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qole 2009-03-19 01:28

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I'm only interested if I can be a Sardine.

fragos 2009-03-19 01:58

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We sure are getting carried away with this. I recall in the 60's we used to joke that an expert programmer was the one assigned and a guru was programmer that did it once before. These various lables seem to have a similar level of useful meaning.

TenSpeed 2009-03-19 02:09

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I know it's not as much fun, but I vote to ditch the titles completely. I come from the school of "Keep It Simple, Stupid." (No, it's not actually a school. More like distance ed.)

Hey, while you're at it, limit the signatures, clean up the interface, etc.

Right now each posting shows the avatar, name, time/date, post#, a "report" button (I've never noticed that before!), join date, location, # of posts, # of thanks, # of thankeds, thread title, signature, quote button, thanks button... Oh, and the actual content. Seems a little... unbalanced.

Clean that up and I promise that I'll have more fun. :)

If not, put me down for Sardine...

bobthebuilder 2009-03-19 04:19

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I like titles because it atleast gives me a sense of how involved the individual is on the forums. I know that does not indicate his worth to the community, but it could be an indication.

Thesandlord 2009-03-19 04:22

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Right now, titles are completely useless. Any system based on post count is stupid, because, hey look: I can see exactly how many posts you have without looking at the title!

I think that after people get a few hundred posts or whatever, they can pick a name from a list of pre-approved ones (So we don't get names that are 100 words long).

Or just remove them. In communist maemo, everyone is a comrade!

Jaffa 2009-03-19 21:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 272835)
When it was announced that itt was moving to maemo.org, there were comments that it was a non-event, little more than a name change, etc., etc. [...] IMHO, you should not propose use of maemo.org karma (since that is affected by much more than itt forum activity).

I'm not suggesting the "use" of maemo.org karma to select a description alongside a name; just that since ITT accounts and maemo.org accounts can be linked that - for some users - additional information from the maemo.org account will be able to be shown on the talk.maemo.org posts.

Karma is an obvious one. A link in (from their tmo profile page) back to the maemo.org profile page is another. Perhaps "company" too.

ITT is becoming tmo, everything under *.maemo.org should strive to show user contributions in as consistent manner as possible, and the current proposal for is: http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Improving...Member_profile

attila77 2009-03-19 22:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 272865)
Right now, titles are completely useless. Any system based on post count is stupid, because, hey look: I can see exactly how many posts you have without looking at the title!

But you don't know the range. So in meaningful terms, you want to split the RANGE of 0 to top poster and rank accordingly.

X = # of posts of GA
0 - X/5 lurker
X/5 - 2X/5 casual typer
2X/5 - 3X/5 strong poster
3X/5 - 4X/5 message factory
4X/5 - 6X/5 GA lookalike
6X/5 - 10X/5 GA on steroids
20X/5 - 50X/5 carpal tunnel syndrome
50X+/5 man machine interface

adjust as necessary

lardman 2009-03-19 23:22

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I like the idea of karma being used to rate the person, assuming we even need ratings and assuming it can be fed in somehow.

SD69 2009-03-20 00:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 273053)
I'm not suggesting the "use" of maemo.org karma to select a description alongside a name; just that since ITT accounts and maemo.org accounts can be linked that - for some users - additional information from the maemo.org account will be able to be shown on the talk.maemo.org posts.

Karma is an obvious one. A link in (from their tmo profile page) back to the maemo.org profile page is another. Perhaps "company" too.

ITT is becoming tmo, everything under *.maemo.org should strive to show user contributions in as consistent manner as possible, and the current proposal for is: http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Improving...Member_profile

Sure, I understand all that. My point is using maemo.org karma on the forum will rank people according to criteria that is not limited to their activity on the forum. I understand karma has good purpose on maemo.org where people are doing things instead of just talking, but importing a ranking system into the forum is a bad idea.

Benson 2009-03-20 02:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 273092)
Sure, I understand all that. My point is using maemo.org karma on the forum will rank people according to criteria that is not limited to their activity on the forum. I understand karma has good purpose on maemo.org where people are doing things instead of just talking, but importing a ranking system into the forum is a bad idea.

Why is showing more info about them a bad idea, when that info will be available by clicking through to their profile page, anyway?

SD69 2009-03-20 18:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 273107)
Why is showing more info about them a bad idea, when that info will be available by clicking through to their profile page, anyway?

