Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Tried it but I can't let my iPhoned colleagues see it - it's quite ugly right now and IMO not ready for use yet, unlike conboy (and yes, I did contact notecase support about it).

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Unfortunately I can´t make an estimate on that right now. However, I think there is already an enhancement request about it in bugzilla, so you can subscribe to it to get updates. If it´s not yet there, please feel free to add it. Thanks :)

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Love this app. By far the most useful app on the device for me.

Could someone please help me please though. How do I back up my note? Have around 50 important notes now and would cry if I lost them. Read from page 1 to 14 to try to find how but there was already talk on page 13 of back up without me seeing any instructions on how to do it.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Glad you like it :)

Just use the build-in backup application of the device. You find in the the application "more..." menu. 3rd row, 1st column.

If for any reason you don´t want to backup all your data but only the notes, you can copy the folder /home/user/.conboy somewhere. All notes are stored inside this folder.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

1. I have copied all my 98 notes to my pc for backup. I tried to open them on my pc to see if I could edit them but Windows could recognise the file. I downloaded Tomboy to see if that would work but it didn't. So am I write in thinking the files can only be viewed on the N900.

2. I have noticed that on my N900 at least (not sure if it is a widespread problem) Conboy has a conflict with QStar Dict. If QStar is open then Conboy freezes up and becomes unusable. Not sure if the problem is from Conboy or from QStar.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

It won't be pretty, but if nothing else, you should be able to open the files in Notepad in Windows, although you won't be able to see the formatting. I don't know how to get Tomboy to open them in Windows as I've never used it, but I believe Conboy does use the same file format as Tomboy so it should be possible.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Notepad didn't seem to work but Wordpad did and it is very very very far from pretty. It shows all the codes like <bold> <text xml:space="preserve"><note-content version="0.1">.

But at least I can see the contents of my notes in case something every happens to my N900.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Forget your thesis, we need syncing! Have you no sense of priorities?

<g>

But seriously -- Conboy seems currently the best note-taker available. But I have spent many hours looking for a more mind-mapping option. I am actually a paid member at www.mindmeister.com, which is close, but just doesn't work quite right on the N900. I was a long-term fan of thebrain.com (and paid for it) but that would never work on a tablet. Xournal doesn't do it for me. Labyrinth was close, but it is not currently available for the N900. Evernote is nice, but not quite. My favorite solution for tablets so far was Notecase, which is no longer being developed, but which can still be used, I think.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

You need to copy the notes into a special folder, otherwise Tomboy won't find them. The directories are listed here: http://live.gnome.org/Tomboy/Directories Also I think Tomboy should not run while copying the notes.

Never heard of that, but then again never heard of QStar as well ;) If it's really bothering you, please file a bug and I'll see what I can do.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Ah right, what was I thinking? :p

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Notecase has been transformed into the commercial Notecase Pro which is also available as a limited unregistered version.
This version has some advanced features the community version did not have though lacks some other which were present.
However it looks to be pretty usable.
From all solutions I have seen so far on maemo Maepad comes closest to Notecase.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Conboy has a great feel on the N900 - thanks very much!

One word of caution: I just moved across 300 notes from Notecase into Tomboy on the laptop, then onto the N900 using SSH and WinSCP. It looked fine and I could edit them in Conboy but all changes were lost *without warning* when I closed the app because they had been imported as read-only. Don't forget to right-click in WinSCP or whatever prog you use and set write-permission in properties - only takes seconds.

All working very well now; has to be one of the most useful apps and search is *much* faster than notecase searching the same set of notes.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

For the adventurous of you, there is a new version (0.6.3.2) in Extras-Devel. I've fixed some sync issues, although I'm sure there are still some left.
As usual, please make a backup before trying! Also you should not try it with your production U1 account. I once had the situation, that after a sync I couldn't access U1 notes at all.

Also please note, that synchronization of deleted message is not yet supported.

There are still some U1 bugs left as well. In short:
- Don't use the ampersand character (&) in the title of a note. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone...rs/+bug/490969
- It is somehow possible to upload a (invalid) note to U1. U1 will not block this, and later does not allow you to access your notes. Happened to me once, but I couldn't reproduce. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone...rs/+bug/526269
- Older notes, that have been edited with the U1 web interface, are converted to invalid XML. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone...rs/+bug/527335

Anyways, have fun :)

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Hi Conny, thank you so much for your efforts! I tried again and now it synchronization with Ubuntu One works fine. :)

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Great app Conny! I espcially like t hat I can create and edit notes on my desktop and send them over to my tablet for reference or further editing. I have been using conboy on my n800 and have had a home grown sync with my linux desktop tomboy via some scripts, ssh, rsync - I look forward to trying the U1 sync instead.

