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SD69 2008-11-24 22:53

Re: My prediction: Nokia Internet Tablet will falter in 2009 and beyond
 
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Originally Posted by Rebski (Post 244277)
I am not a programmer however I am fully prepared to pay for a suite of applications comparable to functionality to those on my Zaurus.
What more do you suggest that I do?

Same here. Not only would I pay for the software, I was considering sponsoring development of a PIM until Nokia personnel asked for input.

Rebski 2008-11-25 00:21

Re: My prediction: Nokia Internet Tablet will falter in 2009 and beyond
 
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But the Zaurus wasn't the fastest, and most lacked on-board wireless communications.
Of course that is correct, I wasn't stating otherwise. I went for the N800 for its obvious hardware superiority

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If you want Korganizer and Kontact install my KDE.
First off, thank you for your amazing work on KDE.

Actually I only use the Calendar function of KAPi and this is replicated very nicely on the N800 by GPE Calendar topped off with TahitiBob’s syc work with Google Calendar.

What I want are most of the other apps which I listed but these are custom made for the handheld screen and not big screen apps scaled down to fit.

Comparable apps were not developed for the N770 nor for the N800, neither has the so called consumer friendly N810 stimulated any such interest either.

Yet all the talk is about the N900. Can a platform really survive without a healthy vibrant software developing community?

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Not only would I pay for the software, I was considering sponsoring development of a PIM until Nokia personnel asked for input.
It beggars belief that a fully fledged set of PIM apps was never part of the device in the first instance. When I first bought my N800 I really expected this to be just around the corner and I held that faith until about 6 months ago. From what you say, it is not your fault either.

I would still pay for these apps even now because there is a lot of life left in the N800 and this would tide me over until the 2nd generation MIDs surface.

Initially before purchase, I did approach tkc to gauge their interest in the Internet Tablet platform but they could see little future in it. Frankly, at this moment I can't say that they were wrong.

tso 2008-11-25 00:26

Re: My prediction: Nokia Internet Tablet will falter in 2009 and beyond
 
many of the entries on the list looks like tcl/tk based apps. i wonder how easy it would be to port them after a working tcl/tk port was done (similar to python)...

Rebski 2008-11-25 01:22

Re: My prediction: Nokia Internet Tablet will falter in 2009 and beyond
 
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many of the entries on the list looks like tcl/tk based apps. i wonder how easy it would be to port them after a working tcl/tk port was done (similar to python)...
The tkc apps are closed source. That in itself may be an obstacle, do you think?

tso 2008-11-25 03:15

Re: My prediction: Nokia Internet Tablet will falter in 2009 and beyond
 
ah, i just assumed that the opening tk was a reference to tcl/tk.

and closed source? ugh...

Rebski 2008-11-25 12:05

Re: My prediction: Nokia Internet Tablet will falter in 2009 and beyond
 
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i just assumed that the opening tk was a reference to tcl/tk.
Yes, sorry I didn't understand your tcl/tk reference.

theKompany.com (tkc) made available a plethora of Zaurus apps,
http://www.thekompany.com/embedded/

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and closed source? ugh...
They charged for the apps - not much on average $15 - but presumably felt the need to protect their investment.

allnameswereout 2008-11-25 21:18

Re: My prediction: Nokia Internet Tablet will falter in 2009 and beyond
 
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Originally Posted by Rebski (Post 244441)
The tkc apps are closed source. That in itself may be an obstacle, do you think?

No; they are all ported to ARM. So it shouldn't be too hard to run them on N8x0. They also have some demos available for some of the applications.

And I'm pretty sure a lot of people would pay $15 for a PIM application which Just Works.

But Zaurus ran Qtopia by default. All these applications are old Qtopia applications (akin to Qt 2.0 times) so probably out of date.

TheKompany.com doesn't port 'em to NIT because they see no commercial benefit for other reasons...

ace 2008-11-25 21:24

Re: My prediction: Nokia Internet Tablet will falter in 2009 and beyond
 
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 244625)
No; they are all ported to ARM. So it shouldn't be too hard to run them on N8x0. ...

That's like saying a Windows application should run on Linux, since Linux runs on x86 CPUs.

Rebski 2008-11-25 22:24

Re: My prediction: Nokia Internet Tablet will falter in 2009 and beyond
 
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TheKompany.com doesn't port 'em to NIT because they see no commercial benefit
Exactly.

I understand that they started to make apps available for the N770. The first and only effort was tkcPanels http://www.thekompany.com/embedded/tkcpanels/index.php3

From what I could see, there were not alone in this. Several developers supported the N770 and then stopped when the N800 arrived.
e.g. http://www.dejadesktop.com/

Possibly to do with incompatibilities in the two platforms?

It must be hard for a small software company to commit resources to a project and then see the goal posts moved shortly afterwards. But this is conjecture on my part, I am sure others on this forum will be more knowledgeable on the issues of making N770 apps work on the N800.

Whatever, it is clear that the initial surge of enthusiasm for the NIT platform quickly died.

slingster 2009-01-08 22:09

Re: My prediction: Nokia Internet Tablet will falter in 2009 and beyond
 
Nokia discontinues N810 Wimax...as predicted. The Internet Tablet is reaching its end. RIP.


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