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Reggie 2008-07-31 12:20

Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
I just finished upgrading the forums to the latest version to bring in security fixes as well as enhancements. This is a major upgrade so I would appreciate that you all report any problems you encounter in the forums.

Also, with the help of andrewfblack (thanks andrew!), a new Minimalistic theme has been added which makes it easy to browse the forums on a mobile device. It's not perfect but the common features of the forums are working well. Report any problems you encounter on the new theme as well.

Thanks..

brontide 2008-07-31 13:06

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
A few issues I see with the new minimalistic version.
  • No Thanks button
  • No advanced edit / Quote
  • The main page is missing the "New Posts" search hiding under quick links
  • No way to see, at a glace, what threads you have posted on

The theme seems like a huge advance in terms of using the forum on the NIT, but without these items it's hard for me to use it on a regular basis.

tso 2008-07-31 13:16

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
looks quite impressive, altho i seem to be missing a reply/quote button...

oh and maybe a thanks button :P

err, kinda redundant ;)

Stout 2008-07-31 13:17

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
love it!
back to normal view to thank you now...)-

tso 2008-07-31 13:25

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
just noticed that on the "new posts" page, the link to the threads go all the way over to the post count. this makes it had to drag to scroll as what looks like empty space is really a link to a page...

hmm, also just found that the post count number takes one to the first unread post in a thread. now if the background of that area could maybe change if one have posted in a thread it would cover my minimum needs.

sjgadsby 2008-07-31 13:29

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
I like the new thread tagging feature. Thanks, Reggie!

Reggie 2008-07-31 14:12

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 208945)
hmm, also just found that the post count number takes one to the first unread post in a thread. now if the background of that area could maybe change if one have posted in a thread it would cover my minimum needs.

Yes, clicking on the post count will go to the first unread post, while clicking on the thread title will go to the first page.

Benson 2008-07-31 14:45

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
The wiki seems to be broken, and as Tso pointed out, the thread title links are full-width. Also, the pagenav links don't fill the entire td, making them a little tricky to click on.

I can fix the latter, though, with:
Code:

.pagenav td a { display: table-cell !IMPORTANT; width: 30px !IMPORTANT; height: 100% !IMPORTANT; vertical-align: center !IMPORTANT; text-align: center !IMPORTANT;}
But I know that's not doing it right, and I really didn't understand what I was doing when I wrote that.

Benson 2008-07-31 14:47

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Oh, and I can't edit my post to mention that I do like it! And I can't thank you either... Oh, well, back to Classic for such rare tasks. ;)

TA-t3 2008-07-31 14:47

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Ah yeah, I also just noticed that the wiki is borken (some php error), as Benson reported.

Reggie 2008-07-31 14:48

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Good catch on the wiki. It's up now.

qwerty12 2008-07-31 15:06

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
I think the N810 V2 theme needs to have it's profile section updated.

Classic:
http://i35.tinypic.com/jihnpz.png

N810 V2:
http://i33.tinypic.com/2dmf2w1.png

sjgadsby 2008-07-31 15:11

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 208992)
I think the N810 V2 theme needs to have it's profile section updated.

Yep. The "Thanks!" information is missing.

andrewfblack 2008-07-31 16:25

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
I want to thank reggie for giving me credit on this we both worked hard on it. I will talk to reggie about adding thanks features and such, i knew there would be some problems since there was just the two of us testing it. But i would say it runs faster on my tablet then any of the other templates so far. Thanks again Andrew

andrewfblack 2008-07-31 16:28

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Just found a problem of my own wiki link does work right.

iamthewalrus 2008-07-31 17:28

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Looks great. One thing I miss though is 'New Posts'. I prefer that to browsing through individual forums. Talking of which ..one thing that has always bugged me about 'New Posts' is the search-spam block preventing me from bookmarking the link. Couldn't some kind caching make this block unnecessary?<edit> hmm... bookmarking seems to work work now </edit>

andrewfblack 2008-07-31 17:37

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iamthewalrus (Post 209042)
Looks great. One thing I miss though is 'New Posts'. I prefer that to browsing through individual forums. Talking of which ..one thing that has always bugged me about 'New Posts' is the search-spam block preventing me from bookmarking the link. Couldn't some kind caching make this block unnecessary?

The New Post link is under the Quick Links I was trying to keep as little on the main layout as possible.

fpp 2008-07-31 21:32

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
This new theme is quite good and likeable - maybe no quite as fast as the original "mobile", but certainly less barebones and very usable on the tablets. Nice job !

tso 2008-07-31 23:02

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewfblack (Post 209045)
The New Post link is under the Quick Links I was trying to keep as little on the main layout as possible.

maybe one should put a arrow or something there to indicate that its a drop down menu?

tso 2008-08-01 03:03

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
two more.

1. the quick reply box is a bit small and seems to be missing a scroll bar.

2. the "last post by" under the tgread title shows the nick of the thread starter.

iamthewalrus 2008-08-01 08:12

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
A couple more things I noticed:

The topic-title-links cause me to click by accident when scrolling through them, because the link is wider then the actual title. I think it should be visible which pixels are a link and which aren't, and leave some space horzontally for scrolling by dragging the screen.

I think some vertical space in the topic lists can be saved while still keeping the links finger friendly.

There are now two links per topic to go to the last reply: the arrow-icon and the number of replies. You could save some space by leaving out the arrow, and that would also minimize risk of clicking that instead of the OP.

