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mobilyaziar 2009-09-12 14:45

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Thank you very much para. I didn't know that the dot was making folders invisible.

Thanks conny. And thanks for this great software. It is the best!

mobilyaziar 2009-09-27 08:38

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
I cant find conboy files in any of backup zips. .gpe folder is there but no .conboy. Is this a bug or am i supposed to change a setting?

conny 2009-09-27 16:48

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilyaziar (Post 334620)
I cant find conboy files in any of backup zips. .gpe folder is there but no .conboy. Is this a bug or am i supposed to change a setting?

Just tested it again - seems to happen here too :(
I'll look into it.

EDIT: I found the reason and opened a bug. I'll release 0.5.5 tomorrow with a fix. Sorry :o

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5222

conny 2009-09-28 13:30

Conboy 0.5.5 released
 
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I just uploaded version 0.5.5 to the autobuilder so it should be available soon. As always it's available for Chinook, Diablo and Fremantle. This is only a bug fix release, so don't expect any new features. Still you should use the latest version, especially because of the fixed backup bug.
  • Backup works again
  • Fixed name in app manager
  • New tool bar icons in Fremantle. Thanks Tim!
  • Find toolbar gets now focused
  • Big package icon in Fremantle
  • Zoom works in Fremantle

This time only screen shots from Fremantle because the UI of the Diablo/Chinook version has not changed.

Tomorrow I'll release a first alpha version of 0.6.0 - stay tuned :)

Blahah 2009-09-29 18:03

Re: Conboy 0.5.5 released
 
Hi conny,

The 0.6 alpha fails with seg fault:

Code:

conboy[7693]: GLIB WARNING ** default - ERROR: Could not find 'Name' in /isr/lib/conboy/conboy_storage_midgard_plugin
INFO: Intialising ConboyPluginStore
conboy[7693]: GLIB CRITICAL ** default - conboy_plugin_info_get_module_name: assertion 'info != NULL' failed
Segmentation fault

Hope this helps. Is there some way I can downgrade to 0.5.5 again until the alpha is running?

- edit - no worries, I disable extras-devel repository then uninstalled 0.6.0/reinstalled 0.5.5

conny 2009-09-29 18:12

Re: Conboy 0.5.5 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blahah (Post 336176)
Hi conny,

The 0.6 alpha fails with seg fault:

Thanks, I also noticed that and that's the reason why I didn't announce anything yet ;) I think there will be a couple of alpha versons the next days. I'll write a bit more about it when I find some time. For now it's not really recommended to install them.

Anyway, thanks for the info :)

gerrymoth 2009-09-30 20:30

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Updated Conboy to v0.6.0 alpha1 and I can't get it to open anymore on my N800 :(

conny 2009-09-30 20:39

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerrymoth (Post 337017)
Updated Conboy to v0.6.0 alpha1 and I can't get it to open anymore on my N800 :(

try alpha3 it should work again. But still, expect stuff to break when using extras-devel :)

gerrymoth 2009-09-30 20:42

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 337021)
try alpha3 it should work again. But still, expect stuff to break when using extras-devel :)

Thanks, just updated and everything is working again.

Forgot I'd got extra-devel enabled

conny 2009-09-30 20:47

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
better not use it in production. It's totally unfinished. Even basic thinks don't work.

Blahah 2009-10-03 08:41

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
conny I have a feature request, to do with syncing.

I already have a sync setup working using unison, but it would be much easier if we could set the folder where the notes are stored as a config item, and if conboy could read notes in several folders in that location. That would allow us to sync the tomboy backups easily.

As it is, there's a complicated series of hoops to jump through involving a unionfs and unison setup with symbolic links.

Is conboy written in python? If so, I could help with development. If not, is there anything else I can do to help?

conny 2009-10-03 09:16

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blahah (Post 338658)
conny I have a feature request, to do with syncing.

I already have a sync setup working using unison, but it would be much easier if we could set the folder where the notes are stored as a config item, and if conboy could read notes in several folders in that location. That would allow us to sync the tomboy backups easily.

