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GeneralAntilles 2009-01-30 18:58

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 261032)
Does the code support mutli-touch or is it something which cannot be deduced from the code?

As I've said before, it will be a resistive touchscreen.

fragos 2009-01-30 20:05

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by Frank Banul (Post 261022)
I respectfully disagree, the light sensor allowed me to get rid of the brightness adjustment in my status bar because I never need to use it anymore. The sensor placement isn't optimal as I do sometimes cover it inadvertently but I really do appreciate the sensor.

Ditto here. As someone that uses their tablet both inside and out this keeps the tablet readable. I also wonder if this feature contributes to longer battery life.

TheRealBubba 2009-01-30 21:46

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 261061)
As I've said before, it will be a resistive touchscreen.

O.T. question: So I read the wikipedia page on resistive / capacative touch screens. I'm wondering what my thinkpad X61 tablet is? The touchscreen is called MultiView/MultiTouch, but only works with the special stylus, not with finger/other object touch. Just curious...

GeneralAntilles 2009-01-30 21:49

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by TheRealBubba (Post 261089)
O.T. question: So I read the wikipedia page on resistive / capacative touch screens. I'm wondering what my thinkpad X61 tablet is? The touchscreen is called MultiView/MultiTouch, but only works with the special stylus, not with finger/other object touch. Just curious...

Same tech the Wacom tablets use. Sometimes they combine that with a resistive panel as well.

qole 2009-01-30 22:54

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Originally Posted by fanoush (Post 260972)
Here is small update...
- internal slot is indeed eMMC

I had to google for eMMC, and then I had to discard some of the first hits. I finally got some good info.

So the "internal slot" is going to be not a "slot" at all? This sounds like the RX-51 will have the same configuration as the N810... So that very likely means no full size SD card slot either, only a mini or a micro.

Hey, SDHC cards are not dead, you know! Most of the current generation HD camcorders are using them, so I see a few more years of these cards being available...

GeneralAntilles 2009-01-30 23:42

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 261101)
So the "internal slot" is going to be not a "slot" at all? This sounds like the RX-51 will have the same configuration as the N810... So that very likely means no full size SD card slot either, only a mini or a micro.

Not exactly surprising. ;) It matters a lot less, though, because I suspect the built-in card will be in the ballpark of 32GB.

Benson 2009-01-31 03:00

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 261101)
I had to google for eMMC, and then I had to discard some of the first hits. I finally got some good info.

So the "internal slot" is going to be not a "slot" at all? This sounds like the RX-51 will have the same configuration as the N810... So that very likely means no full size SD card slot either, only a mini or a micro.

As I see it, regular vs. mini is a totally separate issue; it's quite possible that the backlash has been noisy enough to encourage a single full-SD slot. But if I had to put money down, I'd go with microSD. Nobody uses miniSD, so I'd hope they get rid of it, and micro is preferable if they're trying to keep the size down. This time, they're adding substantial hardware (HD camera), so even without another whole tablet shrink (like the N800->N810), they could need that space. (Personally, I'd rather they go back to N800 size, put the d-pad on the face, and at least one full-SD. And maybe a second d-pad (or analog nub) on the right side...)

SD69 2009-01-31 03:26

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by Benson (Post 261136)
As I see it, regular vs. mini is a totally separate issue; it's quite possible that the backlash has been noisy enough to encourage a single full-SD slot. But if I had to put money down, I'd go with microSD. Nobody uses miniSD, so I'd hope they get rid of it, and micro is preferable if they're trying to keep the size down. This time, they're adding substantial hardware (HD camera), so even without another whole tablet shrink (like the N800->N810), they could need that space. (Personally, I'd rather they go back to N800 size, put the d-pad on the face, and at least one full-SD. And maybe a second d-pad (or analog nub) on the right side...)

The thing I hate about micro-SD is that you need the adapter to input it directly into most all readers and printers.

davadio 2009-01-31 04:17

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 261110)
Not exactly surprising. ;) It matters a lot less, though, because I suspect the built-in card will be in the ballpark of 32GB.

