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Khertan 2010-03-12 15:32

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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But please remember, it's not stable yet.
Yes i know, but i use it with production note, but this one are automatically backup before any sync on all devices.

Echohead 2010-03-13 21:12

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I did a search for an "undo" function, but didn't find anything. Is there one? Lets say I highlight a large portion of a note and then accidentally press the wrong key and erase it, is there any way to get it back?

gs1 2010-03-13 21:48

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
As Conny says, the windows version of Tomboy reads Conboy with no conversion needed. Since each note is in its own file, sync seems to be simply a matter of synching the relevant folders. I'm using WinSCP (essential prog for any N900/windows user!) with SSH installed on the N900 to sync to XP over my wireless network.

conny 2010-03-14 00:40

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by Echohead (Post 566329)
I did a search for an "undo" function, but didn't find anything. Is there one? Lets say I highlight a large portion of a note and then accidentally press the wrong key and erase it, is there any way to get it back?

Unfortunately I've not yet implemented undo. I would like to have it myself, though. Still, it's difficult and takes a lot of time, so I'm unsure whether I'll do it or not.

Echohead 2010-03-14 01:20

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Ah, ok, thanks for the response.

etuoyo 2010-03-14 12:42

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
I was typing in a note when my N900 suffered one of its famous random reboots. When I started conboy again the note was not there anymore. Is there a way to recover the note or is it gone for good?

Echohead 2010-03-14 22:48

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
I have a similar question. Conboy crashed while I was working on a doc (in diablo/n810) . It appears to have autosaved the doc and restored it to the way it looked 40-50 min before the crash occurred. Does conboy autosave notes at certain intervals? If so, what are those intervals and can they be altered in any way?

conny 2010-03-15 08:40

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
@etuoyo: You can look inside the folder /home/user/.conboy and see if you can find your note there. However, if Conboy does not pick it up, itīs very unlikely that you find something there.

@Echohead: Notes are automatically saved after 4 seconds of inactivity, when closing Conboy and when switching to another note.

Echohead 2010-03-16 02:59

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
hm, weird. I definitely lost about 40min worth of work and there had to've been a 4-sec interval in there somewhere. Perhaps not, perhaps I'm just that productive lol Thanks.

sorodoros 2010-03-17 00:15

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
What desktop OS are you using?
Win7

You need to copy the .note files into a directory Tomboy knows about. The directories are listed here: http://live.gnome.org/Tomboy/Directories
Also you should activate the "Note Directory Watcher" add-in in Tomboy. This plugin automatically loads new notes once they have been placed into the right directory.


Tomboy has a sync feature that lets you sync with any folder. I don't see "Note Directory Watcher" anywhere.

You can read and write the .note files comfortably using Tomboy, GNote or Conboy. Using one of those application you'll have a note editing user interface. The other way to edit them is by using a text editor. You'll then have to edit the raw XML, which is probably not what you want.

Haven't tried GNote yet. Prefer not to have to edit raw XML.

Did you try the latest -devel version? It offers synchronization between Conboy <-> Ubuntu One <-> Tomboy. Maybe that's what you're looking for?

Still prefer something more direct, i.e., rather not install Ubuntu just for this.

Or do you really just want an RTF, HTML representation of your note? What is your use case?

RTF would be ideal. Any chance...?

conny 2010-03-17 08:30

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by Echohead (Post 568709)
hm, weird. I definitely lost about 40min worth of work and there had to've been a 4-sec interval in there somewhere. Perhaps not, perhaps I'm just that productive lol Thanks.

It might be, that you've been hit by a bug where notes are corrupted upon save. I still didn't find a way to reproduce this bug, but the latest -devel version has some code to detect this corruption. More on that in a new post shortly.

Anyways, I'm really sorry you're having this kind of trouble - I'm working on it...

conny 2010-03-17 08:36

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Tomboy has a sync feature that lets you sync with any folder. I don't see "Note Directory Watcher" anywhere.
Strange, maybe the plugin is not supported on Windows.

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Haven't tried GNote yet. Prefer not to have to edit raw XML.
GNote is AFAIK not available on Windows.

