Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

Anyone know if there is an updated flash player plugin for Iceweasel aka Firefox 3? I still can't play flash movies in webpages, I like watching News clips...

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

I love the debian environment. Can I try other enviroments as well?

I have some comment on the new debian. The matchbox keyboard does not help inside the debian environment. Instead I have to use the virtual keyboard and use focus. Can this be fixed?

When I am inside debian what is the root password? when using passwd to change it it asks for current password? How to obtain root privileges inside debian to install packages.

Re: Bundyo Benson Build 0.6 - Attempt #2
 

The link to the deb file doesn't work:
"The requested URL /easy-deb-chroot-0.6-2_armel.deb was not found on this server."

Edit: Now it is. Thanks.

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

I may be a bit late to the Debian party, but I just wanted to say...

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...enshot03-2.png

(yep, that's The GIMP :cool: ).

This is freakin' awesome!

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

I had installed the previous version of easy-deb-chroot, then uninstalied it, ncluding deleting the debian image file... upon re-installation of the newer version 0.6 everything goes fine except that the debian image file is not fetched / installed. Something must still be around from the previous install. Any suggestions what to look for and clean by hand?

--denis

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

Both.
Thanks

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

If you want root access in Debian, just run the 'Debian chroot' menu item in OS2008. It will not ask for a password. If you want to install software via Synaptic, use the 'Synaptic Package Manager' menu item.

The root and user passwords in Debian are the same as your OS2008 passwords. If you don't know what they are, don't try to get root in IceWM.

The Debian Image Installer just downloads and 'unzips' a big file on your memory card. It might have problems if you aren't connected to the 'Net, or you don't have enough space... Please post specific errors.

And I really don't think the open source Flash player will ever be as good as the one we have in the OS2008 browser.

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

It does ask for a password on my N810.

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

After installing the easy chroot .deb and rebooting, your tablet should not ask for root password anymore, since I added a line to sudoers that lets you type, 'sudo <command>' and it will run any command without root password.

Perhaps you have some sudo / gain root package installed that specifically enables the root password?

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

I had Rootsh installed, but I uninstalled it and rebooted. It still asks for a password. When I click enter, it closed Debian chroot.

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

In my case. I am having trouble using the keyboard in the debian ICEWM. I can't get the virtual keyboard to work. I doesn't load today. before when I use it it closes the terminal or the keyboard. I started to have this problem after I installed the new deb. The old one worked fine.

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

I had the same problem as firstohit. Just switch to matchbox/hildon and tap a text box. Leave the matchbox keyboard up in matchbox/hildon and then switch to the chroot.

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

I didn't understand your instructions. There are 3 keyboards in the virtual enviroment. Virtual from tools and the one on taskbar then there is the one with the addon.

I am inside the debian lets say ABIword how to switch to chroot?

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

Ok, sorry firstohit. Nevermind. I thought you were having a different problem. :|

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

This just happened to me too!

I was upgrading the easy chroot package on my Diablo partition.

I fixed it by:

1. uninstalling the easy chroot package
2. rebooting
3. installing the easy chroot package
4. rebooting

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

Just a note, rootsh doesn't touch the sudoers file ;)

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

Yes, it is clearly a problem with the install scripts in my package... :(

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

I experienced no problem using this but I'm using anpaza's sudser which gives me nopasswd to all things anyway :)

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

Now in debian/armel unstable:

icedtea-gcjwebplugin + openjdk-6-jre

This gives a browser java plugin based on the official opensourced java, and makes some java applications run than on the gcj/classpath based java. JOSM would especially be interesting, but I think it might work quite bad without right mouse button.

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

I've updated to the last "easy debian chroot", the keyboard works fine in icewm except the FN key which seems inactive.
I've a french N810, any idea ? (maybe just some mod in Xmodmap-debian?)

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

NVM.. didn't notice French keyboard.. I have no idea

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

@Murphy: yes, xmodmap works, you can find a thread in the Debian section of these forums with English and Italian .xmodmap files, and start from those to make a French version (and publish it if you want for other francophones).

