Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Rrrrright, that explains this 37 pages thread...

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Right after booting the browser feels snappier, but after some time it goes slower and slower (of course this is my subjective impression, so it could be wrong).
I suspect that browserd is to blame and quitting the browser and restarting browserd should fix it for a while.
I couldn't test my "fix" since the tablet spontaneusly reboots itself :(

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

OK, I'm one of those "didn't notice any problems until I checked the control panel and saw 23-14" people. My application manager no longer shows the new upgrade available.

I didn't actually see the upgrade until today, and I upgraded before reading the thread. I did a backup, and restored from backup immediately after upgrading (which no one has mentioned. Was that a good idea? bad idea?)

Nothing seems to be not working. Internet is fine. All my applications were still there. Tablet is neither reboot-looping nor whistling nor smoking nor attempting world domination.

My question is: is there any harm in just waiting until the NEXT update and seeing what happens when I try to update through the application manager at that time?

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Why, exactly, did you think you needed to restore the backup?

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

I'm sure I'll get zapped for not searching, so if you're that kind of person, read no further. But since we're talking about updates, does this seem normal: while many updates do seem to be arriving via the [!], and while updates also show up when I go to App Manager and refresh updates, some have not been showing up unless I go to edit the repository, then click OK without changing any repository details, and then closing the catalog management window. For example, this occurred yesterday when TrueJournals said that a new version of pyRdesktop had been pushed through to Maemo Extras.

Any thoughts?

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

The repositories only refresh automatically once every 24 hours. . . . There's no need to edit the catalog to force an update, there's a whole button just for that on the toolbar.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

My repositories refresh every 60 minutes. :p Gconf-editor FTW! (It's stored in /apps/hildon/update-notifier/check_interval.)

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Because I believe I restored the backup after the last manual flashing. (I could be misremembering, or remembering back to the (multiple) times when I tried to upgrade to 2008 in the first place and perhaps needed it...)

So, if restoring the back up negated the upgrade (if that's what happened), or whether for some other reason I am 30.2-less, is it reasonable to expect that if I just wait for the next automatic update, I can bypass this 30.2 and just jump on the train at the next stop? (... and not restore the backup next time! :o)

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Sorry, I guess I was unclear. I did use the button, and the update didn't appear (even though the app's author said it had been in Maemo Extras for a couple hours). But then when I fake edited the repository, TaDa!, it appeared. That was the mystery.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

So you are to blame for the repeated failures of maemo.org to cope with the traffic!
:D

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

i think i have mine edited for something like 3 hours.

but it only updates if it triggers while wifi is active, or you happen to have "browse installable" or "check for updates" open.

or at least, thats what experience is telling me...

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Searched, can't find. Ever since the diablo update, I've lost my pageupdown, i.e. the ability to jump down a whole screen's worth with one press of the dpad. This isn't as bad as it could be, as pressing the dpad no longer yields jumps from link to link, but rather serves to progress the page upward or downward by small increments. This is an improvement over the original link-jumping, but I miss my pageupdown.

When I tried to uninstall via app manager to reinstall, I got Unable to Uninstall. So I went to exterm. Here's what I got:

What's going on here?

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

here is the pageupdown...

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Thanks, but to be clear: I have pageupdown and have it installed. But it just stopped working after the ssu update. When I try to uninstall it via xterm, I can't (see log above). When I try to reinstall it, I can't (see log again).

Sorry to make you guys go through the log, but it's short and would be much appreciated!

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

ah, my bad. i keep forgetting that ended up reflashing and applying the ssu to a clean system...

apt-get remove -f microb-pageupdown worth a shot?

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

For reference, I've uploaded the original diablo post ssu platformHTMLBindings.xml here:

http://pastebin.com/m3c4ea0cb

I'd recommend using that one to replace whatever weird mix you have at the moment.

As root try this:
dpkg --remove --force-all microb-pageupdown

I have a feeling you will still get errors so do this:
rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/microb-pageupdown.postinst
rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/microb-pageupdown.preinst
rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/microb-pageupdown.prerm
dpkg --remove --force-all microb-pageupdown

After that the package should remove. I'd recommend restoring platformHTMLBindings.xml and maybe deleting /home/user/.mozilla/microb/prefs.js and then trying to reinstall again.

EDIT: Just realised, reinstalling won't work, the up/down behaviour in post ssu microb has changed, maybe timeless as the author will update? I don't have the time :/

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Thanks for the info, q12. Strange the no one else complained of losing pageupdown...Was I the only one addicted to it??