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Still prefer something more direct, i.e., rather not install Ubuntu just for this.
You don't have to install anything. Ubuntu One is a web service. http://one.ubuntu.com

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RTF would be ideal. Any chance...?
If anything, I guess XHTML will be first. Also please be aware that this would probably be export only.

conny 2010-03-17 08:45

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Extras-Devel now contains version 0.6.3.6. This version is mainly meant for debugging the rarely/random note corruption.
  • Notes are saved every 4 seconds now. Only of course if something has changed.
  • If the XML is corrupted no save will occur. Instead the XML is generated again. After that a banner is shown telling you whether or not the corruption still exists.

Please give it a try and report the messages you get here. The banner reads "Second save successful" if recreating the XML did help. It will read "Second save NOT successful" if the generated XML is still invalid.

If the note is corrupted, it is not saved. Therefore it should be save to quit Conboy and try again. The saved note should never be older then 4 seconds.

It would be great if you all can help testing, because this error does not occur often enough here to get usable data. As always: Please do a backup of your notes first.

pelago 2010-03-17 09:47

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Originally Posted by conny (Post 570089)
You don't have to install anything. Ubuntu One is a web service. http://one.ubuntu.com

But Ubuntu One doesn't work on Windows, does it?

conny 2010-03-17 11:27

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by pelago (Post 570135)
But Ubuntu One doesn't work on Windows, does it?

Well, it depends, what "work" means ;) You can, of course, use the web interface using windows. And you can sync Windows-Tomboy with Ubuntu One. AFAIK you donīt have a native file-sync solution between Windows and U1. Not sure what else U1 offers, never really looked at anything besides note sync.

sorodoros 2010-03-17 21:19

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Originally Posted by conny;570089[SIZE="2"
Strange, maybe the plugin is not supported on Windows.... I guess XHTML will be first. Also please be aware that this would probably be export only.

XHTML would be a great start, but hopefully RTF will happen, too.

I did manage to succeed with Conboy<>one.ubuntu<>Tomboy (Windows 7) sync, so for anyone interested it does work. Conboy syncs perfectly with one.ubuntu, with no issues I can see, but Tomboy has at least one serious bullet list formatting issue (on Win 7, it seems) with one.ubuntu sync. In short, it deformats them. Other text seems okay.

Also, It is not possible to print a Tomboy note in Windows 7. The print dialog is missing the add printer button, and selecting a printer manually does not work at all. :rolleyes:

Thanks again for all your suggestions. :)


[edit] There is recent beta of Tomboy (1.1.4), which corrects the issues I mentioned above. :)

mbs 2010-03-20 00:21

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Can someone help me with: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...067#post574067

I'm VERY stuck at this! :(

sorodoros 2010-03-21 20:07

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[text feature request]

Current versions of Conboy do not have underline as a text format option; Tomboy does, however. When syncing between the two (one.ubuntu), Tomboy underlined text is transferred, but it is not possible to format underlined text in Conboy.

It seems this is something that no one has requested before; I didn't see any mention of it in this thread. (I didn't notice it missing until I downloaded Tomboy.)

[edit] ... and it would be great if Conboy could also "insert time stamp," as in Tomboy.

conny 2010-03-22 09:33

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by sorodoros (Post 576227)
[text feature request]

Current versions of Conboy do not have underline as a text format option; Tomboy does, however. When syncing between the two (one.ubuntu), Tomboy underlined text is transferred, but it is not possible to format underlined text in Conboy.

It seems this is something that no one has requested before; I didn't see any mention of it in this thread. (I didn't notice it missing until I downloaded Tomboy.)

Tomboy just recently added the "underline text" plug-in to the default installation. I've created a feature request for Conboy here: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9656

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[edit] ... and it would be great if Conboy could also "insert time stamp," as in Tomboy.
Hmm, yea, certainly would be nice. The problem is that besides the timestamp plug-in there are another 20 (or more) plug-ins for Tomboy. It won't be feasible to support them all. So I'll mostly concentrate on the core. Anyways, please feel free to also add it as a feature request to bugzilla. Maybe one day I'm completely bored and will be happy to implement this feature ;)

Seriously, please add it. It's good to collect requirements and if people are voting for it, I can see that there is high demand for it. Also it might be that someone else wants to implement it.

sorodoros 2010-03-22 16:42

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Good idea.

