't a way around the possible snooping of the NSA.

epage 2008-08-03 01:05
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
I'm assuming what you came across is L3 the government contractor and not Level 3 the internet and communications company. From what I can tell they are different companies. Personally I didn't notice a capitol dome on either's page.

If you are concerned about the NSA, who google goes through doesn't make much of a difference since it'll still go through the internet (most likely not encrypted) and then go through the phone system on the other end. If you are wanting to be safe, probably the only route to go is a p2p, open source, audited, encrypted VoIP system.

sondjata 2008-08-03 01:23
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Well I was more concerned about whether it was a quasi govt agency.

brontide 2008-08-03 02:11
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sondjata (Post 209659)
Well I was more concerned about whether it was a quasi govt agency.
I can honestly say that I don't believe they are a quasi govt agency and I would consider myself pretty cynical about these things.

http://www.level3.com/

vs

http://ww.l-3com.com/

sondjata 2008-08-03 02:27
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Ahhh. The reason you didn't see the US capital dome is because it's a part of the flash animation.

Anyway. GC dialer is pretty convenient seeing as how I discontinued my long distance service. This N800 is going to save me some cash!

CleverJake 2008-08-03 04:10
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
i know im late on the train, but does anyone have a spare invite?

tlacuache 2008-08-03 04:13
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
GrandCentral doesn't have a way for existing users to invite others right now. The only thing you can do is go to the site and sign up for an invite from GC itself. There's nothing anyone on this or any other forum can do for you. Sorry.

-SG

CleverJake 2008-08-03 06:16
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
oh, im sorry
I was just going off of what their site said

Quote:
GrandCentral is currently a private beta service, which means you must receive an invite from GrandCentral or a GrandCentral user to sign up. Let us know where you would like a number in the form below and we will invite you as soon as the service is publicly available.

Laughing Man 2008-08-03 17:49
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Yeah, they took our invites away. :(

CleverJake 2008-08-03 17:52
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Laame
I figured something that useful wouldnt have invites for that long
especially once google got it
GMail got swamped back in the day


wellll shoot

newbiew/Qs 2008-08-03 18:03
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
Grand Central has ended beta and should be going public soon. Don't know how affordable the service will be once it's available. I've enjoyed the beta service, which basically give me a flexible, virtual number. Supposedly, beta testers will be able to keep their numbers for free and, possibly, receive free incoming. I already have a couple of other VOIP providers, so I'm not sure that I'll use Grand Central much for outgoing. I'm hoping Grand Central's public offering supports true SIP. I'm not that impressed with GIZMO. I'd much prefer to route my Grand Central number to one of my other paid VOIP providers, which seem a little more stable than GIZMO.

phutterman 2008-08-03 20:41
Re: Grandcentral Dialer
 
...Looks like it's still beta to me...

But then again, so's gmail, isn't it?


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