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allnameswereout 2008-10-23 13:52
Re: What is your religion?
 
Karel, you're running away from a problem.

This is the country I am living in:

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/5...16vr009jz6.jpg

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Originally Posted by tso (Post 235989)
i would say that the big diff between chirstianity and islam is that most of chirstianity had the extremism beaten out of it between 1000 and 1600 or there about.
In 1600 A.D. witches were still burned. But, most of Europe was converted to Christianity so in that sense you're right...

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on the other hand, islam is just hitting that age of strife (the religion got going around 900 iirc).
Its a younger religion which did same to regions around Saudia Arabia as Christians did around Rome: converting people & destroyin their old (fractured) belief systems.

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and while the "bending knees and wrapped women" style makes for a lot of press, there are as many of not more that deal with islam as most of europe deals with christianity. a starting point for a moral code, but not something that one follow by the letter.
We had wrapped women in 1600 in Europe. Voila

Also, some Christians still think in a 'us versus them' rhetoric. They still murder, too. For their own benefit, using their religion when it suits them. But in their religion it says murder is wrong...

TA-t3 2008-10-23 14:16
Re: What is your religion?
 
I'm starting to understand why posting about religion or politics are against the rules on most forums! :D

penguinbait 2008-10-23 14:30
Re: What is your religion?
 
Can you PLEASE take your chat with Karel to the PM's so we don't have to wade through it anymore.

PLEASE!

qwerty12 2008-10-23 14:36
Re: What is your religion?
 
Sigh, I don't think it's going to happen.
I'm Muslim but in all honesty, I don't really know much about my religion to argue back (I'm not religious, so I guess for me, it's like the argument in here before about if you are a Christian if you aren't religious) . So I'll get the popcorn and sit back :) (at the risk at sounding like I don't care, but I do.). I won't deny I'm finding it sad to hear all this but at the end of the day, I'm whoever I am regardless of religion and I guess that part of me is willing to listen (if this makes sense...).

Karel Jansens 2008-10-23 14:56
Re: What is your religion?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pycage (Post 235983)
Well, I heard that probably Jesus never existed as well. He's said to be personification of a savior character of some Jewish sects. Some guy named Paulus must have been so obsessed about this idea that he founded a new religion based on legends from these sects.
There's an interesting book on this theory. "The Christ Myth" by Arthur Drews, from about 100 years ago.

In the end it might turn out that the only religion founder who ever really existed was LaVey...
Oh, and Linus Torvalds of course! :D
You're conveniently forgetting L. Ron Hubbard.

And there actually is some (not much) confirmation about the existence of Jesus, contrary to Mohammed. But I do agree there's a lot of Messian "contamination" in the Gospels.

Karel Jansens 2008-10-23 14:57
Re: What is your religion?
 
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Originally Posted by dont (Post 235984)
Which one?
Why?
______

Karel Jansens 2008-10-23 14:58
Re: What is your religion?
 
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Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 235986)
I will ask again, since my thread appears to be hijacked.

"Can't we all just get along"

If you are a Christian talk about your Christian beliefs instead of trying to "educate" others on Islam. If you are a Muslim talk about your Islamic beliefs. If your an Athiest feel free to talk about why you don't believe, but don't act like people who do are stupid.

Seriously can't we have a conversation about our differences without resorting to name calling.

So I am asking, please, can't we all just get along. I did not intend this post to cause a religious war.
Do you nean you actually started this thread, expecting none of this? Are you really that naive?

Karel Jansens 2008-10-23 15:03
Re: What is your religion?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tso (Post 235989)
i would say that the big diff between chirstianity and islam is that most of chirstianity had the extremism beaten out of it between 1000 and 1600 or there about.
No, it wasn't beaten out. Christianity has been a very pro-science religion from the beginning (contrary to the asinine atheist propagancda fla°oating around), and Christians got rid of their extremists by themselves.

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on the other hand, islam is just hitting that age of strife (the religion got going around 900 iirc).
So we have to be nice to the ******ed muslims? I don't exactly recall that to be the party line against Hitler's atavistic fascism:

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and while the "bending knees and wrapped women" style makes for a lot of press, there are as many of not more that deal with islam as most of europe deals with christianity. a starting point for a moral code, but not something that one follow by the letter.
You mean, like in Turkey? Oh wait...

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question is, can the rest of the world hold out while islam gets its collective pubertal rebellious energy burned?
Why should the rest of the world accomodate these ******ed desert dwellers? They have to adapt to us, not the other way around.

Karel Jansens 2008-10-23 15:04
Re: What is your religion?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 235997)
Karel, you're running away from a problem.

This is the country I am living in:

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/5...16vr009jz6.jpg

In 1600 A.D. witches were still burned. But, most of Europe was converted to Christianity so in that sense you're right...

Its a younger religion which did same to regions around Saudia Arabia as Christians did around Rome: converting people & destroyin their old (fractured) belief systems.

We had wrapped women in 1600 in Europe. Voila

Also, some Christians still think in a 'us versus them' rhetoric. They still murder, too. For their own benefit, using their religion when it suits them. But in their religion it says murder is wrong...
You are so wrong it isn't even funny anymore. Go be a dhimmi then, see if I care.

Karel Jansens 2008-10-23 15:05
Re: What is your religion?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 236006)
Can you PLEASE take your chat with Karel to the PM's so we don't have to wade through it anymore.

PLEASE!
No.

You started it...

Ceterum censeo Islam delendam.


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