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njogo 2009-03-16 00:57

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian Turbo-Charged Edition!
 
how do I install personal menu?

njogo 2009-03-16 01:10

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and now I can't find abiword in my installable apps. just fyi.

qole 2009-03-16 01:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by njogo (Post 271955)
how do I install personal menu?

http://maemo.org/downloads/product/O...personal-menu/

njogo 2009-03-16 02:44

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian Turbo-Charged Edition!
 
I got it qole. One last question for the night....will I always have my abiword icon and program listing through the personal menu icon in the navigation panel, or can do something to put it in with the other installed apps?

Thanks so very much for all your guidance!
I'm set!
N

crasbelize 2009-03-16 07:39

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Hi there.
None of my apps will run.

I did get a error during the extraction process:
Here is what happen >>>

Nokia-N810-43-7:/media/mmc2# tar -xjvf debian-chroot-img-final.tar.bz2
debian-final.img.ext2
bzip2: I/O or other error, bailing out. Possible reason follows.
bzip2: Input/output error
Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
Nokia-N810-43-7:/media/mmc2#

qole 2009-03-16 15:51

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crasbelize: Your downloaded file is incomplete or damaged. Use the installer to get it again.

crasbelize 2009-03-16 19:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 272020)
crasbelize: Your downloaded file is incomplete or damaged. Use the installer to get it again.

Thanks, i found out that I needed more room on my int. card. I formated the card and tired it again.

Am all set.

jaeezzy 2009-03-17 19:45

Re: ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian Turbo-Charged Edition!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 233305)
Start the chroot, and then, from a non-root, non Debian prompt, type the following:
Code:

mkdir -p /media/mmc1/apt-archives/partial
sudo mount -o bind /media/mmc1/apt-archives /debian/var/cache/apt/archives

This will make a cache directory on your MMC card (you can change mmc1 to mmc2 if you want) and then tells Debian to use that to store all of the downloaded packages.

Hi, I read on one site deleting files from the following directories for making more space in the File System. They are:

/usr/share/doc/
/usr/share/info/
/usr/share/zoneinfo/
/usr/share/locale/
/var/cache/apt/*.bin (just the .bin files)

This, in my case, can give me back 80+ MB of space and space has been the major concern for me in Easy Debian Turbo as I'm not an advanced user to start with empty image file. So, I was wondering if I can delete files and folders from the above mentioned directories without affecting the update, upgrade or install in the future or some way I can mount these to MMC like in the case of mounting /var/cache/apt/archives to MMC as you have mentioned as I have 8GB card and I'm only using 1.1GB of it. Also, is there any other unwanted files residing in the file system which I can get rid of to make more space? Thank you.

qole 2009-03-17 23:15

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You can probably safely delete the files from the first three, not so sure about the other two. Your locales shouldn't be a huge issue if you installed localepurge as indicated in my previous posts.

Make sure you've done an "apt-get clean" then do the MMC mount of the apt archives folder. You'll probably have to do an "apt-get -f install" or something to finish your broken install.

The best idea is always just deleting packages you don't use a lot.

jaeezzy 2009-03-18 04:40

Re: [Debian] ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian Turbo-Charged Edition!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 272489)
You can probably safely delete the files from the first three, not so sure about the other two. Your locales shouldn't be a huge issue if you installed localepurge as indicated in my previous posts.

Make sure you've done an "apt-get clean" then do the MMC mount of the apt archives folder. You'll probably have to do an "apt-get -f install" or something to finish your broken install.

The best idea is always just deleting packages you don't use a lot.

Ya I regularly do 'apt-get clean' 'apt-get autoremove' and also 'apt-get autoclean' after each install and upgrade. Upgrading was only possible with the mounting as you instructed in your previous post as it was downloading 250+ MB of archives and the max space I had after installing localepurge as indicated by you was just 177MB. Btw, as I was successful to do the upgrade, it has caused me one problem, now while opening Synaptic Package Manager it asks me for password but I haven't set any password at all. So how can I make it stop asking for one? Thank you.

ADDED: Also, iceweasel and kazehakase browsers keeps closing often while trying to search or hit link etc. Is this normal? and why is xvkbd keeps printing the same character multiple times unless you click somewhere else?

suutari 2009-03-20 20:12

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Thank You very much qole for this. I have been mildly interested in NITs, but never really got into buying one. After I accidentally found this thread, I had no choice but to buy one. Possibility to run Debian makes this device soo much more fun. After getting to know OS2008, I do like it too, but Debian is... Debian. Beeing able to run both in parallel is just excellent.

intery 2009-03-21 08:30

Re: [Debian] ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian Turbo-Charged Edition!
 
