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Re: Found perfect convergence device. Its not a N8XX.

I'm glad there's people out there that are easy to please, and willing to say that they've got everything they could possibly want in their cell phone. Hooray for you!

I really like my N800, and it is the best piece of technology that I've ever owned, but I freely admit that it is still very limited. But as I've been trying to say, the problem is that the infrastructure is pathetically limited, so I still haven't seen anything that I want more than my N800 yet.

Although I should warn you that tight pants may cause reproductive difficulties later in life.

Re: Found perfect convergence device. Its not a N8XX.

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Originally Posted by anthonybuchanan (Post 218142)

I just dont think Nokia can continue with the Nokia N8XX the way it is now cause the sales guys in the Nokia store in Chicago whisper to me that the N8XX just doent sell much. If this is true than dont expect to see the N8XX around long in its current incarnation of not making phone calls

I find that hard to believe, given nobody can seem to keep stock of N8x0's for very long at all everywhere I've looked (online and offline). Particularly impossible to find any new N800's in an unopened box. :P

Re: Found perfect convergence device. Its not a N8XX.

Well, he's talking about a Nokia store. If there's one place you shouldn't buy an N810, it's at a Nokia store. I bet the Nokia sales guys don't even know exactly what it is.

Re: Found perfect convergence device. Its not a N8XX.

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 218130)

Yeah, I'm pretty bitter and pessimistic, I know. Without an obvious fountain of profit, I can't see any of the current carriers offering true high-speed data networks any time soon... They're only offering these things they call "unlimited data" because they know they can squeeze you in other ways.... Can you do good VoIP over this data-only plan? Is that $40 all you have to pay (no 3 year contracts, etc)? How much do the devices to access this network cost?

I hope you're right Benson. I really do.

2 year contract; they do offer some plans without contracts, but not the data-only. Not sure on devices they offer, as I'm currently looking at getting $30 voice (cheapest available) with the $6 data; I assume you can get the contract (with full subsidy cost built-in :() and not buy a subsidized device, in which case any unlocked GSM-1900/850 (with EDGE) should do. VoIP is said to work OK over EDGE; I'll know once I have it. Latency is not so hot, but that's something VoIP tends to suffer anyway, so I'm used to it. And tethering is allowed, although they don't offer support for it; no worries about getting the boot because they caught your usage patterns.

I realize it's quite possible they choke back on things, or raise rates exorbitantly, as they get 3g out there. But I'm not writing them off. (Oh, and roaming onto AT&T's network (and some others) is free, provided your phone has the 850MHz band, as most current offerings do; coverage is therefore not much of an issue.)

Of the US carriers, they look the most promising from here; that's why I'm looking at switching to them. I am well aware of the possibilities for things to go bad, but I guess I just haven't been burned often enough. ;)

Re: Found perfect convergence device. Its not a N8XX.

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 218170)

Well, he's talking about a Nokia store. If there's one place you shouldn't buy an N810, it's at a Nokia store. I bet the Nokia sales guys don't even know exactly what it is.

Considering how impossible Nokia has made it to buy parts to repair your own N8x0 or even to buy a replacement stylus.. even in their own flagship stores.. I would not only tend to believe you but I don't think I would bother giving them more of the profit by shopping in their own stores. :( I'm pretty upset about that aspect of Nokia's business and support.

Re: Found perfect convergence device. Its not a N8XX.

fatalsaint, the point I making is that you
(meaning lovers of N8XX but against phone capability)
people
(whatchu mean, you people ?)
are not maintaining enough revenue/profit for Nokia to justify continuing to satify your fetish of limiting the N8XX to niche functionality.

Rather than be impossible being practicle is better.

This whole conversation is useless because I doubt Nokia is listening in to this sub-forum. We are like tree falling in the forest when no one is around.

Re: Found perfect convergence device. Its not a N8XX.

Nokia will not keep throwing money down the drain because they see a "stuborn", "impossible" bunch of gadflys (a complement) and say, "wow, look at those gadflys over there". "Lets throw money away on their fetish cause they are stuborn and admirably impossible". "Lets throw away a few hundred million".

Re: Found perfect convergence device. Its not a N8XX.

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Originally Posted by anthonybuchanan (Post 218190)

Are you sure YOUUUUU people aren't the ones limiting the N8x0 to niche functionality by limiting it to a particular technology/carrier by integrating a telco carrier radio?

Youuuuuu people! Pff. :)

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Originally Posted by anthonybuchanan (Post 218197)

aka "THOOOOOSE people?" :)

Re: Found perfect convergence device. Its not a N8XX.

All of this lame "convergence device" discussion is pointless until battery technology gets to the point where you can actually use the device for one of its functions for more than a couple hours, let alone any more than one. . . .

Besides, what's wrong with a "niche" device that's sold more than 750,000 units? That sounds like a pretty decent number of units shipped to me.

anthonybuchanan, do you honestly think anything a bunch of jerkoffs says here has any effect on Nokia's future hardware plans? I mean, honestly? If so, you're more deluded than even your convergence device ranting might have indicated.

Edit: it seems we've wound our way down well past useful discussion to taking pot-shots at one another now.