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Since the new Internet Tablet will have the HSPA coonectivity (hence data connectivity) - how about calling it a "Nokia Data Tablet" - or to give it a shorter name - the "Nokia dPhone" or even maybe shorter as in "Nokia D1" (oh no, forget the last one).

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I like this uNIT approach. It's close to unix and and would make a killer numbering scheme if the devices were just uNIT1, uNIT2 etc. I'd love to be drooling over the next Nokia uNIT.

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If the purpose is to make it understandable to the non-geek public, boil it down to it's essence. "Nokia Pocket Computer"

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I was wondering who would be the first to start linking to the previous threads. ;)

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And I was wondering why your photo now exhibits a cheesy grin.

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texrat, don't you remember you're first time?

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No, but I hope the liquor vendor does.

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But, but... Texrat! Nobody won that thread. We already have a winner here.

And GA has a new photo because he's our Leader, and he needs to look pleasant and genial.

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How many times did you choke while saying that ^, or laugh afterward?

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texrat, you needn't worry. you're still the sexiest guy here. or else... would i still hang around here? waiting? longing?

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I'm starting a new trend. Get behind it or I'm having you blackballed. :p

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Only in my personal Hell would those 2 posts appear back-to-back...

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I've no problem with Internet Tablet. Nokia has already defined that gendra for the market. Invented words which need a marketing campain to define add another step to the marketing process that waists time and resources. If you must, why not nethand which has a route of netbook and relates to the differentiating pocketable size.

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Well, if Nokia gets it right I'm gonna call mine:

"The Shiznet"

But if Nokia gets it wrong I will probably stay with that theme and call it:

"Dookie"

Other names I'm considering:

right: "What They'll Find In My Cold Dead Hands"

wrong: "Doorstop", "Seth"*, "Vista"**

* An inside joke; no disrespect intended.

** Not sure I need to explain this one.

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He saw the comparison between him and Dr. Sheldon Cooper, the character in The Big Bang Theory, and decided he needed a new image!

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Oh, gah, just call it the "INAC" (it's not a cellphone ....), or we can spell it "iNAC" to annoy iPhone users .....

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Netpad is kinda cool...

More ideas (And I know we already have a winner, but I just want to play)
Handpad
Hand-pc
Hand Computer (HC)
Handtop
PicoPC
NanoPC
MicroC (micro computer)
MiniC

And I like the traditional tablet pc...

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I guess it's time to rap up this thread:
- my takeout from this thread is that "NetPad" is the strongest option discussed here. The storyline would go then "Maemo is software designed for Mobile NetPads". But, as said before, the word "NetPad" is still too Internet-centric while one can do so much more with the device that will be powered by Maemo 5. Smartphone and Internet Tablet are not an option. The search continues inside Nokia. Thanks for all the inspiring ideas!

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I think Eiffel has the right idea. Why invent a new word? "Pocket computer" is an intuitive, every-day kind of term ... and in ten years, we can just call it a "computer," because all computers will be that size :^) .

Also, not to complicate things even more, but it seems to me that the NIT almost deserves a name of its own. No one else is really making anything that's comparable, in terms of providing a pretty complete, full-featured personal computer, with an open software platform, in such a small package.

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simply call it "the pandora" *grin*




a pretty complete, full-featured personal computer, with an open software platform, in a small package.

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What software is it shipping with, again? I'll leave that up to you to figure out, since I don't want to spoil the surprise for Karel. :rolleyes:

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ED has gotten the MK2 board today and will post some Angström vids:D

btw, I like your new avatar GA:D

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Angstroem on NAND and Ubuntu for download on SD. VLC Player likely to be preinstalled. Applications available as self-contained ZIP archives. There is now talk of OpenPandora becoming an Ubuntu Partner.

Name for Nokia: "Hazbin".

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OT: karel, zips?
I thought zips were not the default file format for linux.
are the applications going to be installable with some recognised (semi) sane packaging system?

personally think "isgonnarock" or "wegotacamera" will be a better name :)

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The idea is that all packages are self-contained and will have no outside dependencies other than the libraries installed on NAND. It's not the most storage space-conscious idea, but it makes installing software on removable media very easy and idjit-proof (you should read some of the posters on the Pandora forum).

And it never really "rocked" for me, more like a bluesy feeling. Also, the camera, I've never used it. At all.

