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daperl 2009-03-18 23:52

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 272823)
This means an icon in app manager ;) Nothing more.

Oh, I thought he figured out how to change the icon status in the app switcher. I eventually had to shelve it, but it was buggin' the sh*t out of me: how does microb overlay status and favicons on the globe. <Robocop voice>If anyone knows the whereabouts of such code, you're cooperation would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.</Robocop voice>

Again, great work. From Jaffa and qwerty12 also.

tso 2009-03-19 01:52

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
ugh, thanks to a confusion between the locally installed deb and the one sitting in qole's repo, i was using preview 5!


problem basucally is that both debs id themselves as 0.3, with no follow up number. end result is that app manager tries to give priority to the one on the repo!!!

Laughing Man 2009-03-19 02:16

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Haven't found it yet (searching through this thread), but is there any easy way to import bookmarks? I have some bookmarklets I would like to use and I don't think it's possible to *star* them.

tso 2009-03-19 02:46

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
not yet. but when the the work on the bookmark manager/sidebar menu gets done, maybe.

heelio 2009-03-19 04:40

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
I have also noticed a (minor?) problem when saving a file whose name has spaces in it. It seems to want to display the ascii value of the space character rather than the space itself (I think it's like %20% or similar) which results in some awfully long filenames, and I believe messed up a download or two for me before I figured out what was happening. I can edit the name to something else; question is, why do I need to?

Bundyo 2009-03-19 05:52

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 272844)
ugh, thanks to a confusion between the locally installed deb and the one sitting in qole's repo, i was using preview 5!


problem basucally is that both debs id themselves as 0.3, with no follow up number. end result is that app manager tries to give priority to the one on the repo!!!

I guess I will be changing the versioning then :)

Bundyo 2009-03-19 05:59

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matan (Post 272830)
Can you make it a bit more "non-touch-screen friendly"?

What do you mean?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matan (Post 272830)
Adding shortcuts to the menus is easy, but then I wanted to set Space to scroll one page down as in the default browser, but could not find how to do it.

If you're talking about editing the code, tearwebview.vala is handling touch and key presses. The menu items are executed by actions and will be removed soon to be replaced with direct key checks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matan (Post 272830)
Did you write lines 87-377 of tear.vala? Can you give a few hints on how to read them?

This is a stripped down core of Mootools.
http://www.mootools.net/core

Un27Pee 2009-03-19 08:18

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
app manager notified an update that was nice even though it seems to carry the same version, well here is some observations it is difficult to scroll some sites unless i use the scrollbar but holding and dragging it reloads the page making it difficult to scroll down, the close and save all feature in nice, tear openned gmail with multiple inbox mirob could not open it, when navigating gmail and itt i found the keyboard space bar unresponsive i had to use the physical one realy posting from the tablet. overall the improvements are very great thanks

skatebiker 2009-03-19 09:27

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
The Tear browser (webkit) does not support cookies generated by a javascript.
This is THE ONLY (and the webkit version of Microb which uses the same webkit lib) browser where it does not work.
All browsers I used: FF 3, IE, Opera, Safari, mobile browsers like Opera Mobile, the (webkit !) browser built in Nokia phones do support this.
So this still has to be fixed.

munky261 2009-03-19 12:46

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Neither Tear or microb will load the google voice pages well, and the contacts page in particular, hardly at all....cant use anything on it.

munky261 2009-03-19 14:05

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
So, is the version thats showing in updates from qole's repo newer? When I installed tear, I d/l the most recent deb.

tso 2009-03-19 15:59

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
i would say that unless qole comes here and says he has uploaded the latest, turn his repo of for now to avoid confusion.

daperl 2009-03-19 16:38

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 272968)
i would say that unless qole comes here and says he has uploaded the latest, turn his repo of for now to avoid confusion.

