Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

Sigh... qole you know what I meant. Other ARM operating systems, like Android, WinMo, BB, Maemo... As long as there is a compatible "appliance", it can run on any phone without "porting" it.

This technology can possibly be used to prevent hacking, BUT think about this. If the "protected" stuff is in a separate VM, maybe companies will lower restrictions on the other parts. Also, if the VM itself is hacked, then you can load any OS (see above for clarification ;) ) including "jailbroken" ones. Which is nice.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

I like that positive spin. The companies can put the voice stack, etc in a nice little armour-plated vault, and then use OSS for the rest of it.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

so who can find us a leaked vershion of this VMWARE to est the one they used on the video surley someone out there has access to it maybe you can slip it onto this forum for us to test please.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

So this is basically a hypervisor -like ESX- for ARM?

Cool for developers and curious users to run a different OS and applications on their mobile device such as Symbian, BB, OSX, WM. For backward compatibility it might come in handy as well.

Different, incompatible architectures. Amiga, back in those days, had m68k (CISC). ARM is a RISC, once started by UK corporation Acorn. Together with their OSes, provided a rapid user experience. Both often used in embedded environments, before the x86-32 hegemony on desktops they were also in use on desktops. Some manufacturers -e.g. Amiga and Atari- vanished with their product while other manufacturers -e.g. SUN, Apple- went to other architectures such as -but not exclusively- ARM (also PPC, MIPS, SPARC, ...) for their newer devices (mostly desktops, thin clients, [small] servers, and some embedded as well). m68k was and is still used in embedded market, but compared to ARM relatively not much. MIPS and PPC are also still used in embedded market, but again not as much as ARM.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

AMEN! I hate those "real job" excuses

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

As much as I was thrilled to read about that (on Engadget BTW) and see the videos, I don't think VMWare will be officially releasing/selling this solution to the home users. I believe they see the customers being OEMs, maybe telco providers or large corporations.
Maybe we could convince them to release a non-final build to us for testing, but then I doubt we'd be given the image of WinCE machine as it's a whole lot of problems with licensing.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

... why would we want a WinCE image to run on it?

Maemo and Android would be plenty fine.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

You're absolutely right. Nokia needs to catch up on the software. Their hardware is amazing (NSeries phones) but the software is just too old. I'm not saying the software is bad but it's just too slow.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

Because there are treasures on each OS and to think otherwise would be a bit of the master race mentality. There are some fantastic navigation softwares available on WinCE and everything that I have used on the tablet has been 2nd rate or at least the experience has been. Not to mention the library of thousands of programs already made for WinCE that don't exist on the Maemo platform. I have liked my experience with Linux but why do so many people actually close their mind smaller than Microsoft just to defend Linux? Truly, if you can embrace something from all OS's you will be better off for it.


edit: Reading this the next day, this was suppose to come across in a positive way but instead is kind of a-hole like. Just think happy thoughts when reading it and it should read just right.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

Amen, sir. I am not a windows mobile fanatic by any means but I do like it. The opportunities for customization/beautification are boundless and for my occupational needs "it just works".

I like Maemo Mapper. I think it's a tremendous accomplishment. But when using my phone I really benefit from the Bing navigation program (used to be Windows Live Search). Skyfire has been mentioned a lot. Documents To Go is a very, very powerful office suite held back only by the device's screen. If I took time I could list dozens more, but I'm rusty since I generally go to the N810 for anything beyond cell phone usage.

I know nothing about Android aside from the cell phone commercials. I like the idea of having the ability to switch between Maemo and Windows Mobile.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

While I agree with the first premise, I couldn't possibly see that sort of connection. That's a HUGE stretch IMO.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

I doubt any user will actually see this software. It is intended for the phone manufacturers.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

It's not about the treasures, it's about the proprietary nuclear waste. And it's not a master race mentality, it's an evolutionary mentality.

Navigate me to what? WinCE has no where to go, handheld GNU/Linux hasn't even hit its stride yet. But I do like watching Microsoft not giving up the ship, but the ship is sinking none the less.

A tidal wave is coming, you better get off that WinCE island and head for the Linux mainland.

We agree on something.

Not possible.

Are you saying I need more than one operating system? This is where Microsoft and I might disagree with you.

I'm happy enough and it couldn't read more wrong.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

So what kind of mood do I need to be in to read something broad-minded in your post? Maybe there is something to a "master race" mentality after all. Evolutionary? Hardly. Any student of the social sciences will tell you that few things are certain and evolution never, ever follows a straight path.

All OS' have some great programs. What's wrong with enjoying aspects of any that interest you? Maybe in the future Linux will become a hegemony along the lines of Windows 10 years ago. Maybe not. Although I believe in and have brand loyalty, the name of the company interests me less than if the product it offers is the best one for me.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

God spoke to me and said it was time for Microsoft to go, and he asked if I wouldn't help spread the word. So, maybe you're right, maybe it isn't evolutionary, maybe it's just Intelligent Design.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

Nice! What else are you meant to share? Other than the Linux tidal wave sweeping towards the Pacific Coast (blame El Nino)...

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

That might be it. He left me with the impression that once Microsoft was gone the rest would just work itself out. It's so true what they say about Him working in mysterious ways.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

I wouldn't have bumped this thread if I knew this was going to happen.

You guys are like <major religion A> and <major religion B>.

Neither one of you are going to convince the other that they are wrong, so what's the point?

I just wanted some VMware on my tablet :-/

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

Come on, these guys make great reading with my first morning coffee! :D

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

The scary part is we ignored you and responded to the February 28th post above yours. That's just lame. I think I gave myself the willys.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

Oh don't worry about that. Even if I was in the US (which I'm not) it would still be great reading material with the last evening coffee in that case. And I would be having pleasant dreams of penguins flying all over thee world, free, breaking the windows on their cages (windows on cages?!)...

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be serious. I thought my "indignation" transparently non-serious; that it was taken otherwise is entirely my fault, and I apologize. I do stand by my opinion, though. That being said, Daperl: I'm not an agnostic/athiest and you still made me laugh big time. Thanks! I'm done now and I will be more careful in the future.

Re: VMWare on N800: Windows CE and Android Running
 

Any news about vmware ?