Re: Proposal: Use Talk as framework for comments in Brainstorm, Downloads and News
 

If JS is turned off, they won't see much of anything right now in maemo.org and tmo. ;)

No need for search engines to crawl the comments that are displayed via ajax as the actual text will get crawled direct from tmo anyway.

Maybe a fixed height with a vertical scrollbar?

How about allowing anonymous replies? This will not be globally throughout tmo, but just for forums that are linked to maemo.org articles and apps.

On the short-lived itT Software Section, what I dis was, everytime a developer changes the app's version, a new discussion thread gets created, displaying the short description of the app, as well as text of changes made on the current version.

Re: Proposal: Use Talk as framework for comments in Brainstorm, Downloads and News
 

We had a meeting related to this and other stuff with Tero today, and the plan is to open up the super-secret URL this week so we can get comments from a wider audience.

Dave is working on the plan about the workflow, and hopefully that will be published soon, so we can discuss not only the software side of Brainstorm, but the human and procedure side of it too.

As for using the Talk infrastructure for handling all maemo.org discussions (I'd take this to Downloads and News as well once we're at it)...

Definitely a good idea. Here we have a much more active discussion community than on the main site. And this way members would have only a single location to monitor for new comments and discussion.

However, as such integration requires both the SSO to be in place, and some other tasks, I'd propose first launching Brainstorm with in-site comments and later switching all commenting to use Talk.

Otherwise the Brainstorm launch will be overloaded with Talk-related issues, stealing focus from the actual point of idea brainstorming.

Re: Proposal: Use Talk as framework for comments in Brainstorm, Downloads and News
 

I'm not really eager about making comments just a JS widget... tools like Disqus are IMO quite clunky, as anyway then the comments interaction is "outside the site itself" which will not feel very natural or integrated.

What I'd do instead is make maemo.org synchronize the comments between a thread in Midgard database and the Talk database. This way users can comment and read via both interfaces.

See our current data model, it'd be easy to add a "Talk thread ID" for each item. Now we track commenting threads based on object GUID that is being commented as the comments widget in Midgard can be attached to any content type.

Re: Proposal: Use Talk as framework for comments in Brainstorm, Downloads and News
 

I agree that Disqus is clunky. It can be done better though. You can see better integration on say YouTube video comments (comments refresh when changing pages) and CNN videos (list of videos below refreshes based on category you pick).

This can be done. A potential problem that I see here is the bi-directional synchronization. A version upgrade on either Midgrad or vBulletin can easily create potential problems. I am for bridging systems but the lesser functionality on the bridge component, the better.

Going back to quim's main post, what is stopping us on dropping the current Midgrad comment system and moving all the discussion (news, downloads, brainstorm) in Talk?

Re: Proposal: Use Talk as framework for comments in Brainstorm, Downloads and News
 

Nothing in particular, it just needs to be planned and implemented properly. And even better if SSO is in place by then.