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Bundyo 2009-04-16 20:56

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Yes, I meant the unreleased yet one and the bookmarklets. google.com/calendar/gp is not working yet.

Strange, seems in the tracker I had the impression the bug was about Google Reader... oh, well... :)

Sho 2009-04-16 21:42

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Bundyo, I was wondering - do you plan to make your repository public at some point?

Bundyo 2009-04-16 22:18

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Repository?

Sho 2009-04-16 22:58

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Sorry, I mean your code repository (as in, SCM). I realize you have the code up in garage, but you only update it on releases. I'm wondering if you plan to start committing directly to garage SVN at some point, or offer public access to your private repository. So the more adventurous among us can test changes as they're made. And long term, perhaps even to enable additional Tear developers.

daperl 2009-04-16 23:15

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 280124)
Most of all we need a new thread... This one is overweight :)

I thought we were racing to 1000. I'll go next: When can we expect a VNC and media player integration?

This my imitation of Bundyo: :eek:

Snoshrk 2009-04-17 01:19

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 280215)
Strange, seems in the tracker I had the impression the bug was about Google Reader... oh, well... :)

I don't know if this is what you were thinking of: the wonderful scrolling feature of Tear doesn't seem to work in Google Reader...


Speaking of scrolling...Tear is making me very frustrated with the rest of the apps I use that don't scroll as nicely ;)

Any chance you could whip up a file manager :D

Bundyo 2009-04-17 05:21

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sho (Post 280240)
Sorry, I mean your code repository (as in, SCM). I realize you have the code up in garage, but you only update it on releases. I'm wondering if you plan to start committing directly to garage SVN at some point, or offer public access to your private repository. So the more adventurous among us can test changes as they're made. And long term, perhaps even to enable additional Tear developers.

Yeah, sorry. But since I'm the only one who uses it, I update it only on releases or when I go somewhere.

P.S. Updated the sources in Garage to current stage. Its not release ready yet, but I have to leave the town for 3 days. I hope to be able to use my Eee to finish it meanwhile, but not sure.

lm2 2009-04-18 14:06

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
I accidentally deleted the line you have by default in userstyles.css. Can you give that to me here? And also, do you know off hand of a generic userstyles command to make pages from a certain domain always presented at, say, 180%?

Thanks!

Bundyo 2009-04-18 15:40

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
* { -webkit-border-radius: 0 !important; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto !important; }

Styles for specific domain are not possible yet.

kornish 2009-04-19 11:51

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Is there any way to make tear start up automatically, when we start up the tablet? Preferably in fullscreen mode..

I saw this tread, but i assume this would fire up the microb. Do you think making tear the default browser solve the problem, or is there any other way to simply launch any program we want on start up?

Bundyo 2009-04-19 13:23

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Tear can be launched similarly, but not fullscreen yet.

lm2 2009-04-19 16:25

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Just want to say that I just tried using tear while connected to boost mobile's iden network using Yodude's setup, and boy does it work great! True, when exploiting boost's 19.2 kbs data connection, it's wise to let something like skweezer.com act as your web portal. But so long as you do so, site content loads extremely quickly and snappily. And the best part: it's free! (Well, actually it's $3.33/month, after the purchase of the phone off ebay; you need to top up your boost account with $10 every three months to keep it active.)

Anyway, this will keep my mobile web needs satiated as I await the new hardware and decide whether to drop the $$ to upgrade. With tear, my tablet has new life. With tear+boost, I am truly mobile and happy.

lm2 2009-04-19 16:29

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Also, I might have missed the announcement, but tear now remembers my login information and preserves my logged-in status from one session to the next. This is a huge development, for which I am VERY grateful!

Bundyo 2009-04-19 18:14

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 280779)
Also, I might have missed the announcement, but tear now remembers my login information and preserves my logged-in status from one session to the next. This is a huge development, for which I am VERY grateful!

This should be a webkit feature ;)

lm2 2009-04-19 18:22

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 280803)
This should be a webkit feature ;)

strangely wasn't working for the first few weeks using tear...

Bundyo 2009-04-19 18:27

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 280805)
strangely wasn't working for the first few weeks using tear...

I made a small upstream update, maybe from it.

TrueJournals 2009-04-20 03:44

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
I got some time to work on the tearbookmark task navigator plugin, and I was able to implement folder support :D I'm going to test this some more, and should be able to put it in extras-devel tomorrow night. This new version also includes some fixes to make the menu more standard (using set_ellipsize, instead of just taking the first x characters), and should fully dynamically update. This means that if you add a new bookmark, you don't need to reload the plugin. Every time the menu is opened, the database is read. This slows down opening a little, but it's not too bad. Also included is some better logic when launching tear, which should reduce some application overhead.