The request to be able to configure the directory where Conboy stores it notes has been there before. The problem is, that if we make the directory user configurable, the backup application on the tablets will not be able to find the notes. So backup will break. Because of this, I'm very careful about this request :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blahah (Post 338658)
As it is, there's a complicated series of hoops to jump through involving a unionfs and unison setup with symbolic links.

Hmm, that's bad, I was hoping that sym links should solve this problem easily. Unfortunately I've never tried unionfs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blahah (Post 338658)
Is conboy written in python? If so, I could help with development. If not, is there anything else I can do to help?

Conboy is written in C, but using C together with glib/Gtk is not that hard, maybe you want to give it a try?

Now, about the sync stuff. The 0.6-alpha version already contain support for the upcoming http://tomboy-online.org. Personally I think that's the way to go, so I'm putting my energy into that right now.

I could abstract the sync stuff a bit more and make it extensible with plugins, but I'll only do that if there is serious interest of someone who wants to implement different sync methods. For the unionfs problem, I think it would be best to implement a simple directory sync which syncs /home/user/.conboy/ with a other user configurable directory. This would also bring the benefit of conflict handling etc...

What do you think?

conny 2009-10-05 13:28

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Hi,

version 0.6.0-alpha8 in extras-devel is now more or less usable. I fixed all major crashers so it would be great if some of you could give it a try. But please first take a backup of your notes!

This version may not look like a lot has changed, but in fact almost the complete backend was rewritten. So it might be that there are regressions with even very simple things. No need to report them to bugzilla, just drop a short comment here.

Main changes since 0.5.x:
- Much of the backend rewritten
- Support for plugins
- Support for synchronization to Snowy
- New navigation. There is only one note window and the navigation works like in a browser with back/forward buttons.

Known issues:
- Conboy crashes when the Midgard plugin is selected. This plugin is just not finished yet.
- The settings UI under Diablo is quite ugly.
- Sync only works if you set up your own Snowy installation, because Snowy is not yet released :/

Anyways, I hope to get this version quickly into production. So please help me find the show stoppers!

Thanks!!!

Blahah 2009-10-06 15:07

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Awesome work on the snowy plugin! I'll put up a free snowy install for us all to use in the next few days.

I'm not ready to dive into C yet, but once I've done some development on bigger python projects I'll come back and dive in. For now I'll help out by testing and anything else I can think of.

conny 2009-10-06 17:27

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blahah (Post 340414)
Awesome work on the snowy plugin! I'll put up a free snowy install for us all to use in the next few days.

That's great and for testing this would really be cool. But don't get your hopes too high. I don't think Snowy is ready for production yet. There might be problems with security etc. Still it would be awesome for testing because then more people could try it and I'm sure my code needs a lot of testing ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blahah (Post 340414)
I'm not ready to dive into C yet, but once I've done some development on bigger python projects I'll come back and dive in. For now I'll help out by testing and anything else I can think of.

Sure, that's great too. Just tell me if you want to give it a try :) If you have problems with the Snowy install, just tell me or ask directly on the Snowy mailing list. They are nice people there.

conny 2009-10-07 15:43

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
I just uploaded Alpha9 to the autobuilder. And, in order to get more testers*, I added a nice new feature:
Autolinking of various URLs :)

So now if you write stuff like:
- http://bla
- ftp://blabla
- www.xzy.de
- ftp.bla.bl
- ich@home.com
- /home/user/MyDocs/document.txt

and some more. The text is automatically converted into a link and upon clicking this link a hopefully useful application opens.

So far so good, now I really must start to pack my stuff for the summit. I gotta run :)



* And because Quim asked so humble for it here: http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...l/conboy/0.5.5

Espen 2009-10-09 21:23

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 339743)
Hi,
Main changes since 0.5.x:
- Support for synchronization to Snowy

Known issues:
- Sync only works if you set up your own Snowy installation, because Snowy is not yet released ://

I really appreciate your efforts with this applications that I find very useful. However, I do hope sincerely that this doesn't mean that the local syncing will not be maintained and further developed.

