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quim,

could you please ensure we have holographic projector and stashed away light sabre (might change the form factor) in the devices please?

If we can't have tricorders I'll settle for an r2d2 clone anyday.

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You don't need to stash away the light sabre. The tablet becomes the hilt, and the sabre comes out of a port between the USB and A/V out port.

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Maemo is a cool name also. Maybe with some "extra"

Maemojo

Maemotion

Maewestmo

Maemortadel

Fannie Maemo
:p

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Now you definitely got me.

http://www.mortadeloyfilemon.com/vin...tas/3_2004.jpg

http://myfblog.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/el-zapatofono/ (warning: some Spanish cultural background needed)

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Nokia n1?)
Nokia's devices always used to have some strange serial numbers :) So people in stores always ask for "Nokia ####" or "n##"
So n1 will somehow arrange the device in product grid. Hi-def camera,awesome possibilities to share photos and watch vids/listen music. So it's "n-series" for sure. Much more "n" than n810 right now.
And "n1" because it will be the most advanced n-series device on the market (or not?), so it's like "number one". And it's just easy to remember.

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It is amazing that these threads go on for so long, even after they have been concluded, but equally how they meander as far from the point of the thread as possible.

It started as a thread about naming the genre of "internet tablet" devices. The fact that this genre exists independently of MIDs is in itself a testament to pointless genre marketing, and moreso when you consider that the Nokia range of internet tablets are the only devices that currently fit into the category.

I suppose then it is no surprise that people insist on using the word "nokia" in the genre name, if a little shortsighted. But I still find it amusing that people feel the need to come up with a name for an internet tablet, that is somehow better than "internet tablet" and arrive at "pocket computer". Perhaps we could just stick with "internet tablet" and then add "Nokia" to the front and we'd have our answer?

Oh hold on.

But this last post smacks the irony bell the hardest, and doesn't even attempt to come up with a name for the genre, but apparently just a new name for the n810.

It is a form of devolution.

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Hey, get off of our cloud Dr. Buzkill.

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Well, Netpad is the best I've heard in this thread, but I'm partial to handtop, so I'll throw it out there. It beats palmtop because it avoids confusion with Palm and with the HP200-like platforms last known as palmtops. It's also more accurate; a Palm (or other typical PDA) does get held in your palm, but an IT (or Pandora/200LX/etc.) doesn't really. And it does a pretty decent job of conveying the laptopiness, i.e. it's a general-purpose computer. Of course, I am wont to characterize it more brutishly as "a pocketable laptop", with way too many syllables. :)

In all fairness, NT is not really a CP/M derivative; it's a crock unto itself, but not that one. (And unless I'm quite mistaken, Origami/UMPC was all about NT5.1 (and later).)
That's more or less the whole PDA concept, which (at present) the tablets aren't so hot at. Fortunately, I don't want a friend/alter ego/assistant; I want a workbench for tinkering, and that way the N800 makes me quite happy.

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Laptop is an incorrect term because men shouldn't carry it on their lap because its bad for their sperm count. Or so the research says. Notebook is the term of these days.

As such, the term 'nettop' is also meaningless. How do you mean net? Network? As if a laptop doesn't have networking? Or a mobile phone?

The term 'handtop' does describe that you have a device in your hands. The device is small, yet powerful. I think handtop is a nice blend which -while not superaccurately- at least attempts to combine 2 concepts ('handheld' and 'laptop' or 'nettop').

BTW, 2 or 3 letter acronyms are very powerful.

And WNT is in not related to CP/M; (MS)DOS is. WNT has its own microkernel designed by DEC VMS engineers.

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Hmm, which sounds better? Which is more descriptive? Handtop or Handpad? Tough call.

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Joypad? :D

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Thats for Pandora :p

Tabletop? ;)

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hmm, handtop, is that not some company or other?

heh, a quick google turned up a handtop.com, but it seems to be a umpc blog ;)

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Answering eiffel:

> (1) Reassure us (in concrete terms, not just with soothing words) that
> the death of the "Internet Tablet" label doesn't mean that the device
> will lose it's strength as the current best pocketable internet tablet.

Offering the best Internet experience in a pocketable device is and will be a core mission of the Maemo platform. Look the 4 boxes at http://maemo.org/intro/platform/ - this is all about.

Maemo 5 strives to push the Internet Tablet paradigm forward, not somewhere else. All the characteristics that make you like an Internet Tablet remain there.

But more is added, and at some point the "Internat Tablet" label doesn't serve well the purpose of describing the products Maemo 5 is made for. There is nothing you should worry about changing labels, since you know the core product already. Labels are done for those that still don't know the product and for those needing to categorize (media, sales and etc).

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So in other words, if I understand Quim correctly, "internet tablet" is only a subset of what the new device will be. So Nokia found that the name "internet tablet" is not well-suited for marketing anymore.

In my opinion, for power users, "internet tablet" has always only been a subset of what the tablets are capable of. Now Nokia seems to realize that fact and wants to bring the additional capabilities to the end-users. I guess, for us, the category of the device won't change much. But it'll be a whole new experience for regular users who have lived with an "internet tablet" so far only.

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And hopefully a fresh signal to the regular users that never heard about an "Intenet Tablet", and/or wouldn't quite understand the potential if they would hear that label for the first time. Add media and marketing people to the rationale as well.

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It's funny: I made that argument so long ago in my corporate blog but it was met with resistance then. My how things change...

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OK, my translation: "media and marketing people" can't tell the internet from the web, and it's easier to rename the device to reflect the other aspects of internet connectivity like media streaming and communicating... and then there's the GPS (provided it works this time around), for navigation.. so they should call it the Nokia XpressMedia Communavicator.