However, I'd like some input. Should the folders show up at the top of the menu (before the bookmarks in the root folder), or at the bottom of the menu?

meizirkki 2009-04-20 04:21

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueJournals (Post 280875)
I got some time to work on the tearbookmark task navigator plugin, and I was able to implement folder support :D I'm going to test this some more, and should be able to put it in extras-devel tomorrow night. This new version also includes some fixes to make the menu more standard (using set_ellipsize, instead of just taking the first x characters), and should fully dynamically update. This means that if you add a new bookmark, you don't need to reload the plugin. Every time the menu is opened, the database is read. This slows down opening a little, but it's not too bad. Also included is some better logic when launching tear, which should reduce some application overhead.

However, I'd like some input. Should the folders show up at the top of the menu (before the bookmarks in the root folder), or at the bottom of the menu?

at the bottom :)

callanish 2009-04-20 07:46

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueJournals (Post 280875)
I got some time to work on the tearbookmark task navigator plugin, and I was able to implement folder support :D I'm going to test this some more, and should be able to put it in extras-devel tomorrow night. This new version also includes some fixes to make the menu more standard (using set_ellipsize, instead of just taking the first x characters), and should fully dynamically update. This means that if you add a new bookmark, you don't need to reload the plugin. Every time the menu is opened, the database is read. This slows down opening a little, but it's not too bad. Also included is some better logic when launching tear, which should reduce some application overhead.

However, I'd like some input. Should the folders show up at the top of the menu (before the bookmarks in the root folder), or at the bottom of the menu?

Bottom as well for me please!

Matan 2009-04-20 10:47

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueJournals (Post 280875)
However, I'd like some input. Should the folders show up at the top of the menu (before the bookmarks in the root folder), or at the bottom of the menu?

Why should folders be separated from bookmarks? They should be treated like any other bookmark, and allowed to be ordered arbitrarily by the user. This is especially important for non-touch screen users.

munky261 2009-04-20 13:58

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
My vote is for being able to choose top or bottom.

sjgadsby 2009-04-20 14:20

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoshrk (Post 280268)
Tear is making me very frustrated with the rest of the apps I use that don't scroll as nicely

I've previously avoided asking about this, as Tear is a -devel product, but should Tear scroll web pages cleanly? On my N810, Tear smears web pages any time I drag them. Is this something peculiar to my installation?

munky261 2009-04-20 14:28

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Ive never encountered this myself at least. Its much better than trying to scroll in microb where its still keeps tryin to load stuff in and wont let ya move.

Bundyo 2009-04-20 16:14

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 280940)
I've previously avoided asking about this, as Tear is a -devel product, but should Tear scroll web pages cleanly? On my N810, Tear smears web pages any time I drag them. Is this something peculiar to my installation?

It does it quite cleanly for me, the smearing effect is much more visible on a 770. However it shouldn't do it too often on a 8x0 with the latest updates (probably will be more visible before the Xomap speedup). I will try to do a different implementation to see if it will help.

TrueJournals 2009-04-22 02:00

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
I'm pleased to announce that tearbookmarks 0.3.1-1 is in extras-devel! This includes folder support, and also installs bongo's bookmark manager (his currently-released version... I believe this doesn't allow you to add folders, yet...) Folder support is in the code, so when that gets added to the bookmark manager, it can be used right away. Currently, the only way to launch the bookmark manager is from the bookmark plugin.

Enjoy! And, as always, let me know if you find any bugs.

[edit]After fixing some goofy mistakes I've made... 0.3.1-4 is in extras-devel... just some very small bug fixes.

fpp 2009-04-22 16:16

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Post #986... getting there... getting there... :-)

lm2 2009-04-22 16:33

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueJournals (Post 281283)
I'm pleased to announce that tearbookmarks 0.3.1-1 is in extras-devel! This includes folder support, and also installs bongo's bookmark manager (his currently-released version...)

Before I had to navigate to the tear bookmarks folder and run

Code:

python tear-boomarks.py
Now that your tearbookmarks package "installs" bongo's manager, how do those who didn't have that manager previously installed now launch it?

Thanks.

munky261 2009-04-22 16:41

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
I installed the update, and when i tap the bookmark manager in the plugin, it doesnt open. I too used the previous method of launching it. Any ideas?