Hi, Qole. Is there any mp3 player for EDTCE wich can mount smb and add folders to play? Or how to play music library from Mac with samba support? Usual player can browse and open and play only files, but not folders. MPD on mac is very difficult to me. In another thread you wrote is possible to mount smb in EDTCE, how?

Thank you

qole 2009-03-22 00:09

Re: [Debian] ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian Turbo-Charged Edition!
 
Thank-you to all my beta testers.

Easy Debian and Easy Chroot are in Extras, and I'm very pleased about the solidity of the new scripts. Now, if things go wrong, it will be pretty clear what went wrong.

I hope to do a detailed blog entry soon, on the new chroot scripts and how to use them in your own projects.

qole 2009-03-22 00:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by intery (Post 273467)
Hi, Qole. Is there any mp3 player for EDTCE wich can mount smb and add folders to play? Or how to play music library from Mac with samba support? Usual player can browse and open and play only files, but not folders. MPD on mac is very difficult to me. In another thread you wrote is possible to mount smb in EDTCE, how?

I'm not aware of any music players that do mounting of shares directly. I personally use sshfs on my tablet to mount remote folders on my tablet, and I haven't found any great, lightweight GUI samba browsers/mounters in Debian. Anyone found one?

jonathandueck 2009-03-22 19:37

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The new .deb (as of yesterday) fails to install on my N800 (running Diablo, MMC-Boot). It worked great eariler yesterday (I installed it, then used debbie sudo aptitude install to install a few new applications), and then the Application Manager reported an update. I tried to install the update to easy-deb-chroot (0.9.17) , it proceeded mostly as you'd expect (specified install directories, etc.) But in the end Application Manager reported "Could not install."

I tried installing it using sudo apt-get, to get a more informative error message. I'll paste what it says here -- looks to me like trouble with the post-install scripts, but I'm not sure how to fix it. Any ideas?

Here's the output when I tried apt-get (with -f, same result):
-------------------------------------------------
/home/user # apt-get install easy-deb-chroot
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
easy-deb-chroot is already the newest version.
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
bzip2
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Setting up easy-deb-chroot (0.9.17) ...
Cache file created successfully.
/var/lib/dpkg/info/easy-deb-chroot.postinst: line 133: syntax error: end of file unexpected (expecting "fi")
dpkg: error processing easy-deb-chroot (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
easy-deb-chroot
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
/home/user #
--------------------------------------------------

The result, at present, is a partial install in which I can't open applications from the Hildon / Maemo menus. But I can run LXDE from those menus, and run Debian applications from there.

I've also tried removing easy-deb-chroot and easy-chroot, rebooting, and reinstalling the above, with the same error.

Any ideas on how I'd fix this?

Best,
Jon

ensign 2009-03-22 19:59

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Hi,

Had the same problem. So..
I opened the file
/var/lib/dpkg/info/easy-deb-chroot.postinst
in a terminal window, logged as root, and uncommented line 131.
That is s on line 131, change
#fi
to
fi

qole 2009-03-22 21:17

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ensign, thanks for your workaround (and excellent bug-tracking skills).

That certainly was a silly bug on my part.

I have fixed the bug and uploaded a new version to Extras.

Version 0.9.19 should be available soon in the repository.

If you get 0.9.18, it should be fine; upgraders just get a big empty notice window that you have to close.

LABAUDIO 2009-03-23 21:33

Re: [Debian] ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian Turbo-Charged Edition!
 
i install the application...i run the debian image installer...

the image is downloading on my external card (2.6 Go free space)

but when download finish properly, i got a message error

ERROR! ERROR! ERROR!
tar failed!
(maybe out of space error)
unable to instal easy debian image file


any clue???

a french noob

qole 2009-03-23 21:43

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LABAUDIO:

Well, it says you might be out of space.

If you aren't out of space on the SD card, then your download got damaged.

Run the installer one more time and if you get the same error, then delete the "debian-chroot-img-final.tar.bz2" file and try again.

LABAUDIO 2009-03-23 21:52

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i got it form maemo.org in the dowload page home...in fresh list...

http://maemo.org/downloads/product/O...sy-deb-chroot/

is the easy-deb-chroot 0.9.19

this is the good link:confused:

qole 2009-03-23 22:05

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LABAUDIO: I rewrote my post when I realized I was wrong. See above.

LABAUDIO 2009-03-23 22:14

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ok i got you edit

i reinstall the debian application...

but when i dowload the image, its a 314Mb instead 1.5Go

is it normal?

qole 2009-03-23 22:45

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The installer first downloads the compressed file (314 mb) and then expands it to full size (1.1 GB), then deletes the compressed file. This means that you need 1.5 GB free, for the brief time when the compressed file and the uncompressed file are both on your SD card.