That sounds great! I hope so.

fragos 2009-01-31 04:39

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Any storage card that is so small it can't be removed easily with your fingers isn't practical. The microSD in my phone can't be removed without a pair of tweezers. I'd rather have a device a little larger to be able to use a card that's handlable.

sachin007 2009-01-31 04:46

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Thoughtfix thinks that the new tablet will be announced on feb 16th at the mobile world congress. Can any one with insider knowledge comment on this?

http://tabletblog.com/2009/01/fourth...leased-on.html

i hope he is right.

qole 2009-01-31 04:50

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That Feb 16 date would be right in line with the fact that prices have suddenly dropped on the N810 and I noticed that prices on the N800 dropped two weeks before the N810 announcement...

daperl 2009-01-31 06:19

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 261149)
That Feb 16 date would be right in line with the fact that prices have suddenly dropped on the N810 and I noticed that prices on the N800 dropped two weeks before the N810 announcement...

How much time passed between the n810 announcement and the n810 first being available?

Benson 2009-01-31 06:34

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 261148)
Thoughtfix thinks that the new tablet will be announced on feb 16th at the mobile world congress. Can any one with insider knowledge comment on this?

No, they can't. Even denying plausible rumors would be bad, as it sets a precedent to interpret silence on future rumors as an indicator of accuracy.

But it does seem quite likely to me (with absolutely no insider knowledge).

qole 2009-01-31 07:00

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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 261159)
How much time passed between the n810 announcement and the n810 first being available?

The prices of the N800 dropped right around the first week of October 2007, and the N810 was announced October 17th.

When did the N810 become generally available? I seem to recall that it was late November to early December 2007... Google is very quick to give me an announcement date, but very reluctant to give me a date for when it started to appear on store shelves.

lma 2009-01-31 07:35

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 261162)
When did the N810 become generally available? I seem to recall that it was late November to early December 2007...

Sounds about right. I ordered mine on 30/11/2007, as soon as I found a shop that had it in stock.

chlettn 2009-01-31 09:40

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
Isn't it a bit early to announce it on the 16th, when the SDK isn't even in alpha status yet and they're still working on the UI? The last few tablets were available pretty quick after the announcements (or pretty much at the same time, in the N800's case).

Would be cool though :)

Regarding storage: I'm willing to be we'll see a decent amount of internal memory (at the very least 8GB, probably 16, maybe 32) and an external microSD slot.

Benson 2009-01-31 10:24

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by chlettn (Post 261171)
Isn't it a bit early to announce it on the 16th, when the SDK isn't even in alpha status yet and they're still working on the UI? The last few tablets were available pretty quick after the announcements (or pretty much at the same time, in the N800's case).

Yeah, but with the price cuts, I'd say it's likely to be announced soon, and have a longer announcement/shipping delay than previously, on par with the N97.

lardman 2009-01-31 12:07

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Isn't it a bit early to announce it on the 16th, when the SDK isn't even in alpha status yet and they're still working on the UI?
Yeah but with the N97 (I think) they announced it quite a long way before it was released to build some hype. Same might be true of the soon-not-to-be-called-internet-tablet range, as there's not been anything for a while, to make sure they stay on the radar?

Just a wishful guess of course :)

TheTree 2009-01-31 18:38

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 261162)
TWhen did the N810 become generally available?

According to Engadget, it was on store shelves Nov. 19, 2007.

chlettn 2009-01-31 18:50

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Originally Posted by lardman (Post 261183)
Yeah but with the N97 (I think) they announced it quite a long way before it was released to build some hype. Same might be true of the soon-not-to-be-called-internet-tablet range, as there's not been anything for a while, to make sure they stay on the radar?

Maybe - it's just that they always announced smartphones WAY ahead of release, and all the tablets were announced closer to the availability date...
But then again, a little buzz certainly wouldn't hurt right now, and knowing the hardware specifications and form-factor of the RX-51 might help developers think of useful apps ahead of release :)

And anyway, what else would Nokia show at MWC - after all, by far the most important trade show of this business? Another high-end Nseries smartphone is unlikely as the N97 isn't available yet, and I somehow doubt it's going to be only Eseries, or only mid-end devices :)

sachin007 2009-01-31 19:29

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
The rx-51 is coming next month.. here is proof

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...31&postcount=7

mobiledivide 2009-01-31 20:18

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
I remember reading on some other forum that the guys over at Mobile-Review (Russian phone site) had reason to believe that Nokia would unveil a new Nokia high end device based on Maemo platform at MWC. That is definitely exciting news, after seeing the Palm Pre and the power of that new OMAP processor I am looking forward to seeing a demonstration of Maemo running with all that processing power.
It sounds like there is no support for high definition output however, just regular video out which is disappointing, I was really hoping for support for at least vga out and maybe even DVI/HDMI.