Showing more info about a person's forum activity is a good idea. And Jaffa's proposal makes a lot of sense (from the perspective of maemo.org). But I think a person's karma or ranking on the forum should continue to be determined only by their contributions to the forum, and not by their contributions to maemo.org at large. Just my opinion.

lcuk 2009-03-20 18:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 273269)
Showing more info about a person's forum activity is a good idea. And Jaffa's proposal makes a lot of sense (from the perspective of maemo.org). But I think a person's karma or ranking on the forum should continue to be determined only by their contributions to the forum, and not by their contributions to maemo.org at large. Just my opinion.

the forum *will* be on maemo.org at large.
so contributions to the planet and to the wiki and to the projects should all go in together.
but I feel it should not be displayed and used on the forum.

within a forum having a hierarchy feels wrong.
it doesnt matter how much good a person has done elsewhere if hes trolling in a particular thread, or if an utter newbie comes up with an utterly amazing comment.

qole 2009-03-22 05:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lcuk (Post 273274)
...it doesnt matter how much good a person has done elsewhere if hes trolling in a particular thread...

nah, that never happens. ;)

EIPI 2009-03-24 13:39

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How about a member level system based upon the Beaufort Scale. The Maemo releases are named after winds. The Beaufort scale measures wind at sea.

Red 2009-03-24 13:50

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The levels on another board I frequent were based on humorous versions of winds. They were:

Fresh Breeze 0
Familiar Wind 100
Constant Storm 500
Stale Wind 1000
Historic Gale 2000
Crusty Puff 3000
Omnipotent Gust 4000
Wild Windshear 5000
Jehovah's Exhalation 6000
Unceasing Huff-n-Puff 7000
Old Fart 8000
Wafting Whiff 9000
Tiny Typhoon 10000+

Well, you said you wanted humour!

qole 2009-03-24 17:43

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Oooh! I like that! Just call me Mr. Crusty Puff!

fpp 2009-03-24 19:52

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EIPI+Red+maemo = good fit ! :-)

wazd 2009-03-25 01:06

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maybe some posts/thanks ratio? Like
0 - "flamer"
0.2 - "can help"
0.5 - "will be glad to help"
1 - "eagle-eye"
and so on.

GeneralAntilles 2009-03-25 01:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wazd (Post 274372)
maybe some posts/thanks ratio? Like
0 - "flamer"
0.2 - "can help"
0.5 - "will be glad to help"
1 - "eagle-eye"
and so on.

Only valid if the Thanks had been present since the forum was opened, which they haven't been. Besides, I'm not looking for any sort of meaningful ranking metric (that's what the maemo.org karma is for), just something silly to replace the current scale we have now.

FRZ 2009-03-25 02:59

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Hey, I am a senior member and I don't know squat. I just accidentally delete my clone boot getting confuse over these device names. "Sigh", I worked so hard on the clone boot.

lardman 2009-03-26 00:15

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Quote:

Hey, I am a senior member and I don't know squat.
You're having a "senior moment" ;)

jeremiah 2009-04-08 12:32

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I really like GeneralAntilles' proposal - I hope it gets integrated.

Now I just hope I can get to kaksi. :)

benny1967 2009-04-10 09:40

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I don't really think there's any need for action... But:

If it's gonna be changed... a good reason to use karma instead of anything else would be that in spite of the domain change, user accounts will not be merged.

Showing karma for those who have a maemo.org account and not showing karma ("-" rather than "0") for those who don't might make people ask what this karma-thing is all about... how to get karma... which may lead to people opening a maemo.org-account... which in turn is good for the community: The maemo.org account is the key to further participation beyond the forum.

YoDude 2009-04-10 12:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 278779)
I don't really think there's any need for action... But:

If it's gonna be changed... a good reason to use karma instead of anything else would be that in spite of the domain change, user accounts will not be merged.

Showing karma for those who have a maemo.org account and not showing karma ("-" rather than "0") for those who don't might make people ask what this karma-thing is all about... how to get karma... which may lead to people opening a maemo.org-account... which in turn is good for the community: The maemo.org account is the key to further participation beyond the forum.

Exactly^...

This forum site behaves as the general public expects a forum site to behave and low frustration = low transference to Maemo the brand.

However, if simple actions continue to frustrate new users at the maemo.org site, just the opposite may occur and this in turn is not good for the community.

If they are like me when the N800 first dropped they will retreat back to the comfort of this forum until they can figure out how to make that new purchase more useful.

qole 2009-05-29 08:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 272841)
I'm only interested if I can be a Sardine.

Ha! Look at my header! I'm a Sardine!

Texrat 2009-05-29 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 291801)
Ha! Look at my header! I'm a Sardine!

Now it's time to can you.

jmjanzen 2009-05-29 19:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 291801)
Ha! Look at my header! I'm a Sardine!

Wha? Well, then, how many posts do i have to have to be an opabinia? :D

totololo 2009-05-29 20:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 291801)
Ha! Look at my header! I'm a Sardine!

...
Isn't there something fishy with this guy ? :confused: :D

Sorrrrrrrry, i'm already out ....

qole 2009-06-03 16:37

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I guess Reggie doesn't like Sardines.

Texrat 2009-06-10 17:38

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There should be a Rat status.


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