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TA-t3 2008-09-12 10:45
Re: Whither the revolution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbec10 (Post 223248)
Can I set half hour alarms?
Can I change the amount of time I want the alarm to go off before the event.
Can I set an event that spans an entire week
For myself I want to add:
Can I set bi-weekly alarms?
Can I set 'Daily until..' alarms?
Can I set 'Every 5fth week on Friday, with end date: xy'
Can I set 'The 12th of every second month'
and so on.
Will it know about birthdays in the (missing) full Contacts list? And give me advance visual warning with a configurable time period?
Those are things I actually use on my T3, it makes life simpler.

ARJWright 2008-09-12 22:52
Re: Whither the revolution?
 
PIM on the IT looking at Nokia as it sits currently would be:
- Ovi
- Browser with offline capabilities
- Widgets for the homescreen
- one touch syncing to Ovi for IT and mobile phone

Don't think about PIM being so disconnected from everything else Nokia is doing, you'll miss the point of a device from a services company where the Internet is ubquious ;)

ARJWright 2008-09-12 22:55
Re: Whither the revolution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 223195)
Oh look what turned up on my N800!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3186/...fa5773ce_o.png

I fullscreened it and put the toolbars on the left side, but it is still pretty cramped vertically. As always, the designer's assumption of a big, 4:3 aspect ratio screen shows through...

Also, because it isn't GTK, tap-and-hold doesn't work for right-click. If there are any right-click dependent functions, using them would require a hack. I don't know if the GtkStyle project handles this kind of non-visual GTK thing. I hope it does, but...

Now all I need is some reason to use it. :p
That's one horrible UI for a mobile device. I hope that if there is a port of what you show gets a major retooling. Seriously, Palm had it right, and no one has been so bold to copy it. You are on a mobile device, tons of small buttons and drop downs are not productive.

Guess its time to get that UI/UX wireframe kit warmed up again ;)

qole 2008-09-12 23:01
Re: Whither the revolution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbec10 (Post 223248)
qole; How easy is it to install that application. I do not know any linux. However I have a good IT background.
Are there any bugs that you know of?
Can I set half hour alarms?
Can I change the amount of time I want the alarm to go off before the event.
Can I set an event that spans an entire week
When an alarm goes off and I choose to snooze. Will it alarm again in five minutes? If I do not answer it at all. Will it alarm again in five minutes?

Will that run perfectly on the n810?
I installed it in my Easy Debian chroot. "apt-get install korganizer"

As for your other questions, I have no idea; :o I said I don't actually use these tools, I was just curious about what it would look like on the tablet...

qole 2008-09-12 23:03
Re: Whither the revolution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 223459)
That's one horrible UI for a mobile device. I hope that if there is a port of what you show gets a major retooling. Seriously, Palm had it right, and no one has been so bold to copy it. You are on a mobile device, tons of small buttons and drop downs are not productive.
Yeah, like so many other productivity apps in Debian (Evolution mail, I'm looking at YOU), it was clearly designed for a desktop. I bet the devs who wrote these apps would be a bit shocked to see them on a tablet; thed'd probably look at it and blush... "Oh man, I should have thought of that..."

tso 2008-09-12 23:19
Re: Whither the revolution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 223461)
Yeah, like so many other productivity apps in Debian (Evolution mail, I'm looking at YOU), it was clearly designed for a desktop. I bet the devs who wrote these apps would be a bit shocked to see them on a tablet; thed'd probably look at it and blush... "Oh man, I should have thought of that..."
heh, can someone say outlook on a umpc? ;)

allnameswereout 2008-09-12 23:54
Re: Whither the revolution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 223254)
Oh gawd... don't get me started on the notes. My wife's biggest peeve with me other than general clutter...
Hihi. I hear ya. Ask her to stick them on your forehead, you'll be cured in no time ;)

Zuber 2008-09-13 04:32
Re: Whither the revolution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 223459)
That's one horrible UI for a mobile device. I hope that if there is a port of what you show gets a major retooling. Seriously, Palm had it right, and no one has been so bold to copy it. You are on a mobile device, tons of small buttons and drop downs are not productive.

Guess its time to get that UI/UX wireframe kit warmed up again ;)
Personally I disagree. It might have been "right" for some. But as I recall, 3rd party apps that added more complex functionality was all the rage. There was at least two competing "Power" apps for the PIM as I recall. This was at Palm Tungsten times. So I'm assuming the latest ones hadn't moved on much by the way.

One of the key things was that they all stuck to using the same database though. Hence the sync tools could be common.

Besides which, we have got a beautiful 800 x480 screen. So yes, needs to be more Hildonised, lbut ets not make it look too basic. Perhaps keep what is displayed/removed configurable. Just my opinion.

Zuber

Bundyo 2008-09-13 07:00
Re: Whither the revolution?
 
He is talking about the interface, not the functionality :) It can have full functionality without having scrollboxes with one or two rows...

vvaz 2008-09-13 09:45
Re: Whither the revolution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 223319)
For myself I want to add:
Can I set bi-weekly alarms?
Can I set 'Daily until..' alarms?
Can I set 'Every 5fth week on Friday, with end date: xy'
Can I set 'The 12th of every second month'
and so on.
Will it know about birthdays in the (missing) full Contacts list? And give me advance visual warning with a configurable time period?
Those are things I actually use on my T3, it makes life simpler.
Yes, yes, yes, yes. You can set birthdays in another part of Kontact - Kaddressbook - Kontact can remind you about them.


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