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doctorbri 2008-08-02 23:20

[Canola] Pandora support?
 
I searched and couldn't find anything concerning pandora.com for Canola. Has there been any thoughts/discussion on a pandora plugin?

CleverJake 2008-08-03 20:00

Re: Pandora support?
 
There is a Last.FM pluggin, with streaming radio enabled
I prefer it anyways, otherwise...nope
as far as I am aware

handful 2008-08-07 01:59

Re: Pandora support?
 
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Hi Doctor, unfortunately we are unable to do that here in Brazil : / Pandora is forbiden for us so if anyone is interested in doing so, we can help in the Canola IRC channel and via list.

Attached the website message : /

Br

Marcelo

Ps : as said by jake : Last.fm works more or less the same way.. by similar artists.

dfinch 2008-08-07 02:05

Re: Pandora support?
 
I use Pandora through the built in browser and it works fine. What will Canola add to Pandora that is missing with the browser?

BTW, Pandora works on a different principal to LastFM and I prefer the results especially after a lengthy session. Pandora seems to remain more true to the original choice compared with LastFM.

Pain 2008-08-08 00:06

Re: Pandora support?
 
I don't see how a browser based application would work in Canola anyway. The built in OS2008 browser works with Pandora, although it does ask if you want to abort a script that is taking too long the first time it loads: Just say NO!
...and wait some more.

I like both LastFM and Pandora for a variety, but I have to give the edge to Pandora even though it is sort of too heavy on the browser and has some pauses at times. Depending on the type of music your looking for, one can be better then the other as far as remaining true to the original choice. They both certainly do benefit from a lot of feedback training. The infinite custom stations of Pandora do seem better because they are independent of previous history so past choices do not influence the choices on different stations. I don't really know of a way to make more than one station on LastFM unless you have multiple accounts?

doctorbri 2008-08-08 23:33

Re: Pandora support?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handful (Post 211034)
unfortunately we are unable to do that here in Brazil : / Pandora is forbiden for us

I forgot about this :(


I asked because I agree with dfinch and Pain, Pandora is better than Last.fm. I use the web-flash interface, but interaction with the interface is obviously very delayed. I saw a demo of Logitech's squeezebox the other day and didn't know if direct control to Pandora was available to the public, or by contract only (most likely the latter).

CleverJake 2008-08-09 06:29

Re: Pandora support?
 
It is possible to do it, I just doubt anyone would
a. port it to the n800
b. port THAT into canola

josiahg777 2008-08-10 19:55

Re: Pandora support?
 
Just my 0.2 but this doesn't appear possible at the moment... Pandora doesn't appear offer a streaming API the way last.fm does because they make most of their money from ad-revenue. So even the desktop players out there for pandora don't do anything except load the swf file from pandora's website.

So even if the canola developers were to do it this way, it would still suffer from the same flash slowness that it does in the browser.

handful 2008-08-11 09:45

Re: Pandora support?
 
Quote:

I use Pandora through the built in browser and it works fine. What will Canola add to Pandora that is missing with the browser?
I think you missed the point :) Canola does not add to youtube, or last.fm browse experiences, but using a dedicated client and not a browser based section gives you a integrated experience inside an application you already have. Of course not everyone needs this, but is really understandable that the users here want Pandora on canola if they are pandora users.

The thing is all about API. if there is an web based api it can be done fairly easy.

So josiagh is right, just downloading swfs is not good enough.

Br

Marcelo

dfinch 2008-08-11 21:14

Re: Pandora support?
 
I do love the Canola interface but I must admit that I more frequently use the inbuilt meda player as it gets me to the music a little more quickly.

However, if I am showing off the ITT (especially to iPod owners) I always bring up Canola and browse that album art.

I do have a question. A small number of my album covers are incorrect (about 10 of 100). They were found from local folders and via the internet (automatically by Canola). Is there a way to swap the ones that are incorrect? Thanks.

handful 2008-08-12 00:32

Re: Pandora support?
 
Dfinch : if you go to that 3-covers views, click on the cover it will slide to the right and show you the options that it got from all sources.

This is the way today. We were implemeting a "pick" from file as well, but its not on beta9 . If this doesn't help you can try placing the cover in the folders, and not marking the weboptions.. so it will only get the correct one in the cover. If even with that some other file appears, then something is really wrong and we would like to know more to be able to reproduce the bug and kill it :)


*I understand what you said, but the same way you have other habits, I can say that some people prefer the Canola UI (or others like the youamp / mediabox) etc. it's the old "it works for some not for all". So in this point is where people see the need to have direct interfaces to their favorite services :))


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