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branitar 2009-05-14 06:47

Qt Declarative UI (new way to make nice UIs)
 
Just found this: http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Graphics/Kinetic/DeclarativeUI
Have a look at the videos.
With Nokia now owning Qt Software this might become the way how UIs are made in future Nokia gadgets.

ragnar 2009-05-14 07:15

Re: Qt Declarative UI (new way to make nice UIs)
 
Looking at the video, I guess we now know why lcuk had to sacrifice his finger. :rolleyes:

funpig 2009-05-14 08:02

Re: Qt Declarative UI (new way to make nice UIs)
 
i think the Nokia S60 UI should replace with Qt UI. that's a good things! ;)

fms 2009-05-14 08:36

Re: Qt Declarative UI (new way to make nice UIs)
 
Ah, yet another UI declaration language! With absolute coordinate values! And JavaScript! How cute! How innovative! I am sure, absolutely sure, this has never been done before! It will revolutionize the ...mmm... what will it revolutionize?... Ok, doesn't matter...

branitar 2009-05-14 11:11

Re: Qt Declarative UI (new way to make nice UIs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 287370)
Ah, yet another UI declaration language! With absolute coordinate values! And JavaScript! How cute! How innovative! I am sure, absolutely sure, this has never been done before! It will revolutionize the ...mmm... what will it revolutionize?... Ok, doesn't matter...

My post was not about declarative UIs being a new concept, but that in this case it is applied to a well known UI framwork made by Qt Software which in turn is owned by Nokia who made the devices that this forum is about . And just because you don't see the value of this information doesn't mean that others don't see it either....

fms 2009-05-14 11:33

Re: Qt Declarative UI (new way to make nice UIs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by branitar (Post 287395)
applied to a well known UI framwork made by Qt Software which in turn is owned by Nokia who made the devices that this forum is about .

Nokia had declarative UI for years with Symbian/S60. The fact that QT folks have discovered this concept just now is somewhat humorous :)

vvaz 2009-05-14 11:53

Re: Qt Declarative UI (new way to make nice UIs)
 
Yes. And compare prevailing opinions about programming for Symbian and Qt.

YoDude 2009-05-14 20:11

Re: Qt Declarative UI (new way to make nice UIs)
 
From what I've seen using this...



and this...





... on my N800 i must say I'm impressed with the UI's on these first Qt applications specifically designed to run on Maemo devices.

They are in BETA and can be found in the extras-devel repository.

A lot of space is required during installation but you are also installing Qt 4.5.
They take a while to load and text entry with @web is buggy but, the UI's are rock solid and dang impressive, IMHO. :)

I'm wondering when Canola will jump on board...

(Click on the pics to be taken to the applications websites.)

fms 2009-05-15 05:00

Re: Qt Declarative UI (new way to make nice UIs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 287600)
I'm impressed with the UI's on these first Qt applications specifically designed to run on Maemo devices.

It has less to do with the UI toolkit used than with the mastery of application programmers. Same things can be done with GTK+ or a bunch of other toolkits, as long as the author knows what he is doing.

branitar 2009-05-15 07:34

Re: Qt Declarative UI (new way to make nice UIs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 287714)
It has less to do with the UI toolkit used than with the mastery of application programmers. Same things can be done with GTK+ or a bunch of other toolkits, as long as the author knows what he is doing.

Yeah, I also can paint the moon red to get some moody light for my next midnight photo session instead of just using a coloured spotlight. Of course I can modify the Look'n'Feel of other toolkits, too, but why bother with writing tons of additional code if I can just use the stuff that already comes with the toolkit AND is easy to use without tons of additional code?
What's your problem with Qt? Are they not "elite" enough for you tastes? Is your problem that they were not the first ones? Or do you fear that there are actually people that dont like GTK+ as much as you obviously do and might even use it to write good and usuable applications for the NITs?
You didn't offer ANY valid technical argument yet that supports your negative opinion. So if you don't have to add anything constructive to the discussion, why don't you just keep your opinion to yourself, so we can keep up a positive and constructive discussion here in this threat?


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