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I think this whole thread is about nothing. It does not matter what term Nokia marketing will use for the new tablet. The only thing that matters is the actual functionality of the device. For obvious corporate reasons, Quim can't disclose what the device will look or act like, so there is no point trying to make him violate his NDA. Also, words "pushing tablet paradigm forward" (aside from using the dreadful p-word) mean absolutely nothing from the technical point of view. They may mean that the tablet stays the tablet, only becomes better. On ther other hand, these words may also mean a different device that does not have much to do with the current tablet (like a Canola-like device). Trying to figure out what it will be is premature.

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... but fun! :D

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Are we trying to give it a new name or a new tag line to describe the function ?

For example the 'G1' or the 'Palm Pre' names doens't mean anything at all. It by itself doesnt convey any meaning or description of the device. Its just so that we happen to know that they are both smartphones. The name iPhone does of course convey its essence in a way.

So in that sense do we want to rebrand the Internet Tablet type of device in a category name - like MID, Netbook, Laptop, handheld etc, or do we want to give it a Brand name - and not a category name ?

As I see it, the N900 (whatever it will turn out to be) is neither a Netbook (as that is already kind of hard-defined in people's mind), not a smartphone (unless they do put in GSM Calling functions as well), its not a handheld only (and thats too generic), nor an MID.

So in that sense we can choose a category name for a new category of device bought out by Nokia - which allows Internet calling, data, Internet enabled and all the other goodies of Maemo 5.

Or we can give it a brand name - as in Nokia Post or N1 (ok that was cheesy) - which by itself will not convey any meaning.

So as a category of device how about calling it a Nokia HandBook (an eHandBook) - a handy electronic device which does many things. Or a brand name - "Nokia Connect"

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If you're looking for a new, generic name to replace "Internet Tablet," "MID," etc. as a general nickname for this type of device:

How about "netpad?"

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"Netpad" was previously suggested by Capt'n Corrupt in post #39 of this very thread.

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The humor value of this post continues to increase.

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I believe Psion Teklogix also owns that name, so good luck Nokia on trying to swipe that one.

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Indeed. The original version was basically a netBook without a keyboard. There were later versions which - like the netBook Pro - used Windows CE variants.

http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/big/netpaddocking.jpg

Both can still be bought from Pulster:

http://www.pulster.de/engl/index.htm...gix_netpad.htm

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Like I said the first time, Nokia can probably name it anything they want, they'll probably just have to pay somebody a bit of money.

EDIT: It looks, from Jaffa's link, like the netpad ran/runs Symbian, which would make it even easer for Nokia to apply some gentle arm-twisting.

EDIT2: netpad.com is for sale by a reseller.

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True. Doesn't sound like Nokia, but then they've very few named communication devices IIRC. Personally, I like "netpad", but it's probably a bit technical sounding - then again, it fits with the ever popular "netbook".

Well, EPOC R5 - the precursor to Symbian/S60/UIQ etc. Given Teklogix's swift killing of any Symbian/EPOC based devices post-merger and the killing of things like the Linux netBook Pro, I'm not sure how much sway Nokia'll have :-/

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I tell everyone it's an "internet tablet" or a "mobile internet device", "tablet" for short, and "portable pc gadget thing" for those who don't know what I'm talking about.

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If we can't use "netpad," let's use "dpad." Ouch.

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I was thinking of borrowing some well known communicating device name from SciFi because that might be instantly recognizable and get the hype factor up among geeks. Then I realized Nokia already did this with the communicator :p

If Babylon 5 would have been the success it deserved, comlink would be a great name... or how about calling the next tablets Nokia Tricorders? :D

edit: on a second thought, these communicators were actually pretty basic in their functions... are there any super advanced tablets in scifi anyway?

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Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle's 1974 novel "the Mote In God's Eye" featured pocket tablet computers, linked to planetary networks, but they were so ubiquitous and "normal" that they didn't even have a special name anymore.

Come to think of it, those tablets featured true handwriting recognition, an impressive level of operating system AI and high durability, so even if they did have a name, it probably would have been "Newton". Or possibly "Hawking"...

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I liked Netpad, but maybe it sounds a bit diminutive, like a netbook with stunted growth.

I like tricorder, except it's kind of a complicated (and inaccurate) term, and is only significant to Trekkies, and not inherently very descriptive.

However, it is possible to appeal to Trekkies and not be obscure and nerdy with Nettreker.

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Well, I started to think about ways I could use a Maemo 5 device: web, IM, VoIP, PIM, etc. It became clear to me that this thing is about "keeping in touch" with your life, so I offer this:

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Nokia urban product line:

First product (previously known as N900): U90 media tablet

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Likewise in Douglas Adams' The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (handheld computer known by the same name) and Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age (handheld computer known as A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer, or Primer for short.). Of course, there are more... ;)

Tim

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B.R.A.I.N (acronym to be filled in by consensus)

(& variants) nBRAIN, PortaBrain etc.


I have referred to my PDAs (Visor Edge-T3-N800) as my Brain since I got the first one.

ie To my Wife: "If it's not in my BRAIN, I won't remember it" ;)

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Do you know of any Newton-like devices in scifi that predate "Mote"? Arthur Clarke e.g. went a totally different route with his minisec in "Imperial Earth" (calculator-style keyboard input, with keys changing according to the application, supplemented with minimal voice control).

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I think the next Maemo device should have "DON'T PANIC" inscribed in large, friendly letters on the cover.

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No, thank you, I wouldn't like my device being associated to the wibrain