I know there are many people with their head in a/the cloud that think (or could it be that it's what they don't do?) that's it is perfectly fine in general to put their most personal information on some unknowns server in an uknown place maintained by whoever.

I don't think so myself, and having the capacity to store a lot of information locally on my Maemo device is a major attractive feature. So you can at least count one user who just see Snowy (I guess that has something to do with "cloud") as a deviation from an otherwise very interesting application development.

Thanks for all the good work :) - and keep it up, please!

conny 2009-10-12 19:45

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Espen (Post 342931)
I really appreciate your efforts with this applications that I find very useful. However, I do hope sincerely that this doesn't mean that the local syncing will not be maintained and further developed.

I can understand your worries about saving stuff on some ones sever without having any control over it. I'm also trying to keep my data on devices where I have the control.

I'm very open to different sync mechanisms and I hope that at some point there will also be proper local sync or maybe sync via ssh, webdav, imap, etc... the only problem is that someone needs to implement it.

For the moment my focus is on syncing against Snowy, because I think that it will be the prefered solution for most users. Once that's stable I might implement other kinds of syncing. Or of course someone comes along and want to help with the implementation. That would definitely speed things up :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Espen (Post 342931)
I know there are many people with their head in a/the cloud that think (or could it be that it's what they don't do?) that's it is perfectly fine in general to put their most personal information on some unknowns server in an uknown place maintained by whoever.

I don't think so myself, and having the capacity to store a lot of information locally on my Maemo device is a major attractive feature. So you can at least count one user who just see Snowy (I guess that has something to do with "cloud") as a deviation from an otherwise very interesting application development.

As I said, I'm also not so happy about the cloud idea, but the good thing about Snowy is that it's completely free software. It's written in python and you could even install it on your desktop PC or notebook. Then your data would stay under your control.
More information about Snowy you can find here: http://live.gnome.org/Snowy and the source code is in gnome git.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Espen (Post 342931)
Thanks for all the good work :) - and keep it up, please!

I'm glad you like it and I welcome your input :) If you are interested in contributing or you know someone who might be, we could try on working together to implement a good local synchronization. Otherwise it will probably take some more time, but please feel free to add an enhancement request to bugzilla and outline how exactly you'd like to have it working. That will help me not to forget about it. Sorry for the slow answer, but I had to get some sleep after the Summit first :)

conny 2009-10-15 08:00

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Version 0.5.6 in in extras-testing now. The main change is, that the automatic rotation is working again.

Sorry that it took me so long, I was struggling with some repository problems.

Please test it and rate it here:
http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...l/conboy/0.5.6

Hopefully it will go to extras very soon :)

conny 2009-10-18 10:55

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Version 0.6.0-alpha11 is now in extras-devel. It's now called conboy-unstable to make clear what it is.

If you're having a N900 you should really give it a try as it has much improved Maemo 5 support and new features which make it even more fun to use :)

The file format between the stable and the unstable version is the same, so switching back to stable is always possible.

The main visible changes between stable and unstable are:
  • Cleaner UI on N900
  • Improved portrait mode
  • Synchronization support
  • Automatic linking of many URIs

Feedback and suggestions are (as always) very welcome!

conny 2009-10-23 17:02

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Dear Conboy translators!

Please have a look at this thread, try out the process and tell us what you think about it!
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=356633

Thanks!

peterk1 2009-10-23 17:29

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
@conny

Hi,
it would be great if Tomboy clone could be
password protected.

(eg. accounts, payments...)

thx
Peter

conny 2009-11-09 19:58

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Peter, sorry for the horrid delay, I somehow missed you post. Sorry.