One odd thing that I noticed that may or may have to do with conboy: Certain notes created on conboy crash tomboy with the a long error that starts with:

and about 30 more lines of 'at' blah blah blah. . . .

These notes originally worked on tomboy a few months ago (not sure what version) or maybe it was something that changed in conboy.

Anyway when I try gnote, the notes open fine, so the problem in probably with tomboy - still I thought I'd bring it up in case anyone had a similar issue.

For reference:
Tomboy version: 1.0.0
Conboy version: 0.6.3.1

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Glad you like it :) The U1 sync still needs more love, but it will certainly come.

Hmm, that's not good. There is an issue that Conboy produces invalid note files under some conditions. Unfortunately I've still not figured out, what the problem is. Would it be possible, that you send me one of those corrupt note files? I could look at the XML inside the note and see what the problem is.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

I attached two problem notes I found out of about 35 notes. To correct what I previously posted: gnote will open all my notes but these two show up blank. Tomboy will open other notes but will crash with the above error when I open them. Also Tomboy will not allow me to create or delete any notes. Conboy handles them without an issue. The notes are simple lists, no bullets, etc.

One thing I did notice is that conboy and gnote list the last changed date of the 'Ohio' note as 01/01/1970 and 12/31/1969 respectively.

Once I manually removed the two problem notes tomboy allowed me to create and delete notes. Which is nice cause now I can try U1 syncing ;)

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Thank you for providing those notes! It's strange that Conboy can actually handle them, because they are really messed up. Both notes have the </text> tag at the wrong position. That is something I've not seen yet. I will look into this issue further, but for now, I still have no idea what's going on :(

Yea, that's because this note has two blocks containing the metadata. One with the correct data and another one with 0-values, which translates to those strange dates. I've never seen that before either.

That's great, but please please make plenty of backups - this is still highly experimental :)
Anyways I'm happy to hear about your experiences with the sync stuff.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Hmm I wonder if has anything to do with my sync setup and not with anything conboy is doing. I have previously had the tablet send the notes over rsync+ssh when I connected to my home network. Tomboy initially was fine with the notes sent via this setup but about a month ago it 'broke'. These sync'd quite a lot - every time my tablet connected to my home network. Perhaps a transfer got messed up somewhere along the way. Conboy chugged along just fine so I just used that and periodically gnote. I did not really stop and take a look at the problem notes until I read that tomboy and conboy support U1 and wanted to try it.

I just do not want to fill you new obtained thesis free time with problems that may not be conboy's fault. :o I'll keep an eye on it and see if I can recreate it.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Of course it could be possible that it's not Conboy's fault. But somehow I feel that it's the weakest part of the chain, so I'll investigate it further. Also if you find out anything new, I'm always happy to hear it.

Excellent, thank you :)

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

I just uploaded a new -devel version to the autobuilder. The changes are:
- Updated Midgard-Plugin
- New About Dialog
- Improved bullet list editing

I'm hoping that it is no longer possible to create invalid bullet list structures with this code. Hopefully this will help with the sometimes corrupted notes. The sync code did not change since the last -devel release.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

How are plans going, if at all, to get Conboy to "share via service," e.g. Evernote?

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Well, to share via service, we first need to convert the notes into something the services can understand. Probably XHTML would make sense and it shouldn't be very difficult as the notes are stored in XML that is already quite similar to XHTML already.

Still, someone needs to do it. Volunteers?

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Hi. Great app, but it would be of MUCH more use to me if I was possible to select different system fonts (serif, new times, sans, etc.), and various font sizes (8, 9, 10, 11, 12, etc.) to make the best use of screen real estate for editing simple documents. Any chance of such a feature in conboy?

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Maybe I'm missing something, but how do I easily get a Conboy file onto my PC for editing?

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

I won't add this, sorry. However, you can use the zoom/volume hardware buttons to change the general text size. Not sure that will help you, though.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

The notes are stored in /home/user/.conboy. They are named *.note, but are plain XML, so you can edit them with a simple text editor. Use, for example, scp to copy them to your PC.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

That's actually pretty decent (can't believe i didn't think too try it, lol). Thanks.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Excuse the ignorance, but that appears to require copying via xTerm, using the SCprotocol - just to get a note over to a PC? I was hoping for an "easy" way, like drag and drop or something. No?