I have to agree: Bundyo needs write access to that repository. Period. Two periods. If he already does have access, that would make the 2nd mirror; two-more than most. And that should be enough I would think.

qole 2009-03-19 16:38

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
I am coming here to say I've got the latest version (0.3 pre 6) in my repo. Any time Bundyo posts here saying he's updated, I immediately upload that version to the repo.

When Bundyo posted this, I immediately went to my repo and uploaded that version.

Have there been problems? It looks like Uncle Pee got it no problem...

But yes. The versioning needs a bit of work. 0.3-pre6 would be better than just 0.3

Bundyo 2009-03-19 16:48

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
It is 0.3-6, which apt-get should/would handle just fine :P Anyway, I'll rename the next one (or maybe even this one if you prefer). Though I don't know if 0.3-pre6 would update 0.3-6 or the other way round :D

qole 2009-03-19 16:56

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
For some reason, it only shows as 0.3 in the Application Manager. There's no mention of the -6, which is confusing people. "Should I update this? It looks the same as the last version... 0.3..."

qwerty12 2009-03-19 17:00

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Makes sense :/:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tear's debian/control
Version: 0.3


daperl 2009-03-19 17:04

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 272980)
When Bundyo posted this, I immediately went to my repo and uploaded that version.

Sorry to be blunt, but if you're manually doing this you're a single point of failure in a process that you're currently not really a part of. It's noble but brittle. I'm invoking Murphy's law here and challenging you to fix it. It's a bad president precedent.

fpp 2009-03-19 17:25

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
I upgraded from qole's repo this morning and definitely got the latest rev, as it connected to the network automatically, like a proper browser should. This was my pet peeve with the previous ones, thanks Bundyo :-)

I would say that until the various prerequisites to promote Tear to maemo-extras-something are fulfilled, qole is doing the general public a service. An exception that confirms the rule, and all that.

qole 2009-03-19 17:37

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Well, hopefully I won't have to do this for much longer; Bundyo has made it clear that he is planning to push things to Extras soon, especially now that Jaffa has made things all Vala friendly.

If putting Tear in my repository during the early development days is causing more problems than it solves, I can remove it. I made the repository (1) as a place to put my beta-level packages, and (2) to collect the "lost apps of ITT" that get posted here but nowhere else. Tear is a bit of an exception; it is in Garage, but isn't in a repository yet. People were having issues installing it, so I thought a repo would ease the install process.

tso 2009-03-19 17:58

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
i guess i got the issue because i installed manually while you where copying it over to your repo and updating, qole. but funny enough, app manager thought the existing pre5 was a update to my recently installed pre6, so when i hit update inside app manager i ended up actually downgrading.

its a one of those "what just happened moments", and i only noticed it by the missing "undo" in the windows sub-menu...

possessedskier 2009-03-19 19:17

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 272998)
... If putting Tear in my repository during the early development days is causing more problems than it solves, I can remove it. ...

Qole: I appreciate your efforts so please don't remove it. The update worked great for me. It's quicker than watching this thread for an update then doing the download and install manually. Thanks.

tso 2009-03-19 19:35

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
yea, i guess it should be safe now. sorry to scare everyone like that...

lets just say that if you install pre6 manually and then get a update notice about 0.3 afterwards, maybe its time to refresh app manager. :)

fpp 2009-03-19 20:53

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 272998)
I made the repository (1) as a place to put my beta-level packages, and (2) to collect the "lost apps of ITT" that get posted here but nowhere else. Tear is a bit of an exception; it is in Garage, but isn't in a repository yet. People were having issues installing it, so I thought a repo would ease the install process.

...and I can confirm you were right in thinking so :-)

sachin007 2009-03-20 20:16

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
This tear browser puts nokia's browser to shame. i absolutely love it. started using it as the default browser. only thing i miss is the font size. how do i change the font size in tear'

thanks

fpp 2009-03-20 20:43

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Same here. Now that everything mostly works I tend to use it more and more, and the main problem now is that writing on any pages refuses to zoom, and stays too tiny to read comfortably. Tear really needs a "forced minimum font size" like microb has, else my eyes will fill with tears :-)

tso 2009-03-20 20:47

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 273332)
This tear browser puts nokia's browser to shame. i absolutely love it. started using it as the default browser. only thing i miss is the font size. how do i change the font size in tear'

thanks

zoom keys...

