Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 

I just brought the license yesterday, and the software seemed quite good.

On another note, I also brought a nokia sucker and was very impressed how quickly the tablet got a lock. It seemed much quicker being vertical than horizontal.

Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 

didnt realize she wasnt british....never really heard anyone from south africa speak...i am from the states and a roundabout is a roundabout none of this rotary business...LOL the american sara voice sounds too snooty and *****y for me LOL

Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 

I live in Springfield, Massachusetts, as you can see from my label at the top. More often than not, the signs I've seen call them a rotary here in the United States. I've drive all over the US from Massachusetts to California and back over the northern I-80 route and the southern I-40/I-46 (old Route 66) route... and it's been called a rotary every time I've looked. Regionally, they're more often than not called a 'rotary' here in the US, despite the word you and your acquaintances prefer to use--which isn't incorrect (I'm sure it's used), but to say that there's 'none of this rotary business' is not just inaccurate but very wrong. :P

Also! Almost literally in my back yard (I live just over the border into Springfield next to East Longmeadow) is one of the most famous and dangerous rotaries in the country. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Lo..._Massachusetts

Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 

I used the 7 day test licence end of January in Sweden (between Göteborg and the Vänern) and my conclusion was that it is close to unusable due to map errors (proposing forest paths as roads), applications errors (especially regarding roundabouts and more complex junctions) and localization errors (distracting strange sentences). I won't compare it to my Volvos builtin navigation system but in relation to TomToms (and the like) it is way overpriced, especially because I provide all the hardware.

And last but not least: I provided detailed feedback to them (Wayfinder), I received a response early March with excuses that they haven't replied yet and that they would have a look. Since then: Nothing.

I think it is a pity for both us users as well as Nokia, because the NITs could provide many additional capabilities for integration of navigation, internet, user provided content (maps, corrections, routes, ...). Instead there is just a third class expensive navigation.

Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 

The problem with reporting map errors is that Wayfinder or TomTom then will have to report the map errors back to TeleAtlas or whatnot, and that company again has to take action to go back to their provider, which more often than not will have to go to the local authorities for the area in question and see if they can get an update. And, as this last link are just a bunch of public servants or bureaucrats nothing will happen in years. Not to mention all the details that can get lost between your report and the final destination.

No wonder nothing seems to ever come out of reporting map errors to the navigation software vendors. Maybe it helps, but only very long term.

What will not happen is that TomTom or Wayfinder updates the map themselves, based on your report.

Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 

Ah, so the problem is always the local authorities... :P

TeleAtlas (TomTom) makes the maps. They provide these maps commercially via license to several corporations including TomTom, Google, Wayfinder (Navicore), and others.

I don't have any proof local authorities make the maps for TeleAtlas.

So if you find errors in a map you contact one of these corporations who licensed the maps (or TeleAtlas directly) and they'll verify it and correct it in their next update. TomTom provides a nice platform for customers to provide updates. You'd think TomTom is able to direct such information quickly to TeleAtlas given they're now the same corporation.

The voice navigation are indeed OGG Vorbis. You could try to replace them. In fact, maybe I do this, because the message "the GPS is not correctly placed" is sometimes quite embarassing when in a building. With data on SD (mmc2) partitioned as ext2 with Sara (EN_US_FEMALE) as voice the directory is: /media/mmc2/map/navicore/sounds/sound_eng/Sara -- YMMV

That said, if you want to make a petition you have to outline the problems you petition against first else you have no argument.

Here are my proposals to add to the list:
* Big map errors occuring while navigating in but not limited to Sweden, Finland.
* Some voices including but not limited to United Kingdom aren't native.
* Wayfinder's customer support replies slow to questions.
* Wayfinder only accept credit card payment; not bank transfer or Paypal. This costed them at least one customer.
* The Java application is an ugly port of the S80 version for Symbian.
* Possibly, the ToS invade privacy.
* The N810 GPS is bad at getting a lock influencing the performance of Wayfinder.

Once there is a consensus about the list (ie. several people agree with an entry) we can start to put it online, allow people to sign it, and then send it to Wayfinder. Please only sign the petition if you are a (potential) customer.

Please note: the last problem isn't directly their fault.

Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 

Check the 'about tomtom (or navigator)' in the setup page when running tomtom. But that's only part of the story. TeleAtlas uses different companies in different regions. But it's true that they also now correct their maps by having their own driving-around teams (I know that at least the partner used by TeleAtlas for one region used to do the same in the past, and may still be doing this).

Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 

Well I don't agree that nearly all IT, user come here. I do think it's alot more than 18k, I have been reading ITT, for about 6 months now (as long as i've had my n810), and just registered so I could reply your comment.

P.S. This site has been the most helpful website i've ever been too, every problem or question i've had about my IT, has either already been answered or solved!

Re: Petition against Wayfinder?
 

Overall it's worked very well for me. As I said previously, I suspect there are regional performance differences.

Also, I have been reporting Wayfinder issues directly to maemo for some time now and have seen some of them resolved already. However, I would not be averse to more competition... which should be forthcoming since Nokia was approved to buy Navteq.

Here in Texas we call them "traffic circles" :rolleyes: