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See. It works for what I need it for. Wifi internet browsing, e-mail, and instant messaging when I don't want to whip out the laptop. It excels lovely in those areas for me.

Heck, I walked into a meeting with some clients, tapped into their wifi network - pre-arranged access - and showed them their website on a handheld that had a darn good screen since my laptop was the webserver for this experiment. All just to show them that the Adobe Flex project would run on the slowest machine they didn't have.

It's been stated before in these threads and site ad nauseum. This is not a mainstream product. That's (in my opinion) not a bad thing. But the fact that you're talking about software development and beta testing - trust me, the open source community isn't really beta testing, it's more like a big crap shoot (gambling) where some apps or features are duplicated, and it's just all about finding an app that works best for you. In my case, it's Skype, Modest, Map, Xournal, Maiku, HomeIP, HomeMemFree, Pidgin or RTComm, and quite a few other apps.

My internet tablet allows me to type messages like this... while even on the toilet.

And if accessories are another problem, I just had a gentleman make me a pouch I'd be proud of in public. I think you should have done a bit more research and your outcome would have been totally different.

Good luck on your endeavors. It just seems like the N810 was not made for you. And that's not a bad thing. I use mine alongside my iPhone 3G which still doesn't have Adobe Flash.

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You'd know there's something wrong with it when some years after people are STILL acting the same way :D

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Simpons? Where are they from? BTW: I had one stylus slip out of my fingers and into the rails of the seat in my car and it's been there ever since until I can get the time to dig around for it. THAT one I didn't happen to lose.. but I'm sure glad I had the extra one to use in the meantime. And then there have been times when I've lost my Palm styluses.. but I mostly blame the ability of those styluses to roll off of tables. It just happens, sometimes. It would be particularly great to have some aftermarket replacements for just such events.

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I don't support any PCs, but I do run a network with three-thousand of them connected, does that count? I'm not a linux professional, nor am I any OS professional - I leave that to the OS guys - but I still get along just famously with both my Tablet and its Diablo OS.

It's true that flash does not run fast enough on some sites - making the BBC news website a particular pain in the ***, but that's easily got around by leaving it disabled, using a low-graphics version or a little greasemonkey/user css.

All in all though I fail to see what is so bad about either the ITs or Diablo. They are small-format devices that are hugely customisable, good all-rounders and easy to fit in a pocket. I can understand why people have strong feelings about them - in both directions.

Davidsco27, I am speaking directly to you here for a moment, although it is also applicable in a more general sense which is why I am not PM'ing it: Leaving aside any personal feelings I might have, they aren't relevant or appropriate in this forum, may I humbly suggest that if you find the device and its operating system so insufferable then you find a combination that is more appropriate to your particular set of requirements? You do seem to have a somewhat mercurial relationship with your Internet Tablet - almost Latin in its intensity - and I can't help feeling that you may be better served by a different device.

I don't mean this in a negative way, I just genuinely feel that given the posts you have made here, this obviously isn't the device for you. That's not to imply that you aren't good enough for it, or that it isn't good enough for you, merely that it isn't the device you want.

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My N800 came with 2 stylus. I have not lost one yet. The whiner is both clueless --and-- careless to quickly lose two stylus.

I love my N800(s), shortcomings and all.

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Ah! Now it comes out. I get this from a lot of Windows admins when faced with having to learn another platform and realizing that their Windows knowledge doesn't apply to the larger world. There's resentment and frustration and they feel it must be the fault of the new system for not conforming to their expectations. Some long-time Windows users are willing to treat linux as a new challenge and learn about the differences and get over this initial learning curve. Some people get frustrated, blame linux for being different than windows and run away.

-John

PS: If you're really trying to tell me that XP would be faster than Windows 98 on a computer that originally shipped with Windows 98 you're a very confused person...

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Trust me. You don't want to know.

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:eek: Ookayyy...

/goes looking for the mind bleach.

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Sure you're not a homosexual

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Idiot, SCO is short for my middle name. LOVE it when *****s prove their stupidity by opening their mouths. It just makes it easier to identify them, and then ignore. Did your folks have any kids that lived?

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I knew it was only a matter of time until the 22 year old Star Wars geek would chime in. Nice to have all that free time on your hands, huh. Why does it have to be Linux based? Need I list other computers that push updates? I'd push them too, if I was getting free beta testing out of the deal.

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To answer a question, a zipperhead is a racial slur against asians.

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¬¬ i knew i shouldn't have gotten curious and open that link.

to both davids fighting here: please do stop, I really feel you're using these forums to vent frustration, and believe me, they are not meant for that, and you are bothering the rest of the users.
I'm pretty sure you are both able to get into a civilized discussion without problems, if you just try.
Thanks
Elia

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Sorry, I, like the average consumer, didn't even know about the forums here. I actually hate forums for the very reason we're seeing here. A LOT of wasted time, and a LOT of chest thumping

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Mine slid out of the device somewhere when it was being carried to a job. As I couldn't find a suitable case, the one I have stays open on the end, and the stylus just slid out. I actually venture outside once in a while. You should try it. There's a WHOLE world out there that isn't inhabited by furry creatures roaring, or wearing storm trooper helmets

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Well, after I lost one stylus (while travelling on the train after a long day) I decided to not risk the other one and I bought a multisystem pen from Lamy (pencil, ballpoint pen, stylus). Good decision IMHO, it is bigger than the original stylus (so it does not get lost as easily) and replaces the ball pen I was carrying around.

And I'm happy with my N800 as it does what I need it to do... and even a little more.

