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flareup 2008-08-12 08:38

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
all very smooth for me. Update icon flashed, installed from app manager, rebooted and works. browser seems a little quicker and now scrolls with 'd' pad, whereas before with the little 'd' pad deb it still only jumped down the page by hyperlinks. so, all good here!

free 2008-08-12 09:04

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
How to know if the new release is installed, as root:
osso-product-info
=>
OSSO_PRODUCT_HARDWARE='RX-34'
OSSO_PRODUCT_NAME='N800'
OSSO_PRODUCT_FULL_NAME='Nokia N800 Internet Tablet'
OSSO_PRODUCT_RELEASE_NAME='OS 2008'
OSSO_PRODUCT_RELEASE_FULL_NAME='Internet Tablet OS: maemo Linux based OS2008'
OSSO_PRODUCT_RELEASE_VERSION='4.2008.30-2'
OSSO_PRODUCT_WLAN_CHANNEL='ETSI/EU'
OSSO_PRODUCT_KEYBOARD='<unknown>'
OSSO_PRODUCT_REGION='<unknown>'
OSSO_PRODUCT_SHORT_NAME='Nokia N800'
OSSO_VERSION='RX-34+RX-44+RX-48_DIABLO_4.2008.30-2_PR_MR0'


Remove/Comment chinook entries before upgrading. At least for me it solved some conflicts.

Another way of freeing space is having a look at the biggest installed packages:
Code:

dpkg-query -W -f='${Installed-Size} ${Package} ${Status}\n' | grep installed | sort -n
The size needed.. good question. From my earlier post:

Quote:

Need to get 14,4MB of archives.
After unpacking 28,7kB disk space will be freed.
So you will need 14.4MB to download the .deb which will then be preinsted, unpacked, postinsted and then the old files not existing anymore will be removed. In the end, you gain 28.7Kb.

Probably a preinst script is puting the tablet in a non-working state, then it's unpacked and it fails if not enough size, which is normal. But then you are in a non-working state...
Could also be a postrm script from the older version which is called before the new preinst

I upgraded through ssh and got disconnected when icd2 restarted. I was a bit scared but ssh reconnected by itself a minute after.

Karel Jansens 2008-08-12 09:17

Re: New Update (4.2008.30-2) Help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 212572)
What software company does? Personally, I've been ****ed over by more Apple updates than I can remember, and I know plenty of Windows users suffer greatly with SP releases.

Heck, the much-lauded Ubuntu can't even manage a decent upgrade half the time.

Besides, it seems to be going pretty well considering that it's the first ever SSU update.

I had no out-of-space error, I don't boot from card and the only software on my system has been installed from the repositories.

Nevertheless, I now have a nit that has a b0rked upgrade stuck in its bowels, which it refuses to remove.

I don't use Apple, I don't upgrade Windows and Ubuntu has never stuck me in a rut like this.

Karel Jansens 2008-08-12 09:46

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thaibill (Post 212693)
What's the fix for this? I experienced the same results as Howie_it.

TIA,

thaibill

Join the club. I'm sure Nokia's response will be a deafening silence, as <100% of users are experiencing this "feature".

Check the info box in Application Mangler to see what that piece of **** software thinks the problem is. Mine says it needs ttf-bitstream-vera, a package that is not installed and I cannot find an installable version of.

Do you want me to reserve you a Pandora in september?

free 2008-08-12 09:53

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
What should be the repository list now?

Trying to install perl, I'm a bit lost..

Quote:

apt-get install perl
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
perl: Depends: perl-base (= 5.8.3-3osso7) but 5.8.3-3osso9 is to be installed
E: Broken packages

apt-cache policy perl perl-base
perl:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 5.8.3-3osso7
Version table:
5.8.3-3osso7 0
500 http://repository.maemo.org chinook/free Packages
perl-base:
Installed: 5.8.3-3osso9
Candidate: 5.8.3-3osso9
Version table:
*** 5.8.3-3osso9 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
5.8.3-3osso7 0
500 http://repository.maemo.org chinook/free Packages
So the installed version of perl-base (which comes from?? no idea) is incompatible with the only version of perl that I'm able to find (from chinook).
Should I go back to chinook's perl.