At least the post ssu microb has abandoned link-by-link scrolling.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

or maybe just the only user that didnt end up doing a full reflash...

and yes the new default scroll is ok. im torn between using it and pageupdown...

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Yeah, just hold the up/down arrow and it will scroll the page. Gets the job done.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Wait. If I had done a full reflash after this ssu update was released, I would be able to have my pageupdown? I thought qwerty12 just said that this won't work, because "the up/down behaviour in post ssu microb has changed," so the author of pageupdown (or someone else) will have to modify it. ???

Thanks for the advice, Bundyo. Say, since you're so helpful, can you tell me, how do I make phone calls on this phone? Is this better than the iTouch? What is "chinook"? What is a "respository"? How come the email program sucks? Do you know of a good ebook reader? Is there PIM capabilities on this thing? How do I hook it up to my college's LAN? What's a good note taking app? And, finally, CAN YOU PLEEEEZZZZZZ GIMMMMEEEEE A GRAND CENTRAL INVITE???????!!!!!???????

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Will a simple "No" suffice?

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

I've done a compilation of changelogs and this is the result.
From diablo 23-14 image, installing the 30-2 update (using dist-upgrade)

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Based on the lame "NB#" practice, I've sent this rant off to -developers.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

As a software developer myself, in a company using both internal as well as external changelogs and bug tracking systems, I can only agree with GA. I'm wondering what kind of tools the Nokia developers are using? I mean, there's no need for Star Trek technology to create useful changelogs. Even such simple, standard tools as emacs and xemacs have ctrl-x 4-a or meta-x add-changelog-entry, which allows for _EASY_ insertion of things like:
From such logs it's easy to collect summary changelogs. And it costs nothing to add a little text, in addition to any bugtracking numbers (_both_ should be there, any developer at our company who fails to follow this practice gets a scolding.)

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Hmm....

That's interesting.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

This is interesting. . . . Does Nokia, perhaps, owe us some code?

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

If there ever was a time to have used an NB#... I bet code was taken from 0xffff... I think I've still got the post ssu initfs, I'll upload the usbflasher in question. Then someone can sue the a-holes.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

When you sue someone for breaking the GPL, it is to make them stop distributing code which breaks the GPL. That's what you sue for, there's no monetary issues involved as the GPL'ed code is free as in beer. IANAL, but check out all those earlier cases - it's always about getting the offending distributor to stop what they're doing and do something else instead (that is, something legal). Which it appears Nokia has already done, so there's nothing to sue for anymore.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

****. I'd like to see them sued so that they hopefully would have turned over the usbflasher code :/

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

The Gnu Public License (GPL) allows you to use copyright work (the GPL'ed code) as long as you follow the license.. if you don't follow it, you lose the right to use the copyrighted work (the GPL'ed code). That's all really.. they now stopped distributing code which included GPL'ed code, so they're allowed to keep the rest closed. (They could instead have chosen to open up and continue using GPL'ed code, but they chose the other way.)

Of course, all this closed code from Nokia is not to their advantage IMO. Some of it is due to other vendors (TI stuff etc), but what about e.g. that original email application? For example. (Bits were open, but not enough to use for coders.)

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

well i dont know about you guys, but i did the most recent update via SSU and my browser locks up continuously. am i doing something wrong? im about to reflash back to the pre-update software. 30-2 is killing me. im downgrading back to 23-14 until i can figure this out. anyone else having an issue?

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=23132

bun

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

fair enough, but it said it improves browser speed. mine just crashes the browser over and over again. i flashed back to the old software and its working as it should. so much for that.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

What exactly do you mean by "locks up" and "crashes"?

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

if i load a webpage and click a link, it hangs for a minute or then says it cant load cuz its not responding. then the browser turns all white and wont let me close it. sometimes i have to power it off to get it back up. i went back to the software before that and the problem went away.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

I opened bug 3504 for that (maybe it's a different issue), unfortunately I couldn't find a way to reproduce it at will.
Sometimes it helps restarting browserd ("/etc/init.d/tablet-browser-daemon restart" as root).

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

thats what my browser says at the top when it was all locked up and frozen

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

Maybe it's bug 3627
though it didn't lock up in my case.
Edit: it did. Right after posting this message (with 2 more browser windows open) browserd was taking 99% cpu and the browser appeared to be stuck. Restarting browserd "solved" the problem.
Edit2: actually it didn't really solve it until I reastarted the browser as well.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

see....well what could be the fix? i wont upgrade
till i know how to stop it from locking up.

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 

so anyone figure out how to solve the problem? or is it just a limited number of people experiencing the browser locking up issue?