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Mara 2008-08-15 14:47
Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 
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Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 214061)
Then again, no software is better than the maps.. and TomTom get their maps from TeleAtlas (as do many other navigation systems), which again buy from different map makers in different countries, which again usually buys maps from local authorities. And if these last ones aren't putting in the latest or correct or complete information then there's not much TT can do at their end (but read below). For example, where I live the maps have _no_ information about one-way, non-motorized etc. That's why I so much appreciate TT's _excellent_ route recalculation function.

In their later versions TomTom has actually done something to help about this common problem.. there's now a 'layer' function which means that you can install 'patches' to their maps (on your own device), and even share these patches with others.
Forgot to mention but Yahoo maps have the roads correct on those particular spots I mentioned in my previous post... Who does Yahoo have as their map source?

TomTom map correction: I tried to use this map correction feature on TomTom when I was experimenting with it. I put there missing piece of road to connect about 20 meters that broke apart one road... but at least it didn't correct the routing at that time. I also submitted the correction to TomTom by using the TomToms built in update function... maybe it gets corrected sometimes soon?

luca 2008-08-15 14:57
Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 
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Originally Posted by lma (Post 214034)
I don't think there's much hope for improvement on that front, unless the whole thing is rewritten from scratch as a native application (guess what the current one's written in, explains a lot doesn't it?)
By looking at the debugging output I suspect that under the hood wayfinder is a java application.

lardman 2008-08-15 15:50
Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 
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Actually their purpose was to use GPS navigator when walking in forest (hunting, etc.). For that purpose the TomTom (or any other car navigation GPS...) is completely useless.
In the UK, one can buy GPS units made specifically for hiking, etc., with what we call OS (Ordnance Survey) maps installed. These show topographical features as well as roads, buildings, etc.

lemmy 2008-08-15 16:01
Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 
I use Wayfinder all the time, before it I used Tom Tom on a Palm TX. I can't differentiate between them in speed of operation or mapping accuracy - neither is exactly 100% in the mapping area but speedwise both work plenty fast enough for turn by turn navigation in London.

And the price for a 3 year license doesn't strike me as bad. Updating Tom Tom's maps was a lot more expensive.

Wayfinder's not perfect - if only there was a British female voice instead of plummy Christopher - but it's as good as any other software on a non-dedicated platform.

I have happy memories of Tom Tom begging me to 'turn left immediately' while I was driving through the Loire Valley. I didn't because on my immediate left was the 200 metre wide River Loire - and the nearest bridge was at least 10km ahead of me.

munky261 2008-08-15 21:55
Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 
there is a british female voice for wayfinder...Carinna Du Plessis

gazza_d 2008-08-15 22:11
Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 
yea, but Carinna scares the hell outta me!!

I think she's south african or something - the american bird is not bad to listen too
I did have a look a while agao to see if it was possible to hack tomtom vioces to wayfinder, as they are only ogg files, but not enough matched.

My main gripe with wayfinder in the UK is the traffic, works great most of the time, but not all of the details are updated or accurate enough.
about 5 weeks ago a couple of motorway junctions were closed overnight for about 3 days, but on wayfinder those sections between sliproads are marked as closed still, and all day as well. another junction where you are diverted about 3 miles is not even included.

Don't suppose it's wayfinder's fault, more the data provider, but it's irritating still.

I also agree that the wayfinder 3-year deal in the UK including traffic is very competitive - cheaper than updating my garmin without traffic!

lma 2008-08-15 22:12
Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 
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Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 214190)
there is a british female voice for wayfinder...Carinna Du Plessis
South African, actually. There's even an Afrikaans version available.

lma 2008-08-15 22:48
Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by luca (Post 214074)
By looking at the debugging output I suspect that under the hood wayfinder is a java application.
See also /usr/share/navicore/*.zip

rdcinhou 2008-08-16 00:45
Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 
I too think that the Wayfinder Maps application is way over-priced for the quality.

In three spots in Texas (Houston, San Antonio and College Station) there were bad street errors (mispellings, wrong connectivity, wrong names).

Even worse is that their maps show streets that aren't really streets. It showed a quarter-mile long drive onto our farm in Marlin, Texas (on private property!) as an unlabled road!

Since the US map takes 6+ hours to download for an update during which time you cannot use the device, it makes the prospect of getting meaningful updates nil.

I'd rather buy a mainstream GPS than get half-fast software that is overly expensive.

allnameswereout 2008-08-16 01:07
Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mara (Post 214056)
A month ago I visited my parents, who had purchased TomTom One. In that area (mostly forest and farmland...) in Finland the TomTom maps are full of errors so that the guiding instructions are completely wrong. In one area TomTom is asking to go to a "road" where there is no road at all!

The same road database errors exist in Google maps as well as Wayfinder maps. (So the Nokia Maps (Wayfinder) has no advantage there.)

Actually their purpose was to use GPS navigator when walking in forest (hunting, etc.). For that purpose the TomTom (or any other car navigation GPS...) is completely useless. I had my N810 with MaemoMapper and Finland topographic maps and they were very impressed. Next time I go there they asked to bring them one N810... even when I tried to told that the GPS is not exactly that good (fix time...), but regardless they still insisted to have one. Also my sisters husband who saw it said he wanted to buy my N810 on the spot! He asked if I could bring him as well one, but hasn't confirmed yet. (We asked the N810 price on local Nokia shop and they asked like 470Euros... :eek: So purchasing it locally there is out of question. :rolleyes:)

As a summary, not even "professional" GPS navigator can overcome the restrictions of poor maps. Second, not everyone is needing a "hold hand and guide me" type detailed instructions when driving... just a map showing current position and roads nearby is adequate, at least for me. For that purpose MaemoMapper is perfect... and is suitable for "off the road" use like hunting, hiking, geocaching, etc.
Which is no surprise because the maps for Wayfinder and Google are both provided by TeleAtlas. TeleAtlas employees draw these maps based on their ground and satellite photographs.

TomTom does run on the ARM but TomTom is now a competitor of Nokia. On OpenTom.org are some hardware specifications about all the TomToms available on the market.

Since Nokia acquired Navteq I believe they're going to use this technology in the future, and I expect Nokia to port Nokia Maps to the NIT.

If you fire up Navicore from a console you'll see all kind of errors containing filename.class. From that alone its pretty clear its a Java application.

I don't like the N810's GPS, so I am using a Wayfinder BT with Sirf III GPS chipset.

I'm using Sara (US/female) BTW.

To purchase Wayfinder/Navicore you need a credit card.


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