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Nelson L. Squeeko 2009-11-25 03:00

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
No luck on my device in the Authentication process. In the web browser it loads a blank page and nothing happens. In Tear after clicking on the button the allow the tablet to access the progress bar goes back/forth like the browser is searching.

Nelson L. Squeeko 2009-11-25 04:27

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
UPDATE!!! Got it to work on Diablo.

After seeing this post
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=359792&postcount=3
I thought I'd install Fennec (now Firefox) with the off-chance it would work. Turns out it does. Sync worked perfectly.

conny 2009-11-25 06:55

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Wow, that's awsome! Thanks so much for the info. I'll install fennec as soon as I can :)

Some more notes about the sync:
- Deletions are not yet synced
- There is a Ubunu One bug with nested bullet lists

conny 2009-11-25 08:18

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
@Nelson how did you make fennic the default browser to make this work? If yes, how?

Nelson L. Squeeko 2009-11-25 13:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 390789)
@Nelson how did you make fennic the default browser to make this work? If yes, how?

Nope, didn't make fennec the default browswer. When Conboy opens up the browswer at the Ubuntu One login page, I copied the URL and then pasted it into fennec's address bar. Then just follow the steps.

I would be good to figure out why it only seems to work in Fennec, but on the plus side Fennec runs a lot smoother than the last time I installed it.

conny 2009-11-25 13:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nelson L. Squeeko (Post 391316)
Nope, didn't make fennec the default browswer. When Conboy opens up the browswer at the Ubuntu One login page, I copied the URL and then pasted it into fennec's address bar. Then just follow the steps.

Ok, now itīs clear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nelson L. Squeeko (Post 391316)
I would be good to figure out why it only seems to work in Fennec, but on the plus side Fennec runs a lot smoother than the last time I installed it.

I was thinking about opening a bug on the Ubuntu One bug tracker, but Iīm not sure they will care about it. It looks like they are doing the redirection in a way which is not compatible with Diablos browser. But it should be possible for them to change it. If they want of course...

Nelson L. Squeeko 2009-11-26 13:52

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
I've encountered an issue with syncing. (on Diablo)

I had had some notes on my tablet that needed uploaded to Ubuntu One as well as some on my laptop. I synced the ones on the laptop first (about 9 of them) and then synced the ones on the tablet. The tablet was able to upload the notes I modified on it, but then didn't download any of the new notes from the laptop. There may have been an issue where I had modified the file on both machines and therefore got confused. I had an error that said something about the files on the tablet were newer than those on the server. Still, there was some notes on my laptop that were new and hadn't been on the tablet. I was able to get the tablet to download those notes after a redo of the authentication process. I also did a test of 3 new notes on each machine. I first did a sync on the tablet, then the laptop, then the tablet again to get the laptops files. This worked.

I'm going to try and make it a habit that anytime I finish any set of notes, I sync them with Ubuntu One as soon as I can, and try and do it from the tablet first. I'll post anything if I run into any more problems.

conny 2009-11-26 17:32

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Nelson, thanks for all the testing. I really appreciate that! My time is so limited right know that I really can use all the help I can get :)
So please report your findings here. Thank you!

conny 2009-11-26 19:52

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
One more thing, even I think you already figured it out: If you reauthenticate Conboy with Ubunu One, the local sync history is deleted and you get a full sync afterwards. Might be helpful while testing.

conny 2009-11-26 20:07

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
I filed a bug against Ubuntu One. Let's see what happens:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone...rs/+bug/488922

Nelson L. Squeeko 2009-11-26 21:22

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 394431)
One more thing, even I think you already figured it out: If you reauthenticate Conboy with Ubunu One, the local sync history is deleted and you get a full sync afterwards. Might be helpful while testing.

That's what I did to get it working again. Takes a bit longer, but at least there's always a fall back.

jukey 2009-11-27 15:08

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nelson L. Squeeko (Post 390530)
UPDATE!!! Got it to work on Diablo.

After seeing this post
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=359792&postcount=3
I thought I'd install Fennec (now Firefox) with the off-chance it would work. Turns out it does. Sync worked perfectly.

I also was able to activate sync to one.ubuntu.com but if I try to synchronize for the first time (using the menu entry) I get error message "Server revision older than your revision". I'm using the N900 and fremantle.

What's wrong? :)

Nelson L. Squeeko 2009-11-27 23:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jukey (Post 396141)
I also was able to activate sync to one.ubuntu.com but if I try to synchronize for the first time (using the menu entry) I get error message "Server revision older than your revision". I'm using the N900 and fremantle.