Sho 2009-03-20 21:25

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Hrm, after I added qole's repository for Tear, I also got a libpurple0 upgrade from it, which seems to have broken Jabber in Pidgin.

tso 2009-03-20 21:45

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
seems tear is unable to make the tablet connect to a existing wifi network, if one use the bookmark sidebar applet. using the internal bookmark menu, or the dashboard works fine tho.

qole 2009-03-20 21:55

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sho (Post 273352)
Hrm, after I added qole's repository for Tear, I also got a libpurple0 upgrade from it, which seems to have broken Jabber in Pidgin.

Oh, the irony. After saying that I was scared of Extras-Devel for exactly this reason, someone shows by example that my repository is no better.

The libpurple0 wasn't meant for Pidgin; it was meant for the RTComm beta package. I hacked it together to fix ICQ.

Use this to fix Pidgin: libpurple0_2.5.1-0nix2_armel.deb

Sho 2009-03-20 22:11

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Thanks, qole -- App Manager complained about "Incompatible application package" when trying to install the linked libpurple0, but dpkg -i installed it fine. App Manager now offers your libpurple0 as an update again, but this time I know better, of course.

Still, while I appreciate your repos for Tear, I am looking forward to Tear going into Extras to solve this particular problem.

qole 2009-03-20 22:28

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Ah, Sho, you must be running Chinook.

Nevertheless, I've removed that libpurple0 package as being particularly problematic. I'll probably steal qwerty12's version and put that in my repo, it won't cause these problems...

Sho 2009-03-20 22:47

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Nope, I'm actually running Diablo (5.2008.43-7 -- latest OS release/feature upgrade, afaik). Can't put my finger on the reason for the App Manager complaining either. Perhaps it simply doesn't allow package downgrades, unlike dpkg -i.

sachin007 2009-03-20 23:01

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 273339)
zoom keys...

Thanks but the zoom button makes no difference to the size of the characters in the web page ....... only the images are zoomed. Is there anything that can be done to increase the default font size?

TrueJournals 2009-03-21 03:31

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 273362)
seems tear is unable to make the tablet connect to a existing wifi network, if one use the bookmark sidebar applet. using the internal bookmark menu, or the dashboard works fine tho.

Hmmm... Seems that tear is only checking for connectivity when it wants to :P The sidebar menu is due for an update, actually. I've worked on it quite a bit with a few upgrades, and it should be about ready for release. Just need to fix some bugs, and implement the dbus opening of tear (to avoid having multiple instances open). Look for a new version this coming week.

tso 2009-03-21 03:59

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
looking forward to it :D

now, if one could just figure out that osk sillyness, and i would be using tear as primary...

Bundyo 2009-03-21 10:10

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueJournals (Post 273440)
Hmmm... Seems that tear is only checking for connectivity when it wants to :P The sidebar menu is due for an update, actually. I've worked on it quite a bit with a few upgrades, and it should be about ready for release. Just need to fix some bugs, and implement the dbus opening of tear (to avoid having multiple instances open). Look for a new version this coming week.

In fact you already have it implemented. Tear no more opens new instances when asked to open an URL from the command line. It actually sends a DBus call to itself and then closes. Of course the overhead of running a new executable is there.

fpp 2009-03-21 10:58

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 273339)
zoom keys...

No, far from always. Ironically, this very forum, in its mobile skin no less, is one of the worst offenders :-)

mikkov 2009-03-21 11:36

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
For me Tear doesn't remember that I've disabled plugins. I have to set my settings every time when I start Tear.

Am I running old version (0.3-6) or isn't this yet implemented?

Bundyo 2009-03-21 11:43

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Options manager is next.


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