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I feel this is precisely the forward-thinking that Linux distros need. On every distro I've used, the filesystem is a spaghetti mess, with little order except through the myopic vision of the individual application developer. What results is a savage free-for-all of file placement, and one that requires esoteric scripts and complex applications to manage the mess!

I would gladly trade storage space for easy, consistent, fool-proof installs, especially considering that the amount of additional storage space required will likely be negligible compared to the sheer abundance of storage currently available.

Kudos to the pandora team for taking these pro-active steps to a persistent issue! I predicted a while back that the proliferation of linux devices would lead to new solutions to old problems, especially considering that these brave new platforms have no 'legacy' systems to satisfy. The sheer number of new platforms yield a good test-bed to see what works best -- the true benefit of a competitive environment.

All eyes now turn to the mobile; unlikely trend-setters.

YARR!
}:^)~

Capster

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changing the subject, I dread to think what will happen when a common linked library requires a security update.
You are left having to patch files in numerous places or not be protected at all.

swings and roundabouts chaps, a central repository of known good automatically updating code (ala extras) appears to work quite nicely as well as ensuring that the program you installed 6 months ago is still available even after XYZ developer ups and leaves for pastures new.

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An excellent point, and a draw-back of including libraries as part of the application package: the added complexity of maintaining security.

This raises an interesting question: what would you prefer? More security or simpler installs?


YARR!
}:^)~

Oh Captain!

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To answer two posts: On a portable device with only removable storage (I don't consider the NAND storage), I take ease of use over security every day.

Yes, because this has never happened on Maemo. Do you want me to list the number of applications that would run on ITOS2005 and ITOS2006 that I can't get to work on later OS versions? Do you? Because I can.

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In fact, you should be able to have both on the Pandora: With Ubuntu installed, you're basically getting a normal Ubuntu distro with normal package management. I would advize to keep all programs on the one SD card though, to avoid a horrible mess...

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You really can't include libraries used by more than one application in a "self-contained" deb.

As soon as you have the same file included in more than one package the package manager (the apt/dpkg part, not the application manager) will refuse to install the second package because of a conflict.
This makes perfect sense when you think about it. There's no way the package manager can know the difference between two authors accidentally using the same name and path for a library, or including the same library.

The other alternative, which is to use static linking (that is, including all the code inside the application) is also useless on a tablet due to the excessive memory requirement. It would totally suck.

In other words, just forget about the idea of including shared libraries as part of every package, it won't work. Not even for non-default libraries not included in the flash filesystem.

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I like "netpad", but if you want to communicate the idea of "does everything" then you either need to call it something geeky like "xxx computer" or something generic like "xxx pod." Any wordlets similar to "pod" that don't invoke Apple yet signify "generic device?"

GA, much better photo!

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"pod" is a do it all device?

the only thing i connect pod with is podcast and that darn hardrive/mediaplayer...

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/me hits tso on the head with an ipod

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Considering the amount of time people have these tiny devices in their hands and the variety of uses they make of it, I tend to see them evolving more as a 'friend' or even an 'alter ego'.

Science fiction always thought about technology becoming our friends or alter egos in the form of humanoid robots, something between R2D2 and C3PO. However, what was relevant about those robots was the fact that they could tell and show you many interesting things, travelling always with you and introducing you to new beings and new worlds.

I hope Maemo 55 will become my R2D2 replacement.

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Quim, remember my Nokia blog posts on this subject? You and ragnar both commented. Looks like I was on the right track... well, generally. ;)

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hmm, now that could be interesting. it would give me a reason to have my BT headset in my ear all the time, thats for sure ;)

altho i get a bad "clippy" vibe from it all...

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At 5:something am I didn't remember, no. :)

I don't know myself what is Peter after in this thread. ;)

Shops in malls have just a bunch of labels to play with and they are quite reluctant to increase or even rename labels: phones, PDAs, PCs, laptops, consoles, MP3 players, GPS navigators, digital cameras, fridges, microwaves...

Then you have a tech industry and blogosphere that simply love lavels and come up with things like UMPC, MIDs, tablets, Internet tablets and so on. Do we need or do we want another label? I'm glad Peter is here interested in this question, because thn I can concentrate on the open software, as usual. ;)

Something that also makes me think are those users that come to forums like this and talk about the N810 as "the Nokia". Will we see people in the future going to a shop and asking for "a Maemo"?

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imo, corp marketing love the labels, so that they can make their specific product stand out. bloggers on the other hand, specifically tech bloggers, more or less hate them. especially when there is a explosion of them around very similar products from different corps.