LABAUDIO 2009-03-23 22:53

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same error!

i have 2.6 Go avaible on my sd before install

i dont understand lol

i make all desinstall/erase

i retry again...

and same error again...

qole 2009-03-23 23:02

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Open up a terminal. Type the following:

Code:

cd /media/mmc1
gtar -xjvf debian-chroot-img-final.tar.bz2

Post the output here.

LABAUDIO 2009-03-24 03:47

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~ $ cd /media/mmc1
/media/mmc1 $ gtar -xjvf debian-chroot-img-final.tar.bz2
gtar: bzip2 : la fonction exec a échoué: No such file or directory
gtar: Erreur non récupérable : arrêt du traitement
gtar: Child returned status 2
gtar: Des erreurs ont provoqué l'arrêt du programme/media/mmc1 $

FRZ 2009-03-24 05:00

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Hi, I am thinking of trying this install. Do I need to have a separate ext partition or could I put this image file on the fat partition? Just wondering cause I read your instructions and you didn't mention the format to place the image file into.

qole 2009-03-24 05:30

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LABAUDIO: You don't have bzip2 for some reason. I don't know why you don't have it, my package depends on it.

In a terminal:
Code:

sudo apt-get install bzip2
Then try the installer again...

Hm, it looks like my current version doesn't have the bzip2 dependency. My fault.

Because of LABAUDIO's problems, I'm uploading a new version tonight to make the installer more robust, and to add the bzip2 dependency back in.

So watch for 0.9.20.

qole 2009-03-24 05:32

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FRZ: The installer puts the image file onto the FAT partition on your mmc1 or mmc2 SD cards. The 810 has a "real" SD card slot and a "fake" 2GB internal SD card.

This is supposed to be "Easy" Debian, so it doesn't require any repartitioning at all.

FRZ 2009-03-24 05:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 274088)
FRZ: The installer puts the image file onto the FAT partition on your mmc1 or mmc2 SD cards. The 810 has a "real" SD card slot and a "fake" 2GB internal SD card.

This is supposed to be "Easy" Debian, so it doesn't require any repartitioning at all.

Yeah, I wanted to make sure. Thanks

LABAUDIO 2009-03-24 06:09

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ho ok i know iam picky but its for a good robust like you said lol
standalone is good way
you got my point woot

your the best

jaeezzy 2009-03-24 10:02

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Hi qole, I'm very much ejoying Easy Debian and I've almost stopped using my laptop and I'm taking this very opportunity to try and explore linux system as much as I possibly can. Thank you!! However, there's one thing bothering me quite a lot. As I'm using your "Switch to LXDE" to get into debian and due to the fact that logging out is the only way to go back to OS2008, information about battery is no where to be found unless I logout and it doesn't make sense to do so just to get battery info and app that comes with Debian to display battery info doesn't seem to recognize it. So, I am wondering if there's any cure for this. Thank you..

wipeout140 2009-03-24 16:47

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Thanks Qole, i did not have bzip2 installed either as i only really use tear from your repo and pidgin

It did not error out like last time at uncompressing

Only problem when load up LXDE instead of names for each folder/application etc.. all i see is square boxes. I assumed the locale is not setup so tried

Quote:

dpkg-reconfigure locales
But it errors out with the following output

Code:

perl: warning: setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:

LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LC_MESSAGES = "EN_GB",
LANG = "en_GB"

are supported and installed on your system

perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").

The goes on to say can't locate various files like:

auto/POSIX/autosplit.ix in @INC

LXDE loads very nicely but its un-usable because of this issue

Am possible done some thing wrong - so any help thanks (updated to 0.9.20 after updating repo and following rest of instructions)

Update - I was thinking it could be debian install is missing some fonts causing the square fonts

Unistall and try again later (Trying Mer Now)

FRZ 2009-03-24 22:50

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Oh, that was easy. I am running Openoffice right now. Sweet!

qole 2009-03-24 23:17

Re: [Debian] ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian Turbo-Charged Edition!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wipeout140 (Post 274219)
Thanks Qole, i did not have bzip2 installed either as i only really use tear from your repo and pidgin

It did not error out like last time at uncompressing

Only problem when load up LXDE instead of names for each folder/application etc.. all i see is square boxes. I assumed the locale is not setup so tried

Code:

dpkg-reconfigure locales
But it errors out with the following output...

Code:

perl: warning: setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings...


So, did you even get the big blue screen with the gray dialogue box?
Did you get a list of locales to choose?

