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lcuk 2008-10-21 05:06

Re: liqbase - in extras-devel
 
Walk before you can run.

the ui for dragging and resizing is not the same UI as scrolling.
The 2 actions are incompatible.

however I have pondered doing something like this from within a single day group :)

fpp 2008-10-21 07:59

Re: liqbase - in extras-devel
 
Yes, that would be super-useful. I tried (did, actually) taking notes yesterday evening at a school meeting. It took about ten screenfuls of scribbles, and now they're all mixed up (or maybe there's a better way I havent' seen ?)

lcuk 2008-10-21 08:11

Re: liqbase - in extras-devel
 
notes should not be mixed up on the graffiti wall

lcuk 2008-10-21 09:22

Re: liqbase - in extras-devel
 
who thinks it should be promoted?

fpp 2008-10-21 09:25

Re: liqbase - in extras-devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lcuk (Post 235292)
notes should not be mixed up on the graffiti wall

Well, from a computer's point of vue they probably are not :-)

But from a user's perspective it can get confusing. Consider this use case :

I start a new drawing and title it "school trip meeting".
It quickly fills up so I need to exit and start another. And another. And another.
Then I have to exit, go to graffiti wall, and edit a previous one because something I scribbled there has been added to or corrected. From there I can navigate between scribbles with the arrows to edit them too, which is convenient. But after a while of this there seems to be no logical order in which the 10+ "slides" appear...

Does this make sense ? Or am I just using it wrong ?

lcuk 2008-10-21 09:31

Re: liqbase - in extras-devel
 
heh fpp,

no you aren't but I think the difference between us is that I don't edit often.
I understand and it is something I will be dealing with specifically in later releases.

The arrows were added for a very specific case which was me needing to use it to present at the summit - i had to have multiple sheets available to me and be able to go through them, before then I couldnt flick around at all.

limitation noted.

Aisu 2008-10-21 10:48

Re: liqbase - in extras-devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lcuk (Post 235300)
who thinks it should be promoted?

/me raises hand and jumps around like a twit

:D

lcuk 2008-10-21 11:04

Re: liqbase - in extras-devel
 
tell you what, find the easter egg and I will promote it :)

clue:

its a path to the most requested required feature to date.

ask for more if required

fpp 2008-10-21 12:16

Re: liqbase - in extras-devel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lcuk (Post 235303)
heh fpp,
no you aren't but I think the difference between us is that I don't edit often.
I understand and it is something I will be dealing with specifically in later releases.
The arrows were added for a very specific case which was me needing to use it to present at the summit - i had to have multiple sheets available to me and be able to go through them, before then I couldnt flick around at all.
limitation noted.

Thanks, I feel better now :-)

I guess what I miss most is a way to create a multi-page/screen/slide from the initial "do some drawing" context, and navigate inside it like in Graffiti Wall mode, keeping things in original order.

In the Graffiti wall it would be useful to have a "view-only mode", eg double-tapping on a stamp would zoom it like in edit mode but with only the navigation arrows ?

lcuk 2008-10-21 12:31

Re: liqbase - in extras-devel
 
yes, thats what i was aiming for, but it was simpler to just open the editor though.

the editor always saves as new so the unexpected sideeffect is as you have discovered.

I've considered numerous times creating sketch sets and allowing pan/zoom on the documents but for 99% of the time its fine without.

I'll certainly be following it up and take your points into account for the next major version.


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after about 20 emails telling me the ed buttons still don't work, I know, they aren't wired properly yet, but something is happening somewhere inside the system:

http://liqbase.net/liq.20081021_131225.gary.scr.png


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