TrueJournals 2009-04-22 18:02

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Seems to work fine for me.. Make sure you're using 0.3.1-4, the latest version (0.3.1-3 and earlier had some bugs...). Also, make sure you reload the plugin after you install the new version. Go to control panel, Panels. Uncheck tear bookmarks and check something else to replace it, click OK, then click panels again, and uncheck something in order to check tear bookmarks. Then, just click on the icon and click "Bookmarks".

If this doesn't work, open the command line, run
Code:

python /usr/bin/tear-bookmarks/tear-bookmarks.py
and post the output, if any, here. I'll take a look at it tomorrow.

munky261 2009-04-22 22:27

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
was no output and it opens fine from the command line...i even made a .desktop file for the command. but it just wont launch from the plugin

Bundyo 2009-04-22 22:38

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
It actually works for me. Maybe some dependency?

munky261 2009-04-22 23:57

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Uninstalled and reinstalled and now it works fine.

thepenguinonthetelly 2009-04-23 01:52

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
I'm having the launching problem, too, but it works from the command line (although it takes a few tries sometimes; I don't know why).

Actually, the one weird problem that's popped up for me -- and I was wondering if anyone else has seen this -- is that I'm having an issue where I visit a webpage (as an example, let's say I'm trying to reply to a thread on 4chan, because it happens all of the time on there now where it wasn't before), and the browser wants to download the whole webpage. If I'm on a page where it happens often as the page is loading (like Facebook), I'll see a request to save the page faster than I can hit cancel.

It's not like it's bugging me any; I'm just curious if anyone else has seen this pop up yet.

TrueJournals 2009-04-23 04:00

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Hmm... that's really weird. Have you tried restarting your tablet to see if that fixes the issue? Also, are you SURE you have 0.3.1-4? Try uninstalling and installing it again, maybe? It's also quite possible I missed a dependency somewhere... I'll check that out tomorrow.

qwerty12 2009-04-23 15:01

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Installed -4 outright, and it works fine. I'm amazed at how well you've got tearbookmarks looking like the original plugin! This, with Bongo's bookmark manager make an awesome paring (and of course, Tear itself!).

Although, the anal retentive side of me asks: Why is the bookmark manager installed in /usr/bin/tear-bookmarks/? It's quicker for me if it's in /usr/bin as I can run it from the command line quickly if I wish :)

Plus, looking at /usr/bin/tear-bookmarks/, which only has images (minus the bookmark manager, which as said above, would be better in /usr/bin), that folder should really be in /usr/share.

Ah, I see, the bookmark manager loads images from the same folder. But I guess that could be changed? (Looking at the os.chdir?)

@Bongo,

In this case, 'self.window.set_title("Bookmarks")' should be 'gtk.set_application_name("Bookmarks")' (Looks better in the task switcher)

TrueJournals 2009-04-23 15:11

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Glad to hear you like it :)

I stuck the bookmark manager in /usr/bin/tear-bookmarks as a quick fix. I didn't want to go through bongo's code and change it to look in /usr/share/tear-bookmarks for the images (I realize it wouldn't be terribly difficult...), so I just stuck everything in /usr/bin. Sloppy, I know... but it works. I'll work with bongo more to get this working properly for the next version.

qwerty12 2009-04-23 18:33

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
@Bongo

http://pastebin.com/f64b29c4c

Removed the double import hildon, correctly set the title, fix the tap & hold to work properly & remove the hardcoded /home/user, inherit generic bookmark icon (as there's no desktop) and give the add bookmark dialog a title & set the same size as the microb bookmark prog

tso 2009-04-23 20:18

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
gah, i still feel that webkit is slower then it used to be.

it seems to be using more time on images then microb is using. and imo, that does not sound right.

now i recently recalled that i have a tuned microb setup, with a highly limited number of concurrent downloads. could something similar be hammering webkit? is it trying to download to many things at ones, choking the cpu in the process?

Bundyo 2009-04-23 20:30

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
No, CURL is reusing the handle/s it has (P.S. It is a multihadle, so not one job). Have to dig more in WebKit one of these days.

Sho 2009-04-23 21:18

Re: Tear 0.3 - Simple WebKit browser, now with Dashboard
 
Personally, I don't remember a time WebKit/Tear was faster than it is now, for me. In fact, I used to find it slower, particularly because the smearing problem used to be much worse (I used to think the name "Tear" was poking fun at the smearing problem - as in, "tearing" - and that it was part of the concept ...).

Right now, my only regret with regard to Tear is me being to lazy to build the latest SVN code ;).


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