qgil 2009-01-31 20:42

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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 261232)
The rx-51 is coming next month.. here is proof

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...31&postcount=7

Sorry but that misquote (from me) is not a proof of anything.

mullf 2009-01-31 20:46

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We believe you. ;-)

qgil 2009-01-31 20:52

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Originally Posted by mullf (Post 261249)
We believe you. ;-)

Don't blame me later if you don't. ;)

benny1967 2009-01-31 21:02

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
if it's true that a new device will be presented in 2 weeks - where are the traditional "leaked images"? don't they usually appear a few weeks before the event? come on, don't break the tradition. ;)

YoDude 2009-01-31 23:24

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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 261253)
if it's true that a new device will be presented in 2 weeks - where are the traditional "leaked images"? don't they usually appear a few weeks before the event? come on, don't break the tradition. ;)


Also... isn't there public records of FCC approval first.

>>Example

I zealous fanboy could:

1. Calculate the average lead time from FCC approval to public release for the past tablets.

2. Search the FCC data base daily for an approval announcement for the new device.

3. Add the average lead time time that they calculated in step 1 to the announcement date.

4. Post a prediction on the forum.

5. Become a legend in their own mind.

:D

https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/...atusSearch.cfm

sachin007 2009-02-01 00:41

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I think we need to wait for the bossa conference on march 6th

As per the wiki

"Plan for a presentation in FOSDEM FOSDEM about Fremantle running in the BeagleBoard. "

qole 2009-02-01 08:27

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by Benson (Post 261172)
Yeah, but with the price cuts, I'd say it's likely to be announced soon, and have a longer announcement/shipping delay than previously, on par with the N97.

I'm with Benson on this. Longer lead time on this, partly because the SDKs tell us so much about the device it is kind of silly to keep on hiding the details, and partly because we know that they've got the devices in-house looking pretty much finished. So I say we'll get some kind of announcement, maybe even a picture or even a quick glimpse at a prototype, but I'm sure there'll be nothing on store shelves until, at least, after the beta SDK.

jnack95 2009-02-01 10:35

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 261247)
Sorry but that misquote (from me) is not a proof of anything.

It doesn't really matter...there will be plenty of exciting news from the other companies if Nokia decides it doesn't want to play yet:) I've been an early adopter of the tablets since the 770 and am excited to see what they're cooking but it's been more than a fat minute since the 800. There is some exciting linux-based stuff coming from HTC and Palm that I am just as excited to see.

qole 2009-02-01 17:13

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by jnack95 (Post 261331)
There is some exciting linux-based stuff coming from HTC and Palm that I am just as excited to see.

What? Where? There's another ARM-based device that will be able to run OpenOffice without hacking the OS?

Thesandlord 2009-02-01 17:30

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 261389)
What? Where? There's another ARM-based device that will be able to run OpenOffice without hacking the OS?

qole, I am disappointed... very disappointed...

The PANDORA!

But anyway, they do run Linux, but not "stock" Linux like Maemo.
Android and WebOS need people to make new apps, but Maemo's "stock" distribution is a blessing and a curse. More ports, but less optimization. I hope RX-51 will be better in this respect.

sjgadsby 2009-02-01 18:03

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 261390)
The PANDORA!

* Some assembly required. Pandora hardware not included. Electrical engineering degree sold separately. Must be 18 or older to order.

Benson 2009-02-01 18:05

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 261397)
Quote:

The PANDORA!
* Some assembly required. Pandora hardware not included. Electrical engineering degree sold separately. Must be 18 or older to order.

Does it come with its own box?

lardman 2009-02-01 18:09

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
Assuming it ever arrives ;)

Karel Jansens 2009-02-01 18:31

Re: What we do realistically see in the RX-51
 
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 261397)
* Some assembly required. Pandora hardware not included. Electrical engineering degree sold separately. Must be 18 or older to order.

Now that's really not fair. The Pandora has been expressly developed to be as newbie-friendly as possible.

Karel Jansens 2009-02-01 18:33

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Originally Posted by Benson (Post 261399)
Does it come with its own box?

Yes, but you cannot open it.

...

Let it go, guys. Just about every box joke[*] has been thrown on the Panda forums.

____[*] And yes, that includes those box jokes.

fpp 2009-02-01 19:37

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Do they have all the Panda jokes too ? :)

Karel Jansens 2009-02-01 20:02

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Originally Posted by fpp (Post 261414)
Do they have all the Panda jokes too ? :)

Are there panda jokes?


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