This is a general question, which are the repositories to put in this bloody sources.list and which one especially to solve this problem?

I'm also looking for package python by the way. Not python2.5, python.

?

lilith 2008-08-12 09:55

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thaibill (Post 212693)
What's the fix for this? I experienced the same results as Howie_it.

TIA,

thaibill

I also experienced something similar: due to lack of some important packages for the update (see my post before) update manager simply installed all the .debs without reflashing the tablet or rebooting. It did not prompt any error message on my screen, and for a few hours I was totally convinced of having updated. I could see the error messages in the configuration phase of osso-software-version only when I tried to manually run
Code:

apt-get install osso-software-version-unlocked
from the command line (apologies, I don't have a screenshot of the error message :( )

As I wrote previously, the missing packages could not be installed again using apt-get and so I ended up in reflashing the tablet and then successfully running the update.

qwerty12 2008-08-12 10:09

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by free (Post 212728)
What should be the repository list now?

Trying to install perl, I'm a bit lost..



So the installed version of perl-base (which comes from?? no idea) is incompatible with the only version of perl that I'm able to find (from chinook).
Should I go back to chinook's perl.

This is a general question, which are the repositories to put in this bloody sources.list and which one especially to solve this problem?

I'm also looking for package python by the way. Not python2.5, python.

?

Sounds like you want to add the diablo sdk repo instead:...

Details:
Catalogue Name: Maemo Diablo
Web address: http://repository.maemo.org/
Distribution: diablo
Components: sdk/free tools/free sdk/non-free tools/non-free

Or (not tested), these lines in your sources.list[.d]:
deb http://repository.maemo.org/ diablo/sdk free non-free
deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/ diablo/sdk free
deb http://repository.maemo.org/ diablo/tools free non-free
deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/ diablo/tools free

Karel Jansens 2008-08-12 10:15

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lilith (Post 212729)
I also experienced something similar: due to lack of some important packages for the update (see my post before) update manager simply installed all the .debs without reflashing the tablet or rebooting. It did not prompt any error message on my screen, and for a few hours I was totally convinced of having updated. I could see the error messages in the configuration phase of osso-software-version only when I tried to manually run
Code:

apt-get install osso-software-version-unlocked
from the command line (apologies, I don't have a screenshot of the error message :( )

As I wrote previously, the missing packages could not be installed again using apt-get and so I ended up in reflashing the tablet and then successfully running the update.

I'd rather be f*cked sideways up the yazoo by a raging rhino than reflash this f*cking brick yet again.

All this mess because Nokia's drones have the intellectual capacity of a stool sample?

free 2008-08-12 10:21

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Thanks a lot qwerty12!
I saw this sdk but was not sure that it's safe to use is on the device directly.

So, in case people are also looking for a repository list, here it is (included maemo community, not nokia-official):

Quote:

deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/ diablo user
deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/ diablo user
deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/updates/diablo-1/ ./
deb http://repository.maemo.org/ diablo sdk/free tools/free sdk/non-free tools/non-free
deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/ diablo/sdk free
deb http://repository.maemo.org/ diablo/tools free non-free
deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/ diablo/tools free
Use at your own risks :)

pycage 2008-08-12 10:39

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 212732)
I'd rather be f*cked sideways up the yazoo by a raging rhino than reflash this f*cking brick yet again.

For this kind of stuff you should ask at your local zoo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 212732)
All this mess because Nokia's drones have the intellectual capacity of a stool sample?

Well, this is certainly significantly higher than the average intellectual capacity in this industry. This kind of SSU update is revolutionary for consumer electronics, and Nokia did not do it too badly, IMHO. It's hard to please everyone and of course the community could've implemented it better, but it's a good start.

Just try again, maybe it'll work. Oh yeah you'd have to reflash, but the rhino is waiting for you... :)

It would be interesting to see what percentage of users got trouble with the SSU update. A hand full is surely not anywhere near 100%.

luca 2008-08-12 11:05

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
It worked here. I got scared when the screen went off and the blue led started flashing, but after a while the tablet rebooted successfully.
I have various 3rd party packages installed, but I removed the stock video and photos when I flashed diablo, so I had no space issues.
Now, I cannot tell if the upgrade was worth something or not ....

whc 2008-08-12 11:27

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Very nice, faster overall browsing, hope the small bugs is fixed...

