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mivoligo 2009-12-24 21:42

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by conny (Post 440068)
I fail to see how being able to read notes makes it unusable. Portrait mode is optimized for one handed use and there is no portrait keyboard. So what do you expect? If it's about following links, there's already a bug report about it. What else?.

You right, I was thinking you can add on-screen keyboard for your application only. I'm ignorant. Sorry.


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There are currently two more plugins in developement. hopefully more in the future. It will make sense then.
O.K. now it makes sense. :)

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Could you please file a bug about this. Preferable with replacement strings.
I did that, but I'm not sure it was right place: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7318

epage 2009-12-25 02:08

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
I've looked several pages back into this threads history and just saw a passing comment about changing the way window handling is done.

Maybe I need to spend more time with it but I had gotten really used to keeping my most commonly used notes open all the time and then just using the task switcher to switch between them. Now I've got to switch to the open note and then go to the note switcher.

A thing in general about the note switcher not being kept as a separate window. It makes the user think a little extra before they perform their task. The user's mind has to think "I switch to TODO to open Shopping". With the new window handling its worst because the user will now have a different target in the task switcher any time they want to open a note. What about handling it like the web browser, the bookmarks window, and the bookmarks subwindow?

I'm curious, what was the instigator for the change?

conny 2009-12-25 10:28

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by robbie (Post 440177)
Thanks for the update.

Am i right that the option, open list on startup is missing?

Yes, you are right. there is already a bug report about it.

pitmac 2009-12-28 12:50

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Hello,

i'm a newbie to conboy on the maemo and from tomboy (Gnome-Mac OS X).

It is a very good beginning for me, to do my stuff:)

I'm searching for a way, to open my tomboy file with conboy on my N900.

I use the following environment:

1. Storeing the file under my Dropboxfolder user/tomboy
so i'll can use it although on my iMac

On my N900 i'll can't select any other file, see the picture below.
There is no access to the settings?

What is a practicably workaround?

Thx for your reply

conny 2009-12-29 10:31

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by epage (Post 441055)
I've looked several pages back into this threads history and just saw a passing comment about changing the way window handling is done.

Maybe I need to spend more time with it but I had gotten really used to keeping my most commonly used notes open all the time and then just using the task switcher to switch between them. Now I've got to switch to the open note and then go to the note switcher.

A thing in general about the note switcher not being kept as a separate window. It makes the user think a little extra before they perform their task. The user's mind has to think "I switch to TODO to open Shopping". With the new window handling its worst because the user will now have a different target in the task switcher any time they want to open a note. What about handling it like the web browser, the bookmarks window, and the bookmarks subwindow?

I'm curious, what was the instigator for the change?

The reason why it was changed is simple. Many people complained about the old (multi window) mode. It's difficult to make everyone happy and maybe the current behaviour needs a bit more tuning. Maybe I need to add the possibility to open a note in a new window. Maybe the note list should be a separate window. Feel free to discuss this here with different users. Let's see what people want. I personally don't care too much, because after 5 days I've adjusted to a new behaviour anyways.

From a developers point of view I would of course like to keep it simple. Supporting 5 different window handling modes is a lot of work and chances to introduce bugs is high.

conny 2009-12-29 10:39

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by pitmac (Post 443807)
Hello,

i'm a newbie to conboy on the maemo and from tomboy (Gnome-Mac OS X).

It is a very good beginning for me, to do my stuff:)

I'm searching for a way, to open my tomboy file with conboy on my N900.

I use the following environment:

1. Storeing the file under my Dropboxfolder user/tomboy
so i'll can use it although on my iMac

On my N900 i'll can't select any other file, see the picture below.
There is no access to the settings?

What is a practicably workaround?

Thx for your reply

I'm 100% sure that i understood what you're trying to do, so please correct me if I'm making wrong assumptions here.

I think there is currently no dropbox client for the N900, so syncing via dropbox is not possible. It is possible to send the tomboy notes to the N900 using for example scp or rsync. While doing this Conboy should not run.

I'm currently adding support to sync Conboy to the web (e.g. Ubuntu One or Snowy). Then you could sync Tomboy with Conboy via one of those web services.
At the moment there are still too many bugs, but as soon as they are fixed, this should be the best solution.

feydrutha 2009-12-30 08:25

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by conny (Post 44498)
I'm currently adding support to sync Conboy to the web (e.g. Ubuntu One or Snowy). Then you could sync Tomboy with Conboy via one of those web services.
At the moment there are still too many bugs, but as soon as they are fixed, this should be the best solution.

great! syncing in some form is THE killer feature for me. I use tomboy on linux for a sort of structured TODO list... I have tried conboy and it is nice but I will really start using it once I can sync it somehow. I currently use ubuntu one but I am willing to switch to any of the available options. even sync to folder + rsync.

Could you briefly explain how to manually do synchronization in the meantime (which files do I need to copy)? I could use an ssh server for instance. This way I can start using your program.

feydrutha 2009-12-30 12:11

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by feydrutha (Post 446343)
Could you briefly explain how to manually do synchronization in the meantime (which files do I need to copy)? I could use an ssh server for instance. This way I can start using your program.

Reply to myself: /home/user/.conboy, as mentioned here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38598

Sorry for not searching first ;-)

feydrutha 2010-01-01 14:13

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
I tried to use a quick and dirty solution for syncing conboy with tomboy, by using the tomboy option to sync over ssh, and some simple scp-based scripts on the n900 side. However tomboy syncing does not simply copy the .note files, but uses xml manifest files and organizes notes into sub-folders based on revision. So a quick scp will not work.
I guess I'll have to wait for the real thing ;-)

conny 2010-01-03 11:20

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by feydrutha (Post 448846)
I tried to use a quick and dirty solution for syncing conboy with tomboy, by using the tomboy option to sync over ssh, and some simple scp-based scripts on the n900 side. However tomboy syncing does not simply copy the .note files, but uses xml manifest files and organizes notes into sub-folders based on revision. So a quick scp will not work.
I guess I'll have to wait for the real thing ;-)

You can "sync" Tomboy and Conboy using scp or rsync. But if you use this, don't use the really Tomboy sync. Instead just copy the .notes files and only them.
Of course you won't get conflict handling, revisions, etc. Also while doing this Conboy should be off, because it won't recognize new notes while running. For Tomboy you could install the filesystem watcher plugin. This will update Tomboy whenever a new note was added to the filesystem.


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