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Well, you replied to my message regarding XML/XHTML conversion. Because of this I thought you might be interested in coding and if you're interested in this, xterm is the way to go :)

It looks like I misunderstood you. So what exactly do you want to achieve?

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Ok the last devel version fix one of my corrupted bullet corrupted note.

Thx :)

(And the sync with ubuntu one works very well)

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Use e.g. emelfm2 filemanager to move/copy a Conboy note file to a FAT partition on your NIT.
Connect by USB to PC and use the PC to move the file there.
Both are drag-and-drop operations.

Or, as I do, I have symlinked /home/user/.conboy to a FAT partition.
Advantage: reflashing does not erase notes.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Thanks for that. Much appreciated.

Since we do not have anyway to sync Conboy .note files to a PC or Mac, it would be really great to have a very easy way to export or copy them over, short of having a "share via service" method.

If I symlink the conboy folder, it is still hidden, and still can't be seen by a PC, for example. Isn't that correct? Other Maemo note apps let you export your note to any directory, including an SD card. How hard would it be to export or even copy those Conboy .note files (.XML) to a non-hidden directory? Wouldn't that simplify things a lot, and possibly obviate the need for direct syncing to your desktop?

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Your PC knows nothing about the symlink or whatever you have called it. It just sees whatever folder you have pointed the symlink to.

The disadvantage is that the notes suddenly become unavailable to the N900 when you connect to the PC in mass storage mode, so you would probably want to close Conboy before doing that each time.

The alternative is to just type cp -r ~/.conboy ~/MyDocs/ before plugging in the USB. Then you have a copy visible to your PC.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Yes, that does work perfectly. Thanks. What do you read/edit it with?

I see this as a good work-around, assuming the file is usable on aPC/Mac, but don't you thnk it would be better to export/copy the file as something actually usable?

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Well, i guess "usable" is subjective. One of the selling points of Conboy, the raison d'être so to speak, is that it is compatible with Tomboy, a PC note app. It's probably best used by people who are going to use that capability.

On the other hand, one of the selling points of Zim, a somewhat similar wiki-notepad, is that it stores its notes in plain text. Maybe Zim is a better fit for you?

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

True, "usable" is certainly subjective.

I did try to open the Conboy notes in Tomboy, but nothing happened. Looks like there still needs to be a conversion of some sort?

Assuming Tomboy can read Conboy, (is it the only way to read/edit a Conboy file?) I would be very happy to use both if I could get it to work, and if there were a simple-non-terminal way for Tomboy to fetch a Conboy note off my n900, but it doesn't look like that is supported.

I still think that Conboy could export/copy a note to any directory as an editable file (XML, RTF, etc.) I guess consider that a feature request.

[edit] One can also place a shortcut (e.g., on your PC desktop) to the .conboy folder, and access that folder on the device quicky, even without any further xTerm commands. It seems running that command once unhides the folder permanently?

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

The note needs not to be converted. Conboy and Tomboy share the same file format. What desktop OS are you using? You need to copy the .note files into a directory Tomboy knows about. The directories are listed here: http://live.gnome.org/Tomboy/Directories
Also you should activate the "Note Directory Watcher" add-in in Tomboy. This plugin automatically loads new notes once they have been placed into the right directory.

You can read and write the .note files comfortably using Tomboy, GNote or Conboy. Using one of those application you'll have a note editing user interface. The other way to edit them is by using a text editor. You'll then have to edit the raw XML, which is probably not what you want.

That's what I've said earlier. It's technically not a big problem to write such a converter and if someone sends me the code, I'm very happy to integrate it into Conboy.

Did you try the latest -devel version? It offers synchronization between Conboy <-> Ubuntu One <-> Tomboy. Maybe that's what you're looking for?

Or do you really just want an RTF, HTML representation of your note? What is your use case?

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

And for information i use the win version of tomboy at work synced with ubuntuone, conboy on the n900 synced too with ubuntuone, and on my 3 other linux machines i use also tomboy synced with ubuntuone.

And it s works very well, excepted yesterday for 2 hours as the ubuntuone server was down for hw upgrade, so cannot sync.

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 

Sound cool :) But please remember, it's not stable yet. I still only use it with a test account and not my "production" account/notes. I hope to add support for deleted notes during the weekend. After that some more polishing and it should go into a new release :)

I noticed this too. I was developing at this time and though I broke my code. Turned out it wasn't my fault :) Well, anyways, as a result of this, the error messages in Conboy are a bit better now...