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ukjeeper 2009-03-28 21:19

New Samsung Tablet.
 
Didn't find anything on here about this one.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/...-devicetablet/


http://www.boygeniusreport.com/wp-co...icture-639.png

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WiMax is still around and kickin’, believe it or not, and Clear (formerly Clearwire, formerly Xohm) is planning to expand its networks soon. As such, it only makes sense that manufacturers are gearing up for the US expansion with some WiMAX devices, right? Samsung has dropped a few snippets of information on its SWD-M100 Mondi, which the company claims is the first handheld WiMAX device for the States. Burn. Judging by the popularity, or lack thereof, of the Nokia Internet tablet:mad:, we’re not quite sure how well this slider device will do or how Sammy plans to market it. We’ll have to wait and see, but if your 3G device isn’t cutting it for your Internet addiction, this device packs a slide-out QWERTY keyboard, a D-Pad and a touchscreen. No official announcement or pricing on this device but we’re not exactly on the edge of our seats for this one.


Lord Raiden 2009-03-28 22:40

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
hehe. I've seriously got to consider grabbing one of these when they're available. Mostly just to see how good it is.

tso 2009-03-28 23:38

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
kinda low on spec info on that one...

jaem 2009-03-29 00:08

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
It looks rather ugly... Any word on the OS/preinstalled software?

ukjeeper 2009-03-29 00:31

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
I did find this via google:

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The device is potentially very interesting. If it uses a fast, Cortex-core processor, Windows Mobile 6.5 and the new Opera Mobile 9.7 browser then it will meet a lot of wish-lists, spot-on. Until we get further info though, we’re still left with the same specs as we had before:

4.3 inch touchscreen
Wimax, Wifi and Bluetooth
Dual cams ( 3M + 0.3M pixels )
Micro SD
TV out
Windows Mobile 6.1 with Opera web browser
http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/sa...m100-mondi-mid

tso 2009-03-29 00:56

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
ah, good old chippy. should have known.

dsralph 2009-03-29 00:56

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
windows mobile 6.1...:)_

gosh I really dont like windze on tablets....

Lord Raiden 2009-03-29 01:34

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Wait, WinCE? Oh good gawds. Forget it.

paulkoan 2009-03-29 01:51

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
One day we will live in a world where we don't have to WinCE.

I can just imagine the hardware engineers after all their work going to the platform meeting: "You want to put *what* on it?!"

tso 2009-03-29 01:52

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Raiden (Post 275390)
Wait, WinCE? Oh good gawds. Forget it.

mobile, not CE.

more software for the former ;)

paulkoan 2009-03-29 02:15

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
WinCE is the underlying technology that Windows Mobile runs on and is the source of its crappyness power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinCE#R...and_SmartPhone

tso 2009-03-29 02:33

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
ugh, talk about confusing...

Lord Raiden 2009-03-29 02:53

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Meh, Mobile, WinCE. Same dog, different spots. It's still Windows and it's still produced by Microsoft. Bah. And here I was hoping that Samsung would actually do something intelligent. :rolls eyes:

tso 2009-03-29 03:13

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
like what, symbian? ;)

ukjeeper 2009-03-29 07:42

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
From other search results it definitely seems to be destined to be a WinMo infected device, probably Mobile 6.5 rather than 6.1.


http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-S...d-107945.shtml

Lord Raiden 2009-03-29 08:16

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Hey, anything is an improvement over WinCE/Mobile. Even Symbian. Although Symbian is now open source, so Maemo's gonna have some competition here really soon. ;)

ukjeeper 2009-04-01 07:07

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Samsung Mondi at CTIA:

http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-12261_7...tag=mncol;page

petur 2009-04-01 08:01

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Well, having owned a PDA with CE for 5 years and an n810 for 1 year, I'm ready to go back to CE any time.
At least there's software on CE that works and does what you need, I'm really fed up with 1000 half-baked crap opensource apps that only do 10% of what you need.
And this remark is coming from an open-source contributor... so guess how disappointed I am in what the n810 has to offer.

One word of advice for the people who posted that CE is crap: get a device and use it for a year. It may not be hackable or cool, but it is a tool that simply works and gets the job done. My 5 year old PDA still works perfectly and is for some tasks even faster than the n810 - go figure.
</rant>

yukop4 2009-04-01 09:39

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
I had a hp ipaq 4700 and it still is after 5 years way ahead of the nokia tablet--and has not lost its resale value

attila77 2009-04-01 09:57

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
I see April 1 is going strong today :)

tso 2009-04-01 10:00

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
that or the beginnings of a new pissing contest...

johnkzin 2009-04-01 10:47

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
It looks to me like a Samsung+WinMo version of an N810-WME. I'd be more impressed with a GSM/WCDMA version.

Though, it has 4 improvements over the N810:

1) MicroSD card instead of miniSD,
2) 4GB internal storage,
3) HDMI video out, and
4) Accelerometer (which I presume means it'll support screen rotation at all, unlike the N810)

But, with WinMo, I'm just not interested. Maybe if Samsung gets Android and Mer on it...

munky261 2009-04-01 11:55

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
I saw no hdmi port on the thing.

johnkzin 2009-04-01 13:09

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 276446)
I saw no hdmi port on the thing.