What's wrong? :)

That's the error message I had. I solved it by re-authenticating Conboy with the server, but I just tried re-syncing again and it seems to be back.

conny 2009-11-30 07:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jukey (Post 396141)
I also was able to activate sync to one.ubuntu.com but if I try to synchronize for the first time (using the menu entry) I get error message "Server revision older than your revision". I'm using the N900 and fremantle.

What's wrong? :)

Did reconnecting to Ubuntu One, like Nelson suggested, help?

jukey 2009-11-30 16:54

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 400214)
Did reconnecting to Ubuntu One, like Nelson suggested, help?

No, the same error occurs. I tried to use the URL incuding the token via Firefox on my Desktop PC but only a black website comes up (like in microb). So I tried again using fennec on the n900 and after I have choosen a name for the accessing computer I get the dialogue you can see in this Screenshot:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ju-key/4146968439

Whatever I do in this dialogue after I press OK conboy is telling me everything is fine and if I try to sync the next time I get the message about the version again.

If you prefer to track this in bugs.maemo.org please let me know.

Ciao jukey

conny 2009-11-30 19:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jukey (Post 400936)
No, the same error occurs. I tried to use the URL incuding the token via Firefox on my Desktop PC but only a black website comes up (like in microb). So I tried again using fennec on the n900 and after I have choosen a name for the accessing computer I get the dialogue you can see in this Screenshot:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ju-key/4146968439

Whatever I do in this dialogue after I press OK conboy is telling me everything is fine and if I try to sync the next time I get the message about the version again.

If you get the message that everything is fine, the authentication process was probably successful. Usually I don't trust error messages, but here I'm quite certain.

So the problem really seems to be the revision number. Which is normally reseted to 0 after authentication and thus cannot be lower/older than the server revision. Theoretically ;)

Could you please go to the terminal post the output the following commands here:
Code:

gconftool -g /apps/maemo/conboy/last_sync_rev
gconftool -g /apps/maemo/conboy/last_sync_time

Then we can try to manually reset those values using
Code:

gconftool -u /apps/maemo/conboy/last_sync_rev
gconftool -u /apps/maemo/conboy/last_sync_time

After that please try again to sync. If it does not work, try to run Conboy from the terminal and past the debugging output here. The debug output might include the content of your notes, so please consider this before posting :)

jukey 2009-12-01 09:24

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 401222)
Could you please go to the terminal post the output the following commands here:
Code:

gconftool -g /apps/maemo/conboy/last_sync_rev
gconftool -g /apps/maemo/conboy/last_sync_time


~ $ gconftool -g /apps/maemo/conboy/last_sync_rev
0
~ $ gconftool -g /apps/maemo/conboy/last_sync_time
0

Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 401222)
Then we can try to manually reset those values using
Code:

gconftool -u /apps/maemo/conboy/last_sync_rev
gconftool -u /apps/maemo/conboy/last_sync_time

After that please try again to sync. If it does not work, try to run Conboy from the terminal and past the debugging output here.
The debug output might include the content of your notes, so please consider this before posting :)

After doing that I got the same error message again. I'll send the xterm output as PM.

Ciao jukey

conny 2009-12-01 09:48

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jukey (Post 402340)
After doing that I got the same error message again. I'll send the xterm output as PM.

Thanks for testing and the PM with the details. So far I couldnīt see something obvious wrong, but Iīll look into it deeper in the evening.
Did you try to sync Tomboy with Ubuntu One? Maybe this problem only occurs during the initial sync.
My account was first synced with Tomboy and then later with Conboy. Probably I should create a new account and give it a try...

conny 2009-12-01 17:05

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
I just did some more testing myself and got a lot of non working scenarios too. I hope I'll find some time on the weekend to work on that.

robbie 2009-12-02 13:26

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Just tried Conboy and i have some quirks. Not sure if it's bugreport worthy.

- The Settings screen is only availible from a note and not from the list.
- When you have a list window and note window open, the app closes when you close the note. My expected outcome would be that it would jump to the list instead.
- If you press list on the notes screen. It opens a new window instead of replacing the note. If you try to find one note and open a note, press list, open note, press list, open note, press list, open note you'll end up with a lot of open notes. Also: It's not consistent with opening a note from the list. The list window is replaced with the note.

I come from Palm and there you do everything from the list. You cannot have multiple notes open. So maybe it's just something i have get used to.

If you want to keep current behaviour, maybe you can open the note in a new window but keep the list in background. That way, when you close the note, you're back at the list.

If you want, i can describe my wished behaviour in a use-case style.

