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Texrat 2008-11-25 17:18

Re: Defining the Maemo Community Council voting procedure
 
I do so admire your passive-aggressive approach there, General. ;)

GeneralAntilles 2008-11-25 17:20

Re: Defining the Maemo Community Council voting procedure
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 244549)
I do so admire your passive-aggressive approach there, General. ;)

I noticed that after I read it when I typed it up this morning, and it definitely wasn't intended. I was simply too lazy/tired to go back and rewrite it. :\

Jaffa 2008-11-25 18:03

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 244551)
I noticed that after I read it when I typed it up this morning, and it definitely wasn't intended. I was simply too lazy/tired to go back and rewrite it. :\

...cos he's working so hard on our behalf ;-)

GeneralAntilles 2008-11-25 18:13

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Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 244560)
...cos he's working so hard on our behalf ;-)

Yeah, something like that. . . . ;)

brokenladder 2008-11-25 19:56

Re: Defining the Maemo Community Council voting procedure
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 244471)
Are you going to write it up, or do I need to dive in, figure out what it is and write it up? (I'm fine either way, it is my responsibility to see it finished this month, so whatever needs to be done needs to be done. Just realize that my understanding of voting theory is next to none and anything I write up is likely to be flawed. ;))

that is awesome! either way, i think you guys will be at the forefront of election science, out of all the groups in the world. lewis carroll actually invented asset voting, though i don't know that it was ever used. and rrv (which i like to call reweighted score voting or proportional score voting, since the s.v. community recently switched from "range voting" to "score voting") has certainly never been used in any election of any significance (though i once used it in an inconsequential forum election, similar to this one, as a test).

i suspect there is still some other p.r. method out there that is even better, but i have no idea what it might be.

hope you guys go through with this, and share some of your experiences (and maybe even anonymous ballot data??) with the scorevoting.net folks, so we can further our election method research.

GeneralAntilles 2008-11-25 20:05

Re: Defining the Maemo Community Council voting procedure
 
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Originally Posted by brokenladder (Post 244593)
hope you guys go through with this, and share some of your experiences (and maybe even anonymous ballot data??) with the scorevoting.net folks, so we can further our election method research.

Would you be able to recommend some voting software that could either be modified to do what we need or act as a blueprint for new software?

Benson 2008-12-03 08:20

Re: Defining the Maemo Community Council voting procedure
 
Apologies for my lateness and forgetfulness. I've put a proposal up on the wiki, and welcome examination by others. If there are any errors or ambiguities, feel free to correct it or contact me.

dneary 2008-12-03 19:13

Re: Defining the Maemo Community Council voting procedure
 
A huge +1 on preferential voting as Quim prescribes. I do want to point out that there are several ways to count preferential votes, though, and they are not all equal. My favourite is single transferable vote, which I grew up with in Ireland and understand very well. If you ask me, Condorcet is a terrible counting method, because it's so hard to understand, and occasionally produces completely correct but very surprising results.

I do not like range voting (where you give each candidate a score between 0 and 100) - it is complicated for the voter, and complicated to count, giving you the worst of both worlds.

allnameswereout 2008-12-03 19:23

Re: Defining the Maemo Community Council voting procedure
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 244595)
Would you be able to recommend some voting software that could either be modified to do what we need or act as a blueprint for new software?

What is the status of this?

dneary 2008-12-03 19:39

Re: Defining the Maemo Community Council voting procedure
 
Here's software for counting STV: http://stv.sourceforge.net/

This should be pretty straightforward to use with Maemo, we simply need to dump the voting DB in a format that can be used as input for this - which is straightforward.

Dave.


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