The specs floating around the net today, including at UMPCPortal, all say it has HDMI out.

fpp 2009-04-01 19:17

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 276415)
I see April 1 is going strong today :)

Our dirty little secret is that maemo is actually Linux running in a virtual machine on top of WindowsCE. Which would be fine really, except that the broken emulator is not open source and we, the community, can't fix it...

eiffel 2009-04-02 10:48

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
I also don't see any sign of an HDMI port. In fact it looks really close functionally to an N810 Wimax Edition (but with WinMo instead of MaeMo). Presumably the buttons on the right of the keyboard are the "full screen, zoom in, zoom out" buttons that we know and love.

Kind of odd isn't it? Nokia discontinues a WiMax tablet for the Xohm service, then after the merger Samsung brings out a very similar WiMax tablet for the now-named-Clear service. It doesn't seem to make commercial sense. I can't help wondering if there was some kind of backroom deal done in conjunction with the merger.

Nokia had a mature product and must have already amortized most of their N810 R&D costs against the non-WiMax edition, so surely they had a cash cow here. Very weird.

Regards,
Roger

tso 2009-04-02 11:00

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
dont know about the bottom two, but the top one is probably a soft key, like one find on any modern mobile phone. note that there is a matching one at the top left of the keyboard area as well. and also on the right and left of the screen (for when the keyboard is not in use).

eiffel 2009-04-02 15:10

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
It's hard to imagine why you'd have tiny keyboard softkeys in addition to the nice big ones on the screen. I can't see how you could use the screen to give function to more than one pair of softkeys, so the small "softkeys" are a puzzle.

The other two keys at the right appear to be labelled "+/Up" and "-/Dn". There's a dedicated Internet Explorer key above the D-pad, and of course a "Windows" key. How many "OK" buttons do you need? There's the center of the D-pad, the ENTER key, and an OK key just beneath ENTER.

tso 2009-04-02 15:43

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
easier to reach with thumbs while using the keyboard?

that is, not having to shift the grip to get to them...

SD69 2009-04-02 22:11

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Quote:

I also don't see any sign of an HDMI port. In fact it looks really close functionally to an N810 Wimax Edition (but with WinMo instead of MaeMo). Presumably the buttons on the right of the keyboard are the "full screen, zoom in, zoom out" buttons that we know and love.
LUV, LUV, LUV

Quote:

Kind of odd isn't it? Nokia discontinues a WiMax tablet for the Xohm service, then after the merger Samsung brings out a very similar WiMax tablet for the now-named-Clear service. It doesn't seem to make commercial sense. I can't help wondering if there was some kind of backroom deal done in conjunction with the merger.

Nokia had a mature product and must have already amortized most of their N810 R&D costs against the non-WiMax edition, so surely they had a cash cow here. Very weird.
My posts in this thread might explain it:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=19853

as well as my posts in various other threads about 810W

MSchievelbein 2009-04-03 14:58

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
I am still confused, if I buy one of these, can I get rid of Winsucks off from it and put Maemo on it?

sjgadsby 2009-04-03 15:05

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MSchievelbein (Post 277099)
I am still confused, if I buy one of these, can I get rid of Winsucks off from it and put Maemo on it?

There's a chance Mer may eventually run on the device, but I don't recommend buying one counting on it. The processor and many details are yet unknown, so it's difficult to predict what challenges might confront Mer developers. Additionally, even if Mer is eventually made to work with the device, it seems likely WiMAX support would be missing.

SD69 2009-04-04 20:18

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MSchievelbein (Post 277099)
I am still confused, if I buy one of these, can I get rid of Winsucks off from it and put Maemo on it?

No. Maemo is only on Nokia tablets.

johnkzin 2009-04-04 20:38

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 277478)
No. Maemo is only on Nokia tablets.

But, it remains to be seen whether or not Mer can be installed on it.

neatojones 2009-04-04 21:35

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 277102)
... Additionally, even if Mer is eventually made to work with the device, it seems likely WiMAX support would be missing.

Maybe not: http://www.linux-magazine.com/online...d_mode_setting This wby no means guarantees we'll ever get WiMAX to work, but it probably makes it a lot more likely.

sjgadsby 2009-04-04 23:37

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neatojones (Post 277490)
Maybe not: http://www.linux-magazine.com/online...d_mode_setting This wby no means guarantees we'll ever get WiMAX to work, but it probably makes it a lot more likely.

Thanks for that link. At least it shows a promising future for Linux WiMAX devices with Intel chips. And who knows, this Samsung device might just have a 5x50 chip hanging off an internal USB bus.

Aude Khatru 2009-04-15 21:00

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
I'd rather Windows Mobile than have to learn something newly annoying. WM is the beast I know.

johnkzin 2009-04-15 21:10

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aude Khatru (Post 279909)
I'd rather Windows Mobile than have to learn something newly annoying. WM is the beast I know.

Which new thing are you referring to?

Mer? Mer is, as far as I know, just like Maemo. If you're not already familiar with Maemo, why are you on this forum? :-)

Peet 2009-07-22 19:27

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Samsung Mondi is now nearing release (01 Aug) with suggested price of US$450. Apparently VOIP isn't possible with the current setup?!

How long until WinSung refugees begin begging for a Mer port? Has Samsung ever supported any open source effort?

sjgadsby 2009-07-22 19:33

Re: New Samsung Tablet.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peet (Post 306013)
Has Samsung ever supported any open source effort?

http://www.samsung.com/global/opensource/


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