And is it hard to make the list sortable on title/date?

conny 2009-12-02 18:12

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie (Post 404726)
Just tried Conboy and i have some quirks. Not sure if it's bugreport worthy.

- The Settings screen is only availible from a note and not from the list.

That's true. I think it was intentional as I imagined the list view to be only a kind of pop-up. But yea, could be easily changed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie (Post 404726)
- When you have a list window and note window open, the app closes when you close the note. My expected outcome would be that it would jump to the list instead.

Yea, that's a bit annoying I know. The current unstable version fixes that. There's only one note window at the time and the list window is not a separate window but belongs to the note window.
You can't have the situation there that you have a list window without a note window.


Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie (Post 404726)
- If you press list on the notes screen. It opens a new window instead of replacing the note. If you try to find one note and open a note, press list, open note, press list, open note, press list, open note you'll end up with a lot of open notes. Also: It's not consistent with opening a note from the list. The list window is replaced with the note.

Also fixed in the upcoming version. See above.

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie (Post 404726)
I come from Palm and there you do everything from the list. You cannot have multiple notes open. So maybe it's just something i have get used to.

If you want to keep current behaviour, maybe you can open the note in a new window but keep the list in background. That way, when you close the note, you're back at the list.

I think the upcoming version is really much better with that and probably much more what you would expect. If you are a bit adventurous you can test it already. It's called conboy-unstable and you can find it in extras-devel.
I would consider it mostly stable, only the synchronization is still very buggy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie (Post 404726)
If you want, i can describe my wished behaviour in a use-case style.

It's fine like that - really :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie (Post 404726)
And is it hard to make the list sortable on title/date?

That should already be possible. Just go to the list view, open the menu and select "Sort by title" or "Sort by date".

Thanks for your input and if there is anything else - just let me know :)

robbie 2009-12-03 06:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 405471)
That should already be possible. Just go to the list view, open the menu and select "Sort by title" or "Sort by date".

Thanks for your input and if there is anything else - just let me know :)

Thanks for your response.

The sorting is probably also in the new version. It's not in the one from extras (v0.5.8). I don't have syncing planned so i can use the new version.

So it seems that i have to enable extras-devel then. It's faster than i thought :) Maybe possible to install from deb?

conny 2009-12-03 07:59

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie (Post 406762)
So it seems that i have to enable extras-devel then. It's faster than i thought :) Maybe possible to install from deb?

It's possible, but you also need some dependencies etc. I wouldn't recommend it. Instead turn on extras-devel. Install conboy-unstable. And then deactivate extras-devel again. If the phone offers you updates while extras-devel is activated, ignore them.
Also you need to uninstall conboy before you can install conboy-unstable. And to be on the save side, create a backup before you start :)

If that sounds too scary, then wait a bit. I'm hoping to push the new version to extras-testing quite soon. Maybe even on the weekend. It depends how much work I get done in Barcelona :)

Sangheili 2009-12-06 04:03

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
I've been enjoying Conboy but I have a question.

I used to use a note taking app on Android called 3banana. They have a website where you edit your notes/add new ones/etc - it functions very similar to Google Notebook. When you edit a note on the Android client it then syncs to the website. This was very handy to have notes always accessible.

Is there any similar functionality with Conboy? I primarily use Windows PC's and would love the ability to sync/view my notes online.

Edit: Just discovered the Ubuntu one service and integration. Testing it out right now :-)

Edit2: Couldn't get it to Authenticate. Browser just ends up showing me a blank white page after I add the device to one.unbuntu.com - Logging out from desktop and N900 didn't help. Closing and relaunching Conboy didn't help.

jukey 2009-12-06 19:37

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sangheili (Post 412500)
Edit2: Couldn't get it to Authenticate. Browser just ends up showing me a blank white page after I add the device to one.unbuntu.com - Logging out from desktop and N900 didn't help. Closing and relaunching Conboy didn't help.

Hi, there are bugs at the moment. The first bug is the problem that microb does not work as part of the authentication process. As workaround you can use fennec/firefox. But there is a second bug: It seems to be a problem to synchronize the first time conboy and ubuntu one. Conny, the author of conboy is aware of both bugs.

Ciao jukey

conny 2009-12-11 09:49

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Sorry for not replying earlier. I was in Barcelona, first for the Maemo Hackfest, then for holidays :)

As Jukey said, there are still a couple of bugs. Most on my side, but also some on Ubuntus side. I'll try to fix those as soon as I can, but unfortunately I'm currently also busy with "normal life" stuff.
Watch this thread. I'll announce everything here :)

fpp 2009-12-12 17:39

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Any news on the "Evernote" front ?