What exactly does the update do?

seiichiro0185 2008-08-12 12:18

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Just for the record, for me the update worked perfectly. Install via app-manager, reboot, works. Thats how an update should be! btw. I don't have anything of the "advanced" stuff like bootmenu/SDboot/rotation installed at the moment.

Anyone found a detailed changelog of what got fixed yet (if something like this even exists)?

cybernut 2008-08-12 12:57

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
I still have problems getting the boot from SD card to work. I went to Penguinbait's site but when I click on Bootmenu installer ( a deb file) my 800 just says "connecting" (it's been over a half hour now) and nothing else but funny characters on the screen. I think it should bring up the application manager??? and then I just open it. Is there something wrong with the site or am I doing something wrong?

TIA

C

brontide 2008-08-12 12:59

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Browser: Doesn't seem much faster to me. Hotkeys are still messed up

Modest: Now it doesn't crash!... but I've stopped getting new mail notification, it seems to get stuck receiving and will never let me know that I have new mail unless I do a killall modest and then re-open the mail app

On screen keyboard is now screwed up on my bosses brand new n810 ( flash to Diablo, immediately upgraded to 4.2008.30-2, and installed a few extras items ).

ARGHHHHHH

Mara 2008-08-12 13:01

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 212739)
It would be interesting to see what percentage of users got trouble with the SSU update. A hand full is surely not anywhere near 100%.

Maybe add a poll? But for that to work all users that have upgraded should respond, not just only the ones that did run into trouble. :rolleyes:

And to add my experience I did not have any problems with this SSU update. In fact I have done several SSU updates already since the Diablo betas were around, and never had a problem. The people who did run into trouble just make themselves heard very well, and people who didn't likely just not bother to reply in this thread.

tolou 2008-08-12 13:02

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Anyone who can direct me how to get hold of the initfs 2008-29 for N800(RX-34)?
My OS2008 upgrade supposedly went OK but as the bootmenu was erased I reflashed into old version(by mistake) to retreive my bootmenu.

I´m running on initfs 2008-24 now
Code:

cat /mnt/initfs/etc/initfs_version
It seems to work anyway, but I´m unsure to proceed like this.

terrencegf 2008-08-12 13:07

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Unfortunately, I'm also in the camp of "partially successful update". I was able to force a full update from xterm. It seemed to install a bunch of debs. Unfortunately, I had to use the "unlocked" version of the osso-software-version update, and now my tablet shows 4.2008.23-14 when I run "osso-product-info". I have tried disabling/re-enabling various repositories to try to re-install the non-unlocked version of osso-software-version, but I get the following:

Code:

#apt-get install osso-software-version-rx34
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree.
Reading state information... Done
Package osso-software-version-rx34 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
  osso-software-version-unlocked
E: Package osso-software-version-rx34 has no installation candidate

Bummer.

bunanson 2008-08-12 13:08

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 212768)
... The people who did run into trouble just make themselves heard very well, and people who didn't likely just not bother to reply in this thread.

Maybe. I am a good boy. I DID post that I have no problem :-)

bun

Wes Doobner 2008-08-12 13:14

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Update went well for me. d-pad scrolling now works great and zooming in the browser is much better. Browser seems a tad faster.

Karel Jansens 2008-08-12 13:18

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 212768)
Maybe add a poll? But for that to work all users that have upgraded should respond, not just only the ones that did run into trouble. :rolleyes:

And to add my experience I did not have any problems with this SSU update. In fact I have done several SSU updates already since the Diablo betas were around, and never had a problem. The people who did run into trouble just make themselves heard very well, and people who didn't likely just not bother to reply in this thread.

I suppose we (that's us, the people who did run into trouble) should've just kept quiet and muddle on.