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

As I've mentioned above, I'm using fatalsaint's english .Xmodmap file (yes, capital X) in the latest version. You can modify that to your liking. I will be honest, since I don't have an 810, I can't test this part; I only assume it is working because it runs and it gives no errors :)

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

But would someone have to re-download the image to get that?? or does the installer automatically add the lines to the IceWM startup file.. or does the scripts run Xmodmap when you launch IceWM??

If someone already has the other image, just downloads the new scripts, and run it - I don't think the Xmodmap will work without some manual work.. but correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

Since the .Xmodmap and .icewm/startup files are in the /home/user directory, not in the image file, they are no problem to update. Like I said, I would need someone with an English-keyboard N810 to test things to make sure they work beyond simply not giving any errors :)

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

http://www.fangamers.net/images/smilies/wallbash.gif I keep forgetting that dang home drive thing. I don't do this so it's hard for me to keep track.

I'm quite sure it works as long as the startup file is there; and has "#!/bin/sh" at the top of it... worked for me every time.. even in chroot. I think his problem is probably the different keyboard then.. I don't know what keyboard a "french n810" has.. whether it's azerty, qwerty, or any other odd erty :).

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

It's not just a translation problem, the FN key didn't do anything!
a => a
FN+a => a

I tried this :
and it works like an english keybord :)
EDIT: (there was no /debian/usr/share/X11/xkb !)

I'm now trying to find some signs that are on my keyboard (ê, ç, µ, §).
Any idea where to find correspondance ?

PS: french keyboard is azerty :)

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

Wow.. so Apparantly that fix works for more than just the odd keyboard behavior I had.. I shall update my original post to include it if experiencing difficulties..

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

Thanks murphy! I'm glad that someone with an N810 using the chroot image was able to tell me what was missing... That xkb copy is another cool bit to add to the next version!

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

I've finished my french .Xmodmap-debian and keyboard works even better than in OS2008 :)
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...5&postcount=32

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

Sorry if I am repeating something (tried a thread search!). How exactly is that nested x session working with IceWM here? I want to have the same thing for XFCE. I have been able to get it replacing my Hildon desktop by accident after killalling the existing desktop, but I can't for the life of me get it to exist inside of a window.

Could we get a login manager to appear in an xnest, which I believe would make choosing desktop environments (and their respective window managers) super easy? For example, Ubuntu has a default menu item for "New Login in a Window", which runs gdmflexiserver --xnest.

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

I've answered that question several times, most recently in this thread. If my answer over there isn't good enough, join in the discussion over there 'till you get it working.

Some more stuff from the Deblet project that might be interesting for Easy Debian
 

Well. I've recently added some interesting things into my installer for Deblet. First off, an installer that runs on tablet with an actual GUI for most questions and stuff (using zenity).

During the last nights I've implemented another interesting thing, which i'll just write as the steps it's done in the installer..:

* Utilities->Install Deblet (icon, woo)
* Select Deblet environment to install - it would be possible to have specific chroot environments where you could "upgrade" to bootable by apt-get install nit-env-stskeeps for instance :)
* Select Debian mirror
* Where would you like to install Deblet to?
* Simple but slow - A file on one of my FAT filesystem memory cards
* Advanced but fast (recommended) - To a partition on one of my memory cards

What's interesting is obviously the Simple but slow option :)

Next steps:

* Which MMC would you like to place the image file on? (select mmc1, mmc2)
* Do you already have a file /media/mmcX/deblet.img?
* Yes, don't create an image file
* No, please create an image file

If yes:
* How big would you like the image file to be? (choices 1024,1536,2048,3072,4096mb)

* Would you like to:
* Mount the file /media/mmcX/deblet.img as ext2
* Make a ext2 filesystem in /media/mmcX/deblet.img
* Mount the file /media/mmcX/deblet.img as ext3
* Make a ext3 filesystem in /media/mmcX/deblet.img

* Standard procedure from here on, where would you like to get Deblet packages from.. debootstrapping, installing environment..