Could you please elaborate a bit more on how the password protection should work? I mean could you outline how you, from a user perspective would like it to work?

ovjo12 2009-11-10 17:11

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Hi,
Any plans to be able to sync with Evernote?
/ove

conny 2009-11-10 17:33

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ovjo12 (Post 371414)
Hi,
Any plans to be able to sync with Evernote?
/ove

Personally not, but I was contacted by someone a short time ago who wants to make it happen. We're still in the very early planning phase, so I can't make any promises. Let's see how it goes.

ovjo12 2009-11-10 23:24

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
The latest unstable version (0.6.11) stop working for me, main-screen don't show up, nothing happen. Then I uninstall it and then reinstall it, but it don't work.

Then I install the stable version (0.5.8) and main screen show up, but I am unable to edit the text. Perhaps because I created it the newer version?

What to do?
I would like to use the unstable version, but I can't get it working at all.

Regards,
Ove

conny 2009-11-11 08:31

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
On which device are you using it? N800, N810 or N900? I tested the last unstable version only on N900, but 0.5.8 should work as usual on all devices. Also the file format did not change between stable and unstable, so they should be fully compatible.

Could you try to start it from xterm and post the output here? This could help debugging.

ovjo12 2009-11-11 09:28

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 372111)
On which device are you using it? N800, N810 or N900? I tested the last unstable version only on N900, but 0.5.8 should work as usual on all devices. Also the file format did not change between stable and unstable, so they should be fully compatible.

Could you try to start it from xterm and post the output here? This could help debugging.

Hi,
I have a N900.

This is what I get when starting version 0.5.8 with xterm:
Hildon INIT
Screen size: 800*480
Loading 2 notes took 22064 micro seconds
Starting conboy, version 0.5.8
INFO: Accelerometers enabled
INFO: Dbus said orientation is: portrait
using pannable area
screen size: 480*800
Screen size: 800*480
INFO: Accelererometers disabled

Regards,
Ove

conny 2009-11-11 09:52

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ovjo12 (Post 372143)
Hi,
I have a N900.

This is what I get when starting version 0.5.8 with xterm:
Hildon INIT
Screen size: 800*480
Loading 2 notes took 22064 micro seconds
Starting conboy, version 0.5.8
INFO: Accelerometers enabled
INFO: Dbus said orientation is: portrait
using pannable area
screen size: 480*800
Screen size: 800*480
INFO: Accelererometers disabled

Regards,
Ove

Thanks for the console output, it looks like it should. I just tested 0.5.8 and 0.6.1.1 again and both work as expected on my device.

In portrait mode editing is disabled to prevent the onscreen keyboard from popping up, but it's automatically enabled again when you return to landscape mode. Maybe there's a bug somewhere, try switching between landscape/portrait a couple of times and see if this changes something. Unfortunately that's my only guess right now.

About the 0.6.1.1 version, could you provide me the console output as well?

ovjo12 2009-11-11 10:39

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 372168)
Thanks for the console output, it looks like it should. I just tested 0.5.8 and 0.6.1.1 again and both work as expected on my device.

In portrait mode editing is disabled to prevent the onscreen keyboard from popping up, but it's automatically enabled again when you return to landscape mode. Maybe there's a bug somewhere, try switching between landscape/portrait a couple of times and see if this changes something. Unfortunately that's my only guess right now.

About the 0.6.1.1 version, could you provide me the console output as well?

I got it working after I removed the battery, works now with both version
regards,
ove

conny 2009-11-11 11:29

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Wow, that's strange. But I'm glad it works for you now!

conny 2009-11-13 10:55

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Conboy 0.5.8 is on itīs way into extras for Chinook, Diablo and Fremantle.

This is only a maintenance release with only one bug fixed, but many new translations.
Thanks a lot to everyone who was involved in translating Conboy into the following languages:
  • Arabic
  • Dutch (Flemish)
  • Finish
  • French
  • German
  • Italian
  • Polish
  • Portuguese (Brazilian)
  • Slovak
  • Spanish (Castilian)
  • Turkish

conny 2009-11-21 11:11

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
conboy-unstable 0.6.1.3 now supports synchronization with Ubuntu One. Give it a try and also check out the new fullscreen mode on Fremantle.

