And the Kindle Plus is...
 

(Unfortunately), the iPod and its bretheren.

Not exactly the Kindle Plus (a name I made up recently: it doesn't exist.) But its seeds may be here, from the NY Times today:

"Starting Wednesday, owners of these Apple devices can download a free application, Kindle for iPhone and iPod Touch, from Apple’s App Store. The software will give them full access to the 240,000 e-books for sale on Amazon.com, which include a majority of best sellers."

Assuming that these books are made available at Kindle prices (does anyone know for sure?), this could mean the eventual death of the Kindle.

And look at this:

"Amazon also said its recently unveiled Whispersync function would work for people who own a Kindle and one of the Apple devices." (I guess that means you download with the Kindle and transfer to the iPod)

Also involving Amazon, I see that I can buy movies from Amazon on my Roku Netflix device now.

So the world is changing fast.

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I would imagine that Amazon helped Apple develop the app that accesses the e-books. Although I can see that this would sell more e-books, I agree it would sell no Kindles.

When you buy a movie to your Roku device, can you save it somewhere?

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The good thing about the kindle is that the screen is e-paper and it's also reasonably large. I really can't see myself reading books on a titchy iPod with a back-lit screen (or indeed the N8x0 for that matter).

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Maybe Amazon believes that there will be only partial cannibalization of Kindle sales from iPhone users, and the greater sales of e-books will offset.

I don't always read e-books on my N800, but it is nice as a backup device when I don't have a book handy.

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Someone asked if you could play the Roku movies more than once, or something like that:

"Videos play back instantly on your TV. No waiting for a download. Purchases and rentals are added to Your Video Library and stored online by Amazon.com so you can conveniently watch them on your Roku player."

I guess that means they are permanently available, but stored on the net, so you can't share them with your friends unless they come over for a beer or you bring your Roku to their house.

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"I don't always read e-books on my N800, but it is nice as a backup device when I don't have a book handy."

I read books on my N800 and N810 constantly, and I have recently discovered a
revolutionary development unknown to the Kindle -- it's called COLOR.

FBreader allows you to change the background/typeface colors, and shades of blue are more restful than stark black and white, it seems to me.

I guess you can do that on an iTouch, I suppose, maybe.

But I confess I have been doing more reading on my eee 1000h lately.

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The kindle could probably be sold as a loss-leader, in the same way as games consoles are, with the vast majority of the profit coming from the book sales. Therefore there's no problem, afaict, with this client for the iPod.

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Actually what it means is, the books you read on your iPhone and your Kindle are always in sync, meaning if you read up to page 123 on your Kindle, then open the book on your iPhone, it opens to page 123... and vice versa. Really quite smart, if you think about it... and if you own both devices, which seems a bit weird, but I'm sure there are people who have both.

You can download books to either the iPhone or the Kindle from amazon's website. You don't transfer books to the iPhone from the Kindle in fact you need not even own a Kindle.

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I don't know what "titchy" means, but actually, the books in the iPhone's Kindle reader are surprisingly easy to read, even in sunlight, and the form factor of the iPhone is better for reading when in a checkout line, on a bus, whatever than the Kindle. It's very simple to open the book and start reading with one hand, which the Kindle requires just a bit more work. Plus it fits in a pocket vs Kindle doesn't, and did anyone mention it takes phone calls as well? I wouldn't suggest hours and hours of uninterrupted reading on the thing, but for sneaking in a chapter or two - think department store shopping with the wife - it's really not too bad.

I previously owned a Kindle, now own an iPhone and for my purposes, when it comes to reading electronic books, the iPhone wins by a neck. Oh and the books I purchased for my Kindle were waiting for me when I registered my iPhone.

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I was surprised that I really like reading on my N800. Then I tried doing it on an iPod Touch, but my eyes fatigued from the lack of pixel density. Last week I briefly tried a Kindle 2, and I was surprised to find its contrast too low for my satisfaction. Maybe contrast is adjustable, but my cousin -- its owner -- didn't think so.

March 30 Edit: While I don't like reading on the Touch with black-on-white, I used a friend's eBook Reader on her iPhone (so same should apply to a Touch) and found that white-on-black and some other color combinations made reading just fine.

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It means small

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I have the exact opposite experience. Reading on my N800 is hampered mainly by the lack of transreflective screen which makes reading in anything but a dim room quite fatiguing. I have no problems reading on my iPhone in all kinds of lighting, indoors and out, and as for the Kindle app, changing font sizes is trivial.

As I alluded earlier, though, I'm not doing heavy-duty reading on the iPhone, just a chpater or two here or there, which come to think of it is how I read even with a book. Short attention span, maybe...

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It all fits. I've done all my N800 reading in a dim room or dim airplane. I tried different font sizes on the Kindle 2, but except at a too-large size, it didn't satisfy my desire for contrast.

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I love to snuggle down under the covers with a good book on my N800. It beats the old days when I used a flashlight to do the same thing :)

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After knocking back a chapter or so on a Kindle 2g when I was staying over at a friends house the other day, I must say that I am pretty impressed by the e-ink. I still don't find it extremely more readable than the N810. I can't imagine the ipod touch/iphone being any different if not even worse due to lower pixel density.

The great thing that I love about my N810 is how small it is to handle and how perfectly it sits in my hand. On a crowded subway I can easily use it one handed and tucked close to me with my thumb on the pg+pg- rocker, which is more than I can say about the Kindle 2 and probably even the iphone.

The kindle is a great piece of kit, but I am more jealous of the marketplace on it than anything. I hate grappling with de-DRMing books that I have purchased. I have no qualms paying for a good book.

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Judging by this comment, I assume that you haven't seen an ebook on the iPhone. This whole pixel density thing is a false argument. The font rendering is really perfectly fine on the iPhone, it's at least as good as my N800, and the transreflective screen bests the N800 for reading - for me. The only time I have noticed an issue with pixels is when surfing the web on non-iPhone optimized websites, the N8XX blows away the iPhone in that instance.

For reading ebooks, just being honest here, the iPhone is easier for me to hold than my N800, and a simple swipe of your thumb changes pages. It really is as simple as taking out of your pocket, opening the app, and reading - all with one hand, all with essentially no fuss. The app opens at a single touch of your thumb.

Anyway, I don't want to be accused of overhyping the competition, or of taking the thread too far from it's topic... but for ebooks the iPhone holds it's own perfectly well against at least the N800.

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this thread is pushing me to go get kindle, but its really ex