I have an extra unused PC
 

I have an extra unused PC and I'm thinking of installing Ubuntu or debian, or maybe Windows 7 Beta. Or maybe even making it a dual-boot linux/windows 7. Also thinking of using it to study developing for N810 using Python. So I have a question?

If your were going to setup a clean PC as a dedicated development platform for the Nokia N810 what OS, software, utilities would you install?

Re: I have an extra unused PC
 

Windows as a N8x0 dev platform... that's a new one... ;)

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I use windows.

Re: I have an extra unused PC
 

If you are looking to do development for Maemo then Ubuntu or any Debian based Linux system will do.

Install Debian
Install Scratchbox
Install SDK

Here is some good information about Diablo and links to SDK/scratchbox installer scripts.
http://maemo.org/development/sdks/ma...-1_diablo_sdk/

Here is info about Maemo 5
http://maemo.org/development/sdks/ma...realpha2_main/

Re: I have an extra unused PC
 

If you have need for Windows, why not dual-boot? I think I have Windows on one of my computers somewhere.

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How do you do it? Emulators and coLinux doesn't count - not exactly Windows. :)

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Bundyo,

quite simple:
on windows
install winscp
install komodo-edit
install putty
connect to tablet which has gcc+stdc+*dev libs installed
edit source stored on /media/mmc1/svn/liqbase/libliqbase
run putty
type "if make; then ./vworld; fi" and watch my app directly on tablet.

:)

Re: I have an extra unused PC
 

coLinux + Komodo would probably be faster ;) And since in Komodo you can define custom commands, you can copy and run the app on your tablet directly from the IDE... :) with a shortcut :)

Re: I have an extra unused PC
 

My Window/Ubuntu dual boot has been working for over a year now and has absolutely no problem. Want to try? Step by step here, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=21992


bun

Re: I have an extra unused PC
 

Bundyo, I can edit and compile from anywhere, with any OS or even native complete 100% on board building.

Having to maintain a drastically customized IDE isn't practical and when I am on my linux laptop it uses sshfs and gedit to the same extent.

you say its slow, for the single module compilations I spent most of the time doing, its slower to use scratchbox and copy over and execute than what I do.

I have flexibility and ease of use on my side, its logical and simple and most importantly, it works well.

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Yes, for one file it makes sense. I wouldn't call one Komodo command drastical customization, but you at least escape the need to have a scratchbox installed.

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agreed
scratchbox was the biggest problem with my mind.

I was learning all about linux at the time (still am) and the thought of running a system inside a system when i didn't understand the outside just made me seek out an onboard solution.

regarding komodo, I'll read up about the commands, I did want to do something else with it for change notification (f5 to make automatic comment header including date and nick) but didn't have the energy to readup.

for a complete system rebuild, it takes about a minute with the cpu on performance, its an ideal time to catch up in chat or read the top of slash.

I've never thought it to be strange or unusual and most work projects in .net take longer by default :)

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Yeah, i'm working with .NET lately, our project takes about a minute to build. Anyway my Vala browser builds for about 5-10 secs in Scratchbox and that's fine with me for now :)

Now SB2 is coming. Heavily limited platform, since it relies on its parent OS to do most of the work. Imagine my frustration when I discovered that I can't run it in my openSUSE 11.1 directly. Then I downloaded an Ubuntu VirtualBox image, but running an emulator in an emulator is not a good and fast experience. So I converted the VirtualBox image to fixed, mounted it as a drive, copied the contents to my partition and now i'm chrooting to it whenever i want to compile in SB2. Took me two days to figure all that out and I wonder how Maemo-SDK+ is going to help development for Fremantle if it is so tied up to the OS... :)

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words fail me.

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I wasn't going to use Windows as a dev platform for the N810. That's why I mentioned Ubuntu and Debian. I was just mentioning that I was also considering making a dual-boot machine with a Linux and Windows 7.

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I am impressed enough with Ubuntu that I, literally, bought the T-shirt... and the coffee mug, and the stress ball :)

Hey, they're doing it right and deserve some cash. I'm even running it at work, a Windows shop, though I'm doing it in a virtual machine. Works great, putting all the personal stuff "off to the side."

Speaking of virtualisation... and N810 development... has anyone built a complete Maemo development environment in a virtual machine? Now, that would be useful.

... Oh, never mind, Google is my friend:
Maemo SDK VMware
I'll grab the torrent and give it a try.

David...

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..must resist
..must have strength ;-)

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WinSCP also has a basic text editor built-in. I like the way WinSCP lets you edit linux text files without trashing them, unlike many (most) other Windows text editors. And you can edit the files in-place, that is, you use WinSCP to get onto the tablet, then you double click on your script and it opens on your Windows desktop. You edit and hit the save button and presto, you can immediately run the script on the tablet.

I also use Cygwin + openssh instead of putty because that gives me an X Server on my Windows box that lets me do X-forwarding... For example, when ssh'ed into my tablet from Windows (running Debian sshd, not maemo sshd), I accidentally started up the full XFce4 environment on my tablet, forwarded to my Windows box... This produced a weird result...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2303/...6823395e02.jpg