The italics of the quotes makes them less readable. I think color/backgroundcolor and maybe some kind of quote marks would be enough to indicate that it is a quote.

Benson 2008-08-01 11:49

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
You're gonna think we really hate this theme, but we honestly don't! One more nitpick: Attached images are displayed at some tiny (portrait-friendly!) size; that's good, but I can't find any way to view one fullsize on the N800. I know this is partly due to Microb's deficiencies in the context menu, but still, could the image be/be captioned with a link to the image?

tso 2008-08-01 13:06

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
constructive critisism is a sign of love, no ;)

jhford 2008-08-01 13:10

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
When I'm on ITT using my tablet and select any style other than Classic from Quick Style Chooser, it automatically reverts to Classic.
Any help is appreciated.

brontide 2008-08-01 13:47

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jhford (Post 209306)
When I'm on ITT using my tablet and select any style other than Classic from Quick Style Chooser, it automatically reverts to Classic.
Any help is appreciated.

Sounds like a cookie problem.

Benson 2008-08-01 13:50

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jhford (Post 209306)
When I'm on ITT using my tablet and select any style other than Classic from Quick Style Chooser, it automatically reverts to Classic.
Any help is appreciated.

You have a greasemonkey script that forces Classic?

andrewfblack 2008-08-01 14:18

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 209291)
You're gonna think we really hate this theme, but we honestly don't! One more nitpick: Attached images are displayed at some tiny (portrait-friendly!) size; that's good, but I can't find any way to view one fullsize on the N800. I know this is partly due to Microb's deficiencies in the context menu, but still, could the image be/be captioned with a link to the image?

Its cool if you didn't like it at all I know you would suggest how to fix it because you wouldn't care. Alot of the problems are things that could not be seen until it was tested on a full scale.

gemniii42 2008-08-01 14:22

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Except for the thanks button it looks good.
[button]thanks[/button]
/edit
It'd be nice if we could set our default veersion to classic.

Reggie 2008-08-01 14:47

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 208992)
I think the N810 V2 theme needs to have it's profile section updated.

Done.

I'm monitoring this thread so changes will be done in small increments.

Thanks all!

jhford 2008-08-01 15:38

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 209317)
You have a greasemonkey script that forces Classic?

Ah-ha. That was it. Very smart. Thanks..

TA-t3 2008-08-01 16:11

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Reggie,

I can't download any attachments anymore, they have Content-type unknown/unknown (or possibly no content-type), which the firewall over here won't let through.

Reggie 2008-08-01 17:12

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 209350)
Reggie,

I can't download any attachments anymore, they have Content-type unknown/unknown (or possibly no content-type), which the firewall over here won't let through.

Can you give the thread you are having problems with?

TA-t3 2008-08-10 19:44

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Sorry for replying late - I was on a sudden 1 week vacation.
My download problem seems to be on every attachment, I first noticed it in this post:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...86&postcount=1
when trying to download the attachment:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...6&d=1217388119

I can't download it through a firewall which checks for Content-Type, but I can download it if I go through a proxy which doesn't check for this. Using curl -I to check the http header (via that proxy) shows this:
Code:

Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:40:08 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.39 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635.SR1.2 mod_ssl/2.8.30 OpenSSL/0.9.8b PHP-CGI/0.1b
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Cache-control: max-age=31536000, private
Content-disposition: attachment; filename="SpeedTweak-0.0.3-1_all.deb"
ETag: "2206"
Expires: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:40:31 GMT
Vary: User-Agent
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.2.4
X-UA-Compatible: IE=7
Last-Modified: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:21:36 GMT
Content-Length: 1734
Connection: close
Content-Type: unknown/unknown

What the firewall blocks on is Content-Type: unknown/unknown
I believe this used to be x-debian-package or something like it, before.

GeneralAntilles 2008-08-10 19:55

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
The theme is nice, but it really isn't useful without most of the same information that the regular theme contains.

tso 2008-08-10 20:50

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
yep, right now mobile does a better job then minimalist, even with bugs like the small table width in the subscribed threads list...

andrewfblack 2008-08-11 19:10

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 212061)
The theme is nice, but it really isn't useful without most of the same information that the regular theme contains.

It has all the features Reggie wanted me to add to it, it is suppose to be a lite version and not have all the features mainly for reading the forums and searching, but if Reggie wants them added I can do it.

nikolajhendel 2008-08-11 19:13

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
I think the theme is pretty nice - only downside is that it doesn't jump to last read position when opening a thread.

Reggie 2008-08-11 19:22

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nikolajhendel (Post 212450)
I think the theme is pretty nice - only downside is that it doesn't jump to last read position when opening a thread.

You have to click on the the number of comments so it would do that.

andrewfblack 2008-08-11 19:24

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reggie (Post 212456)
You have to click on the the number of comments so it would do that.

Its the same as regular theme.

GeneralAntilles 2008-08-11 19:56

Re: Forum upgrade and new minimalistic theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewfblack (Post 212448)
It has all the features Reggie wanted me to add to it, it is suppose to be a lite version and not have all the features mainly for reading the forums and searching, but if Reggie wants them added I can do it.

Unfortunately this limited set makes it unusably "minimalist". I would like to use the theme, but without the same (or at least a very close) feature set to the default themes, I can't.


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