Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Will a simple "No" suffice?

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

I've done a compilation of changelogs and this is the result.
From diablo 23-14 image, installing the 30-2 update (using dist-upgrade)

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Based on the lame "NB#" practice, I've sent this rant off to -developers.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

As a software developer myself, in a company using both internal as well as external changelogs and bug tracking systems, I can only agree with GA. I'm wondering what kind of tools the Nokia developers are using? I mean, there's no need for Star Trek technology to create useful changelogs. Even such simple, standard tools as emacs and xemacs have ctrl-x 4-a or meta-x add-changelog-entry, which allows for _EASY_ insertion of things like:
From such logs it's easy to collect summary changelogs. And it costs nothing to add a little text, in addition to any bugtracking numbers (_both_ should be there, any developer at our company who fails to follow this practice gets a scolding.)

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Hmm....

That's interesting.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

This is interesting. . . . Does Nokia, perhaps, owe us some code?

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

If there ever was a time to have used an NB#... I bet code was taken from 0xffff... I think I've still got the post ssu initfs, I'll upload the usbflasher in question. Then someone can sue the a-holes.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

When you sue someone for breaking the GPL, it is to make them stop distributing code which breaks the GPL. That's what you sue for, there's no monetary issues involved as the GPL'ed code is free as in beer. IANAL, but check out all those earlier cases - it's always about getting the offending distributor to stop what they're doing and do something else instead (that is, something legal). Which it appears Nokia has already done, so there's nothing to sue for anymore.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

****. I'd like to see them sued so that they hopefully would have turned over the usbflasher code :/

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

The Gnu Public License (GPL) allows you to use copyright work (the GPL'ed code) as long as you follow the license.. if you don't follow it, you lose the right to use the copyrighted work (the GPL'ed code). That's all really.. they now stopped distributing code which included GPL'ed code, so they're allowed to keep the rest closed. (They could instead have chosen to open up and continue using GPL'ed code, but they chose the other way.)

Of course, all this closed code from Nokia is not to their advantage IMO. Some of it is due to other vendors (TI stuff etc), but what about e.g. that original email application? For example. (Bits were open, but not enough to use for coders.)