It's true there are a quite a few plug-ins, but only one of them relates specifically to basic text formatting - underline, and so it jumps out as a "conspicuous" absense in Conboy. The time stamp request is a convenience, but seems to make good sense for note taking. Just my $.02. :)

Shady 91' 2010-04-04 16:48

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
I think this apps needs some improvements.

1- Introducing of a larger scroll bar
2- introducing of category and so a screen to manage it
3- introducing a password to protect the more important note (or in alternative a password to access at the app) like Safenote on Symbian
4 A limitation characters for the title (you try to paste a note from another apps after you have deleted the text in the new Note)


Can you improve it? PLS, is verey very good

ofels 2010-04-05 08:35

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by Shady 91' (Post 595104)
2- introducing of category and so a screen to manage it

Primarily I'd be happy to have notebook support first to group notes like in Tomboy. That would be a real benefit.

conny 2010-04-07 08:09

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by Shady 91' (Post 595104)
1- Introducing of a larger scroll bar

Not sure what you mean. There are no scroll bars in Fremantle and on Diablo you can choose the size of the scroll bar using the settings.

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2- introducing of category and so a screen to manage it
Please vote for this bug: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9623

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3- introducing a password to protect the more important note (or in alternative a password to access at the app) like Safenote on Symbian
Please file an enhancement request in bugzilla. If possible try to find some sources whether or not this exists for Tomboy.

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4 A limitation characters for the title (you try to paste a note from another apps after you have deleted the text in the new Note)
I like this idea. Please also file an enhancement request. This helps me to remember it.

Shady 91' 2010-04-07 16:09

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do not let me write on bugzilla.

I'm an italian boy and i don't speak well this language (but i understand very well).


for the larger bar, i have seen a useful in quicknote.

conny 2010-04-07 16:21

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You need to create a separate login to bugzilla. Don't worry about your writing, if I understand you here, I'll understand you on bugzilla as well.

Can you post a screenshot of this large scrollbar? Personally I don't think scrollbars are nice on such a small display. They only take up space. And is panning in Quicknote still possible or is it scrolling only then?

Shady 91' 2010-04-07 16:32

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https://bugs.maemo.org/post_bug.cgi

I was right?

Dollyknot 2010-04-07 17:22

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
I was keeping a sort of diary with the notes app. but have decided to give conboy a try, could not figure out how to transfer the diary from the notes app to the conboy app in the n900, so I transferred the diary file to my PC and did it with tomboy and transferred it back to the n900.

It worked fine but it would be nicer if each new entry made into conboy was automatically date stamped, instead of being sequentially numbered.

All help gratefully received.

Shady 91' 2010-04-08 13:55

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http://yfrog.com/7escreenshot2010040815490p

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3...0040815490.png

Khertan 2010-04-08 14:03

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I ll not call that usefull ... large scrollbar is a waste of space on Fremantle.

Shady 91' 2010-04-08 14:12

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i would see you with a text of miles phrases

jukey 2010-04-09 09:05

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by Shady 91' (Post 601020)
i would see you with a text of miles phrases

Scolling a large amount of text is something what should be solved in the GUI-framework. In fremantle you normally can accelerate the scroll speed if you scroll kinetic with your finger very fast a few times successively. I noticed it in my contact list which is very long. Maybe this works here too?

conny 2010-04-11 11:10

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Originally Posted by Shady 91' (Post 599598)

Hmm, well... :) You filed the bug about the categories (aka notebooks) and that bug already exists, so I've marked it as duplicate. Anyways, you are now subscribed to this bug and you'll receive updates, once I start working on it.

