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AnnaOnTheMoon 2008-09-02 19:49

Watching Video?
 
I put an avi file on my memory card to test out watching video and it was very choppy and pixilated. Does the N810 support avi files or do I need to try a different format? The file is large (350 MB) and about 45 minutes long. Was the file I tried too long?

amadams 2008-09-02 20:03

Re: Watching Video?
 
The file size doesn't matter. Were you using the included media player? What frame rate was the video encoded at? The frame rate is important since a high frame rate could cause stuttering. Also mplayer plays video better than the included media player. I've used a bit rate of 634 kb/s without trouble in mplayer.

Karel Jansens 2008-09-02 20:06

Re: Watching Video?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnaOnTheMoon (Post 220199)
I put an avi file on my memory card to test out watching video and it was very choppy and pixilated. Does the N810 support avi files or do I need to try a different format? The file is large (350 MB) and about 45 minutes long. Was the file I tried too long?

Most likely. This sounds like one of those recorded tv shows available (not really available, but linked to) from sites as EZTV.

Regardless of some of the more brazen claims sometimes made here, only rarely will you be lucky enough to be able to watch a video on the tablet without re-encoding it, the stream becomes all too soon too much for the tablet to handle. The format (usually DivX or Xvid) is usually not so much the problem, although the default media player is much more fussy than the excellent mplayer.

There are so many solutions available that I won't even begin to list them. Just click the "wiki" tab at the top of this page and start reading. It's all there...

Benson 2008-09-02 21:27

Re: Watching Video?
 
You're running about 1.1 Mb/s there, so you will probably need to reencode.

overfloat 2008-09-02 21:43

Re: Watching Video?
 
i encourage you to use mplayer - 175mb episodes of arrested development (22mins) run fine in mplayer on my n800 (SOMETIMES the sound is out of sync, but it is like that from the start due to the soundtrack delay settings in mplayer messing up - just reopen the file and its usually fine)

AnnaOnTheMoon 2008-09-02 22:01

Re: Watching Video?
 
I was using whatever shows up as "Media player" on the menu. Where can i get mplayer from?

Karel Jansens 2008-09-02 22:03

Re: Watching Video?
 
PocketDivXEncoder files, using the Xvid format (can be set in advanced properties), play without problems in both mplayer and Media Player.

The "problem" with PDXE is that it doesn't have a preset for the tablets. You have to create your own preferences file, or set it by hand everytime.

overfloat 2008-09-02 22:22

Re: Watching Video?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnaOnTheMoon (Post 220262)
I was using whatever shows up as "Media player" on the menu. Where can i get mplayer from?

settings -> application manager ->browse installable applications

then click search (the binoculars icon) and type "mplayer"

download and install

AnnaOnTheMoon 2008-09-04 16:49

Re: Watching Video?
 
Hmm. I get "no matches found".

AnnaOnTheMoon 2008-09-04 16:54

Re: Watching Video?
 
hah! found it! :D I had to download one of the repositories from maemo first. D'oh.

slha89 2008-09-04 19:05

Re: Watching Video?
 
N8x0 hardware isn't build to watch the usual old and proven video files/formats (MPEG2-PAL/NTSC, MJPEG...). It's an Internet Tablet!

Lord Raiden 2008-09-04 19:15

Re: Watching Video?
 
Well, you can easily watch videos on the n810. I've done it already, although as slha89 pointed out, it's not designed for it. For one thing, it eats battery like it's going out of style. So instead of 6 hours of battery, you're lucky to get 3. Also, you need to convert all your files down to 480x320, 768k bitrate @ 25 frames, 44100 sample rate with mp3 audio at 128k.

If you use "Any Video Converter" (it's a free program) you can batch convert nearly any video format down to the right format. It's even got an Nokia Nseries option on it, but I've found that the custom avi works better as it gets the proper balance of quality over performance. The Nseries option goes with slightly lighter settings for a minor performance improvement, with a slight quality hit.