At finish, which is the interesting part:

* Making /media/mmcX/deblet.img.linuxrc - wait, what's this? It's a boot script that boot menu (my latest patches towards fanoush's bootmenu with lbt's bootmenu.d idea, linuxrc and loopback device in /dev) can boot. It'll go in, mount the deblet.img file loopback and just start up the traditional deblet boot phase - like it was run off a partition!

* Copy in a busybox_mount (newest version that actually does loopback compared to initfs one....) to /media/mmcX. I know this is a noexec filesystem (since it's vfat)

* Set up a bootmenu.d boot item, that inserts Deblet-in-a-file on mmcblkXp1 item in bootmenu. It mounts mmcblkXp1 as vfat, without noexec, so we can run busybox_mount in deblet.img.linuxrc (linuxrc also makes sure it is mount -o remount,noexec afterwards). It also tells boot menu to load ext2/ext3 modules depending on which image type was selected

* Like with normal install, refresh_bootmenu.d, and reboot. Voila, Deblet-in-a-file.

So, how is this interesting for Easy Debian?

Well, obviously this process can have default answers so it's maybe a 1-2 step process (select debian mirror, select MMC to install to).

What's also interesting is that we can have a simple way to insert scripts in Maemo that allows for chrooted Deblet easily - both in file and partition. And if a user wants to boot into "real" Deblet with same setup, it's a matter of rebooting and using the bootmenu item that points to the same Deblet image as he's chrooting into. It being Deblet, also gives us the infrastructure to add specific packages supporting chroot environments and easy installation.

Current problems with installer:
* Restricted to vfat when it's deblet-in-a-file - and I'm not sure when booted that it's possible to access the files on the MMC "outside" the .img file
* Should also be possible to install into a directory on a ext2/ext3 partition with same way of having a two-stage linuxrc like deblet-in-a-file has it

Future ideas:

* Something alike Personal Menu in Maemo that retrieves Debian menu items and automatically has them with wrappers to run them in the chroot and show in Maemo.

Any comments are welcome.

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

Interest in the Easy Debian project has definitely waned; I'll probably do one more release of the .deb file with fixed-up scripts before the Maemo Summit, and, along with the .deb, one more version of the big image file with all the results of peoples' feedback put into it so that it will be the best install I can make. Hopefully after that, Stskeeps and co. will smoothly transition everyone over to deblet.

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

Have you considered uploading Easy-Debian to Maemo-Extras? Ok, it may not be the most polished software around, but it's not that experimental. I'm sure you'd get a lot more interest that way...

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

Well, it's not a case of "polished" so much as it isn't something you just click on in App Manager to "give it a whirl" ... You have to know what you're getting into... On the other hand, with no dependencies anymore, perhaps I should add it to Extras and let people vote with their downloads...?

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

Sounds like prudent thing to do. It can't hurt.

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

Definitely put it into the extras. I for one just got on board with it & haven't had a problem yet. Would hate to see it go away ;(

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

I don't think it's "going away" so much as merging with Deblet.. The Deblet project is making it's installer slowly allow the same kinds of options as Qole's as far as the Image File is concerned.. Qole needs to keep a package around that installs the Chroot scripts though.. those are vital.

Also need some way for Qole to add the 1 required debian script (xpice) into deblet where ever it gets installed to.. (maybe prompt the user, qole?).

Qole's easy debian is unbelievably useful.. if anything is lacking in the debian side I can always boot into Diablo; and fireup debian over the top of it.. and just use maemo for the missing pieces. But at the same time.. maintaining two different debian images seems a little redundant.

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian For Everyone! OpenOffice, Firefox 3, Java, AbiWord, IceWM,
 

I have been tested Gnome with both deblet and easy-debian (using ext2 partitions)

When i was using Gnome Deblet i had 90-110 mb swap, and it kept lagging and rebooting all the time. But with Easy Debian I was able to use Gnome and KDE 4.1 without loosing my mind. And i did not even have a SWAP. Why? Does anybody know why easy debian is so much faster?