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9623

conny 2010-04-11 11:15

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by Shady 91' (Post 601020)
i would see you with a text of miles phrases

Thanks for the screenshot, but I also think this wastes too much screen space. I'd rather split really long notes into several parts and link them together.

elris 2010-04-20 14:46

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hi, I would like to sync Tomboy and Conboy Notes with Grsync. I'm trying now connecting n900 to my Ubuntu machine in USB storage mode. I successfully locataed Tomboy and Conboy folders. Unfortunately, I can't browse to Conboy folder from my pc. I mean, when I click on N900 I'm in MyDocs directory. How can I go to Conboy folder?

Thanks a lot!

salinmooch 2010-04-21 21:49

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Originally Posted by elris (Post 619471)
hi, I would like to sync Tomboy and Conboy Notes with Grsync. I'm trying now connecting n900 to my Ubuntu machine in USB storage mode. I successfully locataed Tomboy and Conboy folders. Unfortunately, I can't browse to Conboy folder from my pc. I mean, when I click on N900 I'm in MyDocs directory. How can I go to Conboy folder?

Thanks a lot!

If I understand you correctly you found the conboy folder on your n900 but when you access your n900 via USB with your ubuntu rig you cannot find the folder? On the n8x0 conboy notes are kept in /home/user/.conboy I imagine the n900 is similar in setup. I have not used usb storage mode in a long time so I'm not sure if it mounts /home/user/MyDocs/ as root instead of /. If so that would make it hard to get to the conboy notes folder.

What I did before using conboy's excellent Ubuntu one sync is rsync over a ssh to sync up my tomboy and conboy directories. You can install the openssh server on your n900 and sync that way over the network (much more convenient than usb storage mode IMO).

However, since you are using ubuntu I suggest you give the built in sync in conboy to sync your ubuntu box and n900 notes via ubuntu one. If you need setup help for this let me know.

jukey 2010-04-29 08:49

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
Hi conny,

I saw the new version:
http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...onboy/0.6.3.8/
in extras-devel. Do you have a changelog or can tell me what is new in this version? :)

Thank you very much,
Uwe

conny 2010-04-29 10:03

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by jukey (Post 632777)
Hi conny,

I saw the new version:
http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...onboy/0.6.3.8/
in extras-devel. Do you have a changelog or can tell me what is new in this version? :)

Thank you very much,
Uwe

I've rewritten a lot of code regarding bullet list editing to minimize the chance of corrupted notes (hopefully). You should notice that, when selecting and deleting or overwriting parts of bullet-text and/or normal text. Or like pressing Backspace directly before or after a bullet etc...

Nothing very exiting, but things that have been on my list for just too long :)

sorodoros 2010-04-29 15:54

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Speaking of corrupted files...

I frequently sync with one.ubuntu.com/Tomboy.

Yesterday, prior to the new Conboy update, I sync'd and got the message indicating that the Conboy version of a specific note was older than the one on the server (one.ubuntu), but no remedy was offered as is with Tomboy, wherein one can rename the local note so there is no conflict.

Long story short: I ended up with two notes, the original and a new version. Problem is that this new version on Conboy was corrrectly formatted, except all text was blue and any attempty to edit any text crashed it when tapping into the text.

Nothing like this ever hapened before. I realize that Conboy sync is still alpha and weird stuff is posible. I fixed the note through Tomboy and re-syncing, but... any thoughts?

dvergin 2010-04-30 13:46

Re: Conboy - Note Taking Application (Tomboy clone)
 
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Originally Posted by salinmooch (Post 621628)
...I suggest you give the built in sync in conboy to sync your ubuntu box and n900 notes via ubuntu one. If you need setup help for this let me know.

I would like help with this. If the details are already in this or the other thread, I've missed thim.

etuoyo 2010-05-05 22:33

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[QUOTE=conny;567495]@etuoyo: You can look inside the folder /home/user/.conboy and see if you can find your note there. However, if Conboy does not pick it up, itīs very unlikely that you find something there.

Hi I have looked in the Conboy folder and found my note that disappeared when I had a random restart. However, I don't know how to get it back into Conboy. Any ideas? I have copied it to My Docs and tried opening with Conboy but that doesn't work. When I tap the file and select open with Conboy it just opens the most recent file. I have opened with Notes and that works so I guess I can get rid of all the coding, etc and do copy and paste into a new Conboy note but that is a rather long solution.


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