Arnd

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Was better when Pidgin worked. Unfortunately, both devices are a compromise. What one has, the other lacks, and THAT is the problem. If the Ipud had an SD slot, Flash, and an inexpensively user replaced battery, it would be perfect.

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Genius, I lost ONE, as did MANY other people if you read the forum. But please, please, go on thinking you're superior because you haven't yet lost your stylus. 'course, it isn't hard when you haven't left your parents' bedroom in 10 years

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Now that's some quality irony right there.

These threads always have one good thing going for them: at least one absolutely flawless example of irony.

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[QUOTE=Johnx;230926]Ah! Now it comes out. I get this from a lot of Windows admins when faced with having to learn another platform and realizing that their Windows knowledge doesn't apply to the larger world. There's resentment and frustration and they feel it must be the fault of the new system for not conforming to their expectations. Some long-time Windows users are willing to treat linux as a new challenge and learn about the differences and get over this initial learning curve. Some people get frustrated, blame linux for being different than windows and run away.

I don't have to learn Windows to make the computer work, and I don't have to learn Linux to make this work, I do, BTW, have an Ubuntu based PC as well. The point is, this doesn't work reliably.

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The problem is, I need it to fit in the device, as the original does. I don't want to have to carry around another piece

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The definition I know has nothing to do with Asians. I live and grew up in a former big IBM town. Back in the 60's, when IBM had over 15,000 employees here, they were all called zipperheads implying that IBM unzipped their head, dumped in all the IBM propaganda, and zipped it back up. IBM was God around here.

Back to the original topic (BTW, my forum editor does have spell check):
If you use rtcom-beta-os2008 you don't need Pidgin. Yes it's beta, but it works flawlessly for me.

My N800 is my favorite toy (well, maybe my second favorite toy). It is exactly what I expected when I bought it, a Linux device that can be endlessly configured. I never grow bored with it. If you did your research you would have known what it was before you spent the money. Anybody who spends that much money without doing the research first is a fool.

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Okay, I think what David is trying to say is that he doesn't like Diablo, but I'm not 100% sure.

I don't see the point of complaining about it and then coming and insulting everyone that would have or could have helped you through your problems, but hey, I'm only Linux geek, right? I'm not supposed to know about human interaction. :rolleyes:

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I looked at rtcom, didn't like it, and wasn't able to install it anyway. Too many dependencies. I did research, but there wasn't much available to me originally that I was aware of. Hindsight is 20-20. Like I have said, there are things that are nice on the NIT, and a lot that is missing. Unfortunately, as usual, no one device does it right. Had the Ipud an SD card, replaceable battery and flash, and wasn't married to Itunes, it would be about as close as you could get. I didn't buy one for those reasons, so one must weigh the plusses and minuses. The app store does give the Ipud a boost, though

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I came on to make my opinions of it known and express my frustration with yet another broken app. If you read the threads, you will see I only responded in kind to the GEEKS who beat their chests and began the insults to justify their self-worth.

As an update, I just did manage to get Pidgin working again. I downloaded it from the project site on my Laptop, moved the file to my networked UPNP drive, and installed it from there, and for whatever reason, it worked.

:rolls eyes, passes gas, sighs:

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Hi,

My wife found this one funny.

No, I am not a homosexual but thank you for thinking I might be.

As for who started what, you were the one hurling personal insults first and others just defended themselves, including me.

Interesting thing, a forum.

David

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uh, no, but nice revisionist history. You must be a republican. READ the threads. I didn't come on here to insult people, but the kids who play on these things do, in between rounds of Half-life

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If you were, you probably wouldn't be his type anyway and he'd just be disappointed. :D

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Hi,

Just curious, are you able to get through one post without hurling an insult?

People might listen if you did not come off as the very thing you accuse others of.

You do not like Diablo, I think everyone got that in the first post.

You have spent the rest of the thread insuring the members here feel that way towards you also.

Is there a point to alienating the members here from your position or would you rather they share your position?

If it is the latter, you are going about it all wrong.

David

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AGAIN, I responded in kind to nimrods. End of discussion

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Don't feed the troll. ;)

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Hi,

Thank you for the advice, very good idea.

David

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ooooooooh, there goes the star wars geek, chiming in, I guess he must've completed a level on Middle Earth, took off his mask and ran to the board. You know, you REALLY shouldn't post your picture in your profile, it only confirms the obvious. But please, please, use more boss message board terms, it's SO neato peachy keen!!!

BTW, LOVE how this clown calls other's "trolls" when that's all this loser does 24/7 all over the board

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I have to agree with Benson, this entire thread is a waste of time. If you have some problem, point out what exactly it is an people will try to help you with it. Or perhaps expain why it is happening and what you are doing wrong.

Coming out here are crying throwing a tantrum is not really very constructive.

If you purchased something and it does not meet your needs return it. If its too late, sell it for what you can and take a loss. Thats life.

But for Gods sake, shut the f uck up you whiney 3 year old. Go buy a windows mobile device or an iphone, please do us all a favor.

If it does not meet your needs, thats your mistake. Please do some research before you spend 400$ and save us all the hassle.

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Or, I could be like some other dorks on here, and mention your spelling, OOOOOoooooo, you violated a forum axiom! Here's a clue, if it's a waste, and so bad, THEN WHY ARE YOU STILL READING IT?????????? hahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahaha

Loo ooooo ooooooo ZER!

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Here's the thing, if you are going to complain on something, propose a solution on how to fix it. It's always more constructive that way.

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