It's only really a good idea to use the N810 for watching video if that's the only thing you're taking with you. If you can bring a PMP, use that instead for watching video.

overfloat 2008-09-04 22:14

Re: Watching Video?
 
mplayer works fine for me, i watch series all the time on my n800 with no problems.... standard dvdrip episodes - 175meg 22mins, 350meg 44mins........ 700mb dvdrip movies are fine too........ i dont know why people keep saying that you need to convert videos

AnnaOnTheMoon 2008-09-04 23:52

Re: Watching Video?
 
I managed to get mplayer to play the .avi file, but I couldn't figure out how to stop it mid-way since it immediately went full screen. I was looking for entertainment on the long plane ride ahead, but I can just play tetris ;)

ace 2008-09-05 00:58

Re: Watching Video?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnaOnTheMoon (Post 221033)
I managed to get mplayer to play the .avi file, but I couldn't figure out how to stop it mid-way since it immediately went full screen. I was looking for entertainment on the long plane ride ahead, but I can just play tetris ;)

Use the physical buttons: full-screen button to toggle fullscreen, +- to control volume, dpad to seek, and the dpad button to play/pause.

AnnaOnTheMoon 2008-09-05 01:09

Re: Watching Video?
 
Again, I'm an idiot :D

Thanks!

nobodysbusiness 2008-09-05 03:28

Re: Watching Video?
 
I often download ".flv" files off of YouTube to watch on the tablet. There's a thread here in which we're all listing some of our favorite short YouTube clips.

strider_mt2k 2008-09-05 11:57

Re: Watching Video?
 
Hey folks.

I've been playing 700MB divx .AVIs on my N810 using mplayer.
I ripped them using Fair Use Wizard at default settings.
Those movies/videos sometimes seem like they are on the verge of skipping, but I've found that if it's the only task my tablet is performing it will settle down and play smoothly.

The .flv stuff from YouTube is flawless, but it's also much lower resolution video, and often in the square aspect ratio as well.

Overall it isn't as strong as I'd like, but it still works fine and hasn't annoyed me yet. (always a good arbiter)

What blew my mind right away was the mYTube application.
It does stuff I was using a Firefox plugin to do on my PC, and in a FAR more refined and elegant manner!

I think the main thing to remember is to make sure that playing video is the only thing your tablet is doing when you are doing it.
That way it can use all the resources available to it to do the job.

MenoRikey 2008-12-28 21:22

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I think its pretty pathetic the N810 can't handle divx/xvid files without re-encoding them. I'm coming from the Windows Mobile world and using the TCPMP on my Dell Axim, I could pretty much throw any video file on it and it would play flawlessly. This is with a machine that is made more for business use then for media.

bunanson 2008-12-28 22:25

Re: Watching Video?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MenoRikey (Post 253047)
I think its pretty pathetic the N810 can't handle divx/xvid files without re-encoding them. I'm coming from the Windows Mobile world and using the TCPMP on my Dell Axim, I could pretty much throw any video file on it and it would play flawlessly. This is with a machine that is made more for business use then for media.

I am afraid that is NOT ALL that correct. Use VCURLs72, you can either stream or dl a copy and play the .avi on the fly without any re-encoding. There are over 100 - 200 clips per channel and makes over 7200+ clips. It would take weeks or months of 24 full time watching to watch them all :), if you so desire. Admittedly, they are not ALL smooth, some are more jumpy than the others.

Another one is more of stream then dl copies, worldtv99, again, no re-encoding is needed.

I also own a Dell Axim and is beautifully/neatly wrapped in the box in the drawer ever since I owned a tablet years ago. BTW, I also use pocketTV to watch .divx on winMobile, only 50 50 chance it is working, re-encode is the way to go. That was also the time when pocketDIVX player started to emerge, I dl and installed and I remember, it never work. All info are 18 months old, though.


I think I watched a lot .avi on my tablet, from 770, N800 to N810. I spend at least 20 - 30 min a day, on the AudioVisual on the tablet, and I have yet to make even 1 re-encoding, so far.

bun


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