Sync should work on Diablo too, but there seems to be a problem with the browser. I've to look into that, please report if it works for you!

Ah the url which you have to enter is https://one.ubuntu.com/notes

conny 2009-11-21 18:28

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Hi,

I've created a small screencast which demonstrates synchronization between Conboy and Ubuntu One.

http://zwong.de/wp-content/uploads/2...onboy_sync.ogv

If someone wants to upload it to youtube or something like that, please do so and post the link here. Thanks!

Gadgety 2009-11-22 13:20

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Yes. Please someone post to YouTube. I downloaded Firefox 3.5.5 which supposedly had ogg video compatibility natively, but it won't play this video.

karatchov 2009-11-22 13:30

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
just download the file, and open it with VLC or kmplayer. Even windows media player can read it

@conny: Great application, I'll be giving the unstable version a try this week, and how it performs with sync

Gadgety 2009-11-22 14:33

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
WMP can't read the file. Thanks for the heads up on VLC. I've seen the video. I'd like to check my understanding of Conboy and I've got the following questions:

1. a) Will Conboy allow multiple tags on entries, and then sorting along those tags?
1. b) If that is possible, is there any maximum allowable number?
2. Will Conboy allow sorting of items by date of creation for an item?
3. Is it/will it be searchable?

Thanks!

conny 2009-11-22 16:12

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadgety (Post 386030)
WMP can't read the file. Thanks for the heads up on VLC. I've seen the video. I'd like to check my understanding of Conboy and I've got the following questions:

Here is a avi/mp4 version. Maybe that works better for you.
http://zwong.de/wp-content/uploads/2...onboy_sync.avi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadgety (Post 386030)
1. a) Will Conboy allow multiple tags on entries, and then sorting along those tags?
1. b) If that is possible, is there any maximum allowable number?

An unlimited number of tags are supported by the file format, but currently Conboy does not make use of them. I'm not sure if I'll add support for that soon. If someone else want to help that would be of course cool :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadgety (Post 386030)
2. Will Conboy allow sorting of items by date of creation for an item?

Currently you have two option for sorting. 'Sort by name' which sorts alphabetically and 'Sort by date' which sorts by the last changed date.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadgety (Post 386030)
3. Is it/will it be searchable?

If you search, the fulltext of all notes is searched. This even happens while you type, so it's very convenient. In fact I've always have the notes sorted by last change date and then just search. Never felt the need to have something else ;)

All of this is already available in the stable 0.5.x. The new 0.6.x mainly brings a new single window UI and the synchronization.

Nelson L. Squeeko 2009-11-24 18:59

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 385093)
Sync should work on Diablo too, but there seems to be a problem with the browser. I've to look into that, please report if it works for you!

Any more word on how this works in Diablo. Any way to make the browswer confirmation work in Tear in case it handles it better?

I just got my Tomboy notes on my laptop synced to Ubuntu One, Conboy is waiting.

Also, how "unstable" is the devel version? I can give it a try but I don't want to mess up my tablet.

conny 2009-11-24 20:34

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nelson L. Squeeko (Post 389587)
Any more word on how this works in Diablo. Any way to make the browswer confirmation work in Tear in case it handles it better?

I just got my Tomboy notes on my laptop synced to Ubuntu One, Conboy is waiting.

Also, how "unstable" is the devel version? I can give it a try but I don't want to mess up my tablet.

The unstable version is not that unstable. It won't mess up your tablet, but it might mess up your notes. So back them up before and everything should be fine. Include notes on Ubuntu One in the backup as well.

I did only test in once on Diablo and the problem there was, that the browser was not redirecting to Conboy after the authentication. Because of that Conboy didn't receive the necessary authentication information from Ubuntu one and thus could not sync.

I'm not sure where the problem lies. Maybe I should clean up my N810?! No idea how/if it works with tear, but it would be great if you could give it a try.

As I said, don't worry about your tablet. Just be a bit careful with your notes.


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