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Khertan 2010-03-11 10:30

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Ok the last devel version fix one of my corrupted bullet corrupted note.

Thx :)

(And the sync with ubuntu one works very well)

KristianW 2010-03-11 14:42

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by sorodoros (Post 563330)
Excuse the ignorance, but that appears to require copying via xTerm, using the SCprotocol - just to get a note over to a PC? I was hoping for an "easy" way, like drag and drop or something. No?

Use e.g. emelfm2 filemanager to move/copy a Conboy note file to a FAT partition on your NIT.
Connect by USB to PC and use the PC to move the file there.
Both are drag-and-drop operations.

Or, as I do, I have symlinked /home/user/.conboy to a FAT partition.
Advantage: reflashing does not erase notes.

sorodoros 2010-03-11 19:57

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by KristianW (Post 563796)
Use e.g. emelfm2 filemanager to move/copy a Conboy note file to a FAT partition on your NIT.
Connect by USB to PC and use the PC to move the file there.
Both are drag-and-drop operations.

Or, as I do, I have symlinked /home/user/.conboy to a FAT partition.
Advantage: reflashing does not erase notes.

Thanks for that. Much appreciated.

Since we do not have anyway to sync Conboy .note files to a PC or Mac, it would be really great to have a very easy way to export or copy them over, short of having a "share via service" method.

If I symlink the conboy folder, it is still hidden, and still can't be seen by a PC, for example. Isn't that correct? Other Maemo note apps let you export your note to any directory, including an SD card. How hard would it be to export or even copy those Conboy .note files (.XML) to a non-hidden directory? Wouldn't that simplify things a lot, and possibly obviate the need for direct syncing to your desktop?

Flandry 2010-03-11 21:12

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Your PC knows nothing about the symlink or whatever you have called it. It just sees whatever folder you have pointed the symlink to.

The disadvantage is that the notes suddenly become unavailable to the N900 when you connect to the PC in mass storage mode, so you would probably want to close Conboy before doing that each time.

The alternative is to just type cp -r ~/.conboy ~/MyDocs/ before plugging in the USB. Then you have a copy visible to your PC.

sorodoros 2010-03-11 22:37

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 564307)
... just type cp -r ~/.conboy ~/MyDocs/ before plugging in the USB. Then you have a copy visible to your PC.

Yes, that does work perfectly. Thanks. What do you read/edit it with?

I see this as a good work-around, assuming the file is usable on aPC/Mac, but don't you thnk it would be better to export/copy the file as something actually usable?

Flandry 2010-03-11 23:14

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by sorodoros (Post 564390)
Yes, that does work perfectly. Thanks. What do you read/edit it with?

I see this as a good work-around, assuming the file is usable on aPC/Mac, but don't you thnk it would be better to export/copy the file as something actually usable?

Well, i guess "usable" is subjective. One of the selling points of Conboy, the raison d'être so to speak, is that it is compatible with Tomboy, a PC note app. It's probably best used by people who are going to use that capability.

On the other hand, one of the selling points of Zim, a somewhat similar wiki-notepad, is that it stores its notes in plain text. Maybe Zim is a better fit for you?

sorodoros 2010-03-11 23:32

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 564429)
Well, i guess "usable" is subjective. One of the selling points of Conboy, the raison d'être so to speak, is that it is compatible with Tomboy, a PC note app. It's probably best used by people who are going to use that capability.

On the other hand, one of the selling points of Zim, a somewhat similar wiki-notepad, is that it stores its notes in plain text. Maybe Zim is a better fit for you?

True, "usable" is certainly subjective.

I did try to open the Conboy notes in Tomboy, but nothing happened. Looks like there still needs to be a conversion of some sort?

Assuming Tomboy can read Conboy, (is it the only way to read/edit a Conboy file?) I would be very happy to use both if I could get it to work, and if there were a simple-non-terminal way for Tomboy to fetch a Conboy note off my n900, but it doesn't look like that is supported.

I still think that Conboy could export/copy a note to any directory as an editable file (XML, RTF, etc.) I guess consider that a feature request.

[edit] One can also place a shortcut (e.g., on your PC desktop) to the .conboy folder, and access that folder on the device quicky, even without any further xTerm commands. It seems running that command once unhides the folder permanently?

conny 2010-03-12 11:19

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by sorodoros (Post 564448)
True, "usable" is certainly subjective.

I did try to open the Conboy notes in Tomboy, but nothing happened. Looks like there still needs to be a conversion of some sort?

The note needs not to be converted. Conboy and Tomboy share the same file format. What desktop OS are you using? You need to copy the .note files into a directory Tomboy knows about. The directories are listed here: http://live.gnome.org/Tomboy/Directories
Also you should activate the "Note Directory Watcher" add-in in Tomboy. This plugin automatically loads new notes once they have been placed into the right directory.

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Assuming Tomboy can read Conboy, (is it the only way to read/edit a Conboy file?) I would be very happy to use both if I could get it to work, and if there were a simple-non-terminal way for Tomboy to fetch a Conboy note off my n900, but it doesn't look like that is supported.
You can read and write the .note files comfortably using Tomboy, GNote or Conboy. Using one of those application you'll have a note editing user interface. The other way to edit them is by using a text editor. You'll then have to edit the raw XML, which is probably not what you want.

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I still think that Conboy could export/copy a note to any directory as an editable file (XML, RTF, etc.) I guess consider that a feature request.
That's what I've said earlier. It's technically not a big problem to write such a converter and if someone sends me the code, I'm very happy to integrate it into Conboy.

Did you try the latest -devel version? It offers synchronization between Conboy <-> Ubuntu One <-> Tomboy. Maybe that's what you're looking for?

Or do you really just want an RTF, HTML representation of your note? What is your use case?

Khertan 2010-03-12 11:27

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
And for information i use the win version of tomboy at work synced with ubuntuone, conboy on the n900 synced too with ubuntuone, and on my 3 other linux machines i use also tomboy synced with ubuntuone.

And it s works very well, excepted yesterday for 2 hours as the ubuntuone server was down for hw upgrade, so cannot sync.

conny 2010-03-12 11:36

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by Khertan (Post 564912)
And for information i use the win version of tomboy at work synced with ubuntuone, conboy on the n900 synced too with ubuntuone, and on my 3 other linux machines i use also tomboy synced with ubuntuone.

Sound cool :) But please remember, it's not stable yet. I still only use it with a test account and not my "production" account/notes. I hope to add support for deleted notes during the weekend. After that some more polishing and it should go into a new release :)

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Originally Posted by Khertan (Post 564912)
And it s works very well, excepted yesterday for 2 hours as the ubuntuone server was down for hw upgrade, so cannot sync.

I noticed this too. I was developing at this time and though I broke my code. Turned out it wasn't my fault :) Well, anyways, as a result of this, the error messages in Conboy are a bit better now...


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