Cuz, you know, it's only a system software upgrade. Who gives a toss if it isn't perfect, as long as it works for most of the time? And really, what does Nokia care about people complaining? After all, they already bought the things, so stuff 'em, right?

allnameswereout 2008-08-12 13:45

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 212702)
Just a note, if you are unsure about space,

mkdir /media/mmc2/cache/apt/archives
rm /var/cache/apt/archives
ln -s /media/mmc2/cache/apt/archives /var/cache/apt/archives

(It's a little trick I learnt from http://mariusv.wordpress.com/2008/05...sant-surprise/ when installing *everything* (a total chinook to diablo install ;)))

@Saturn

[s]Dunno why using qole's chroot scripts is an requirement.[/s]. (Thanks Bundyo!)
If you are root and mounted mtdblock4 on /debian,
just run "chroot /debian"

good advice but should be

Code:

mkdir -p /media/mmc2/cache/apt/archives
mv /var/cache/apt/archives/* /media/mmc2/cache/apt/archives
rmdir /var/cache/apt/archives
ln -s /media/mmc2/cache/apt/archives /var/cache/apt/archives

I also use df -h and du -ms /home/user/* to check out what is the culprit. I also use dpkg -l and see if there are applications which I barely use, and uninstall them.

Just uninstalled fennec and xulrunner, helped me a lot :)

EDIT: In Application manager -> Settings, 'Use MMC to download packages' would download the .deb's in /media/mmc2, right?

tso 2008-08-12 13:46

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
it seems that all those that have a broken update have used apt-get rather then app manager. also, have those used the -unlocked package?

allnameswereout 2008-08-12 13:54

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by free (Post 212733)
Thanks a lot qwerty12!
I saw this sdk but was not sure that it's safe to use is on the device directly.

So, in case people are also looking for a repository list, here it is (included maemo community, not nokia-official):

I have SDK in there too, and nothing goes broken, but its not wise to do this.

I have unlocked too, but was in the blue pill mode (the normal one right? woops, am not a matrix fan :P). I didn't use APT CLI to upgrade, I used the GUI. A few times I got an error about dependancies but I think later it was fixed.

Also, notice
Code:

deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/updates/diablo-1/ ./
Is updated _to_ this during this install. The -1 is added after /diablo and there is no more 404 error when doing apt-get update.

My software version is still the old one, but I think the upgrade is complete because I have newer microb, newer modest, and the device still runs. Maybe it is because I installed a 3rd party kernel.

I'm pretty sure Nokia would like to hear about problems and feedback. Maybe, a summary of the problems experienced is a good idea. My issue is that I never know how people have modified their device. Maybe 3rd party packages should go in /usr/local or something? Or /opt? Besides that, the main issue is the out of space problem.

Karel Jansens 2008-08-12 13:57

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 212797)
it seems that all those that have a broken update have used apt-get rather then app manager. also, have those used the -unlocked package?

No, they haven't.

bunanson 2008-08-12 14:11

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 212400)
...it now randomly decides to wipe the input area clear and dump letters (or other characters) at the cursor position....

It is there before the upgrade. I ran into it twice, both were using the search function on itT forum, I thought it has to do with the itT site/search and I did not think more about it.

bun

DistantFire 2008-08-12 14:15

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
When will I learn to do a backup before accepting the next upgrade? Oh I know... NOW (too late, though)

TA-t3 2008-08-12 14:16

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 212796)
EDIT: In Application manager -> Settings, 'Use MMC to download packages' would download the .deb's in /media/mmc2, right?

That's a _very_ useful addition to the application manager (it wasn't there in OS2007). Downloading packages strains the built-in flash filesystem much more than usual, because the packages are already compressed. Thus the built-in compression in the jffs2 filesystem doesn't get to do its usual efficient compression (which normally makes the built-in filesystem absorb much more data than one should think). Quite the opposite actually. So it would be much better to use that setting and get the packages downloaded to the card instead of to the limited built-in flash.

combatdoc 2008-08-12 14:23

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Ok, i installed the Operating System Update that showed up when I went into red pill mode. I assume that was the latest upgrade, it rebooted the system and all that stuff, but when I went to about it still shows 23-14 as the build.