It seems that the standard Maemo5 approach is to have a standard "share" icon in the app's toolbar. That icon pulls up a menu of "sharing services" (like Evernote) and sends whatever the app is doing to whichever service is selected.

Looks like it's one-way (push). Would such a scheme work for Conboy ?

conny 2009-12-13 15:20

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Pushing like this through the sharing plugins should be possible. But before we send the note we need to convert it to something other services will understand. Probably HTML would be best? Does anybody know which formats evernote accepts via this its Maemo5 plugin?

qwerty12 2009-12-13 15:40

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 425705)
Does anybody know which formats evernote accepts via this its Maemo5 plugin?

I know it supports PDF (Anidel linked me to one uploaded from his N900 after showing him the dlopen trick...).

I uploaded an HTML file (saved from the Maemo Browser) using Petrovich, and I get:

http://imgur.com/43dKt.png
http://imgur.com/0zaW4.png

Not sure what to make of the above...

tomchiverton 2009-12-13 15:44

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Is spell checking going to be added to this (or another app) at any point, does anyone know ?

conny 2009-12-13 16:14

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 425722)
I know it supports PDF (Anidel linked me to one uploaded from his N900 after showing him the dlopen trick...).

I uploaded an HTML file (saved from the Maemo Browser) using Petrovich, and I get:

Not sure what to make of the above...

Hmm, doesn't look too good :/ And converting to PDF is a bit overkill...

conny 2009-12-13 16:17

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomchiverton (Post 425726)
Is spell checking going to be added to this (or another app) at any point, does anyone know ?

I don't know about other applications, but for Conboy I currently have no plans to add it. But of course feel free to add an enhancement request to bugzilla.

In fact I'm not even sure whether or not there is platform support for it.

conny 2009-12-14 16:33

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It looks like I cannot fix the broken word completion in Fremantle. What do you guys think? Leave the broken behavior or disable word completion completely?

mivoligo 2009-12-14 21:01

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
I found something about sync with Ubuntu One. Maybe it'll be helpful. But you probably aware of that. http://arstechnica.com/open-source/g...buntu-one.ars/

conny 2009-12-15 09:11

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mivoligo (Post 427769)
I found something about sync with Ubuntu One. Maybe it'll be helpful. But you probably aware of that. http://arstechnica.com/open-source/g...buntu-one.ars/

Thanks that was an interesting read. It's not really related to Conboy, but still interesting. Conboy talks to Ubuntu One not using CouchDB, but using the REST API. The advantage is, that we can also sync to other services which implement this API.
Those are currently:
  • Snowy: Open source web service and web interface which you can install on your own servers if you want. Developed mostly be the Tomboy guys. Hopefully soon in beta stage.
  • Midgard: Open source content repository which is used as backend for maemo.org in many places. Still needs support for OAuth 1.0a. Will hopefully come soon.
  • Ubuntu One: Not open source, but more or less working service from Canonical.
Soon the first two projects (Snowy and Midgard) will offer a hosted service. Snowy will power www.tomboy-online.org and Midgard will offer the service on maemo.org.

There are still bugs with all involved parties, but I would expect something that is ready for production use in about half a year maximum.

bergie 2009-12-15 13:08

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 428635)
Thanks that was an interesting read. It's not really related to Conboy, but still interesting. Conboy talks to Ubuntu One not using CouchDB, but using the REST API. The advantage is, that we can also sync to other services which implement this API.

If you install the Midgard storage plug-in for Conboy (when it is done), you'll be able to skip the cloud completely and use replication features for syncing notes.

illemann 2009-12-15 22:36

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Would be very nice to have export and import to the notetaking app in the calendar, in this way i would have my notes in outlook to!

Possible? Feature for the future?

illemann 2009-12-15 22:48

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Would it be possible to make it export and import notes from the built in app, so i can have the notes synced with outlook.


An example of bullets would convert to the "-" sign for instance. Others could be stripped. To keep compatability.

thx for listening.

conny 2009-12-16 09:50

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
I didnīt yet look at the calendar API, but I think it should be possible. Of course (as you already pointed out) there is the issue of loosing text styles, bullet indentation, etc.

Could you please file an enhancement request here: https://bugs.maemo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Conboy

It helps me not to forget and other people can vote on it.
Thanks!

ehab 2009-12-20 01:27

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When i press authenticate after entering https://one.ubuntu.com/notes it tells me after a while "Could not connect to host" but i can enter this url in the browser and login.

Ehab
http://www.elmotaheda.com/


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