I just tried dpkg-reconfigure locales on a fresh image that I downloaded as part of my image installer testing, and I got the big gray box etc.

The weird thing is that the downloaded image is already configured with en_GB as the default installed locale (since that's the one I have installed on my tablet). So you shouldn't need to reconfigure your locales.

I think you may have messed something up. Perhaps delete the image and download a fresh one.

wipeout140 2009-03-25 09:51

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Qole, I did not get a "big gray box". I assume the install went wrong. I will try again from a fresh tablet later today

armtwister 2009-03-25 11:50

Re: [Debian] ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian... #fi and bzip2
 
Quote:

qole: I have fixed the bug [#fi] and uploaded a new version to Extras.
Quote:

qole: I'm uploading a new version tonight to make the installer more robust, and to add the bzip2 dependency back in.
qole - I'm really glad these are sorted - I hit them simultaneously after a re-flash following one of those lovely continuous reboot loops :mad:. I did manage to sort the lack of bzip2, but I couldn't fathom the other :confused:.

I know it's very basic, but I wonder if you think it would be worth saying for newbies that the maemo Extras catalogue needs to enabled in the Application Manager (it took me a while to get that originally)? :o

I am a newbie, who has been lurking around this thread for some time - and I'm finally taking the plunge and posting! I am a Linux virgin, and I also have very limited system-level knowledge of Windows :eek: (more on RISC-OS), so I'm on a steep learning curve. I hail from the days when the OS fitted into 4K and 16K of RAM were a looxury :rolleyes:. However, I did do some early work with Sophie (fka Roger) Wilson, the co-inventor of the ARM, so I feel some sense of connection :).

I am delighted with my N810 for web-browsing and e-mail, and my interest here is in being able to see (and edit) Office docs sent by e-mail. The work you have done, qole, has attracted justifiable plaudits, and I add my humble congrats and thanks :D.

I have a few points that I will post separately.

armtwister 2009-03-25 12:16

Re: [Debian] ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian... movable windows
 
Quote:

qole: If you choose the "Toggle Movable Windows" icon in the menu, you will activate the Movable Windows hack; this lets you move the big dialog boxes used by some Debian apps so you can get to the OK button.
Movable windows enabled:
With OpenOffice started, and selecting Options from the Tools menu, the pop-up window has its RHS missing in full-screen; and its RHS and bottom missing in window-screen. It seems that the pop-up is created only as large as the current window size. While it can be moved, it appears that there isn't anything off-screen. This is odd, as I'm sure it worked with a non-oo window, like you say.

Am I missing something?

armtwister 2009-03-25 12:54

Re: [Debian] ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian... OpenOffice Open /Save tip
 
I expect that this is common knowledge, but newbies (like me) may welcome this tip for Open/Save in OpenOffice.

By default, oo does not show hidden files and folders in its Open/Save dialogues. This is particularly painful with OS2008, as most of the folders seem to be hidden! (This is to allow translation of names for different locales, apparently).



The good news is that oo can be configured to show all the 'real' names, as follows:
  1. with oo started, click on Tools and then Options...
  2. expand the top item OpenOffice.org and click on General (NB: NOT General under Load/Save)
  3. under Open/Save dialogs untick Use OpenOffice.org dialogs
  4. Click OK (if you can't see the OK button, press Enter on the keyboard)
Open/Save windows now have a navigable path at the top, and life is much improved!

buurmas 2009-03-25 17:21

Re: [Debian] ANNOUNCE: Easy Debian Turbo-Charged Edition!
 
I tried this out b/c I ran out of space on my regular n810 memory & wanted an easy way to install more apps on my memory card & was interested in trying the full Firefox/Iceweasel & OpenOffice. Installation was amazingly smooth -- only tiny hiccup was that the "Debian Image Installer" item showed up under Games in the Application Launcher and not Extras. But it was "Easy" as advertised -- my thanks & kudos.

One surprise: Google Spreadsheets in Iceweasel is actually more responsive & more usable for me than in microB! Page load times seem comparable (although obviously Iceweasel's start-up is slower). But Google Spreadsheets under microB is frustrating for me b/c it keeps redrawing the page due to the Nokia auto-complete window that appears & disappears under the browser when you type. Also, when I type information into a spreadsheet cell with microB, the resulting edit box has scrollbars appear that completely cover up what I'm typing! Not so in Iceweasel. One the minus side, right-click menus popped up unexpectedly (I'll poke around more to see if there's a fix for this) & I frequently had to undo options I accidentally selected due to the lag between my selection & the program's response. There were other little things, of course -- those were the biggees for me.

Maybe I should submit the redrawing thing as a microB bug? Or both?


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