Anything wrong here?

tso 2008-08-12 14:24

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 212816)
That's a _very_ useful addition to the application manager (it wasn't there in OS2007). Downloading packages strains the built-in flash filesystem much more than usual, because the packages are already compressed. Thus the built-in compression in the jffs2 filesystem doesn't get to do its usual efficient compression (which normally makes the built-in filesystem absorb much more data than one should think). Quite the opposite actually. So it would be much better to use that setting and get the packages downloaded to the card instead of to the limited built-in flash.

hmm, app manager settings. only way to access those are via red pill :(

bunanson 2008-08-12 14:27

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DistantFire (Post 212814)
When will I learn to do a backup before accepting the next upgrade? Oh I know... NOW (too late, though)

I did a backup when I was prompted during the update. I said to myself, it is a good idea although I seldom use restore. I did the backup and it then continued with the upgrade. The upgrade did not get interrupted by making a backup during the process.

bun

lilith 2008-08-12 14:28

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 212797)
it seems that all those that have a broken update have used apt-get rather then app manager. also, have those used the -unlocked package?

Yes, I tried both. Trying the -unlocked package, I successfully downloaded and installed it, but the configuration script failed. If I got correctly what happened (I may be wrong) the package downloaded two .deb files (one for rx34 and one for rx44) in /usr/share/osso-software-version/ and then the configuration script tried to install the .deb corresponding to my device (rx44). This attempt failed due to the lack of a set of packages: initfs-flasher kernel-diablo-flasher flash-and-reboot . I did the first time the update from the app manager, and once I saw it had not worked I used apt-get, seeing the error messages. The app manager did not reboot my N810 at the end of the upgrade, nor showed me any error message that could allow me to see that something was wrong.

So all the problem (in my case) was due to the accidental removal of a set of packages that should never be removed from your N810. I have been able to reproduce the conditions that led to the removal: a simple
Code:

apt-get remove gizmo-installer
apt-get -f upgrade

from a newly flashed device removes those packages.

tlacuache 2008-08-12 14:38

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Update worked as advertised for me. Browser does seem a bit faster. No problems here.

debudebu 2008-08-12 14:52

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
in order to install this update i ended up reflashing. the irony. i was having problems with dependencies that i couldn't figure out. likely i was missing a repository or something like that, but i gave up after a couple hours of inexperienced trial and error.

combatdoc 2008-08-12 14:57

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Anybody check their about? Mine still says 23-14 although I updated from the "Operating System Update" option in Application Manager's red pill mode. It rebooted and all just as it was supposed to as well.

debudebu 2008-08-12 15:18

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
humm. other than the reflash this is a good update. the ui seems even snappier and the browser is faster.

mfortner 2008-08-12 15:23

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nhanquy (Post 212373)
After apt-get clean, update, install... from my mmc2 on my N800 and rebooting the device, the mmc2 and flash both show 4.2008.30-2.
Even I did not try to update the OS from flash. Also bootmenu doesn't change.

So it looks like we can do one shot update from mmc2 if we have dual booting.

:confused:

Similar experience for me. Booted from the removable card. Then ran apt-get install...unlocked. Both the removable and flash read as updated even though I never ran the update while booted from the flash.

I did get an error on install:

Errors were encountered while processing:
install tools
E: Sub-process/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
/home/user #

Is this something to be concerned about?

free 2008-08-12 16:11

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Errors were encountered while processing:
install tools
E: Sub-process/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
/home/user #
Well, the real error is a few lines before. This only says "There was an error"


Without real error log, there's no need to give feedback. Until now, I have seen no one explaining in detail their bugs, nobody has posted any error message and also what they had in their sources.list

My upgrade using apt-get went fine. I prefer to do it and watch error message in real time and do not want any gui to choose for me.

I still miss a changelog though.
In fact, this changelog could be built easily by merging all the diffs from old versions to new versions. Unfortunatly I neither have old versions numbers (of the 61 apps upgraded) nor changelog (thanks docpurge).
There's also no apt changelog (/var/log/dpkg.log). Only somebody who has not yet done the upgrade could generate such changelog.

TA-t3 2008-08-12 16:33

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 212824)
hmm, app manager settings. only way to access those are via red pill :(

Argh.. and argh again.. being able to do this kind of setting should be blue pill mode.. IMHO. Oh well. Thanks for clarifying though!

qole 2008-08-12 16:35

Re: First Diablo SSU update is out (4.2008.30-2)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 212704)
@qwerty12:

You also have to mount /dev /proc /sys and /tmp :) Before chrooting.

EDIT: With --bind.

mount --bind /dev [your-mount-point]/dev

Yeah, my chroot script is basically a big fancy version of that.


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