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I'm pleased with the smaller screen, actually. As long as the resolution is maintained I say make it as small as you can! I've got really good eyesight though (and a steady hand) so I can see why others might not be as keen.

The keyboard though? Downgrading from the n810's 4-row keyboard is something I'm dubious about (not to mention dpad--). Hopefully once we see it for real there will be some detail that makes it usable.

I like the RAM and 32GB of internal flash too. I've been fighting with microSD cards lately (every miniSD adapter I have is flakey, I think).

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That's the thing. NONE of us are getting any younger.

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about screen size and resolution:

is there any reason why they'd stick with 800x480 on such a small screen? it already was luxury on the current tablets, but seriously: which kind of application would benefit from such a high dpi value? I don't see the point of it any longer. very confusing.

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Eh. I've got another good 5 years in me yet :D

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All indications I've seen point to Nokia Maps (which is distinct from the Wayfinder "Map" on current devices) being bundled.

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Why compromise on the screensize? Will be holding onto my N800 a little while longer!

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3.5" screen size will negatively affect vehicle GPS usage. Dealbreaker.

IMO this was a bonehead move-- unless one of the other devices I didn't get to see comes out around the same time with a 4" screen...

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Hm... did you just confirm you know of another maemo device? ;)

I sure hope so. I won't buy this... thing.

Edit: and right now I'd just like to thank any higher power up there for Mer and Tear.

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Those specs are dead-on... fortunately in some areas, unfortunately in others.

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I know of a *possible* additional device. There were hints. But whatever it is/was/may be, it was kept much, much better hidden from the Nokia rank and file than Rover (RX-51) was. My queries went nowhere.

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3.5" is the size of the 480x320 iPhone and iPod touch screens. I own an iPod touch 2G, and believe me, I can think of plenty of benefits of a Nokia Maemo 800x480 OMAP3 iPod touch clone (no keyboard). For me, smaller and lighter is better; like Benson said, I can always move it closer to me face. My n810 and my n800 are tanks compared to my iPod. So, the screen size is actually something I like, it's the hardware (or lack thereof) surrounding it that I would have a problem with.

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Aha! Some (unofficial) confirmation at last that Rover and RX-51 (the Lead device) are one and the same...

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I'm just highly doubtful I could use Rover as my auto's GPS device, the way I do with my N810-- the latter being just barely acceptable visibility-wise.

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No, he said "one of the other devices", with an S. Thus, he is confirming more than one other Maemo device.

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I'm no longer bound to secrecy. You can thank Nokia for making me jobless. :rolleyes:

However, I'll still only go so far. The possibility of going back to Nokia is slim-to-none (more device business layoffs coming) but I still need to network in that space...

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Please read more carefully. I didn't confirm that. :p

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No, you didn't confirm that. ;)

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OK, so we gather now that Nokia's announcement of Maemo 5 left out the fact that the lead device would be a phone as well. I think some indications in SDK's pointed to that. What remains to be seen now is what the RX-71 is all about.

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Ding! And what you say matches with my thought that the N97 probably was originally a Maemo device. Makes me wonder if that device that Eldar was talking about earlier this year with the morphing keyboard was a higher end Maemo 5 device. uhmmmm...

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IIRC RX-71 may well be that top-secret device. Details were locked down tighter than Nokia's support for Ovi. :D

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Thanks for giving us, unworthy, a bit of hope ;)

Only a very small bit. In corporation of Nokia size there are many study devices which will never see light of day from corporate dungeons.

Me? Probably waiting for Harmattan, Q4 2010...

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please be careful. i'd like for you to stick around here, even with your 'quiet time' is technically over.

thanks for the puzzle pieces. i've got a much clearer idea now.

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My summary of this "leak":

• A repeat of cool stuff we learned about 8 months ago at the Summit, mixed with a few extra cool things we learned 6 months ago from the Alpha SDK.
• Some limp extra specifications and release dates that don't sound exciting at all.

Things that sit wrongly with me:

• The documents refer to the "flagship" device; we've always heard it called the "lead" device by Nokians.
• No mention of RX-anything.
• There just isn't anything new in here. All the "new" stuff is, as others have pointed out, more like the N97 than the N810.
• Voice? While nobody came out and denied voice for Fremantle, I got the impression that voice was being saved for Harmattan.
• "Rover"?! :confused:
• No mention of stuff we know would be in there, like the GPS and the accelerometer. Those were added in later, as an oops! "update". Suspicious!
• The specs just seem so boring and "phone-like" that it doesn't feel like the kind of thing the Maemo people would release for us.

I was just commenting on the N800 I was holding in my hand at that moment, the one that I was using to type the comment. But you're right; I should have used "up to" specs, like in the "leak".

Yeah. Really lovely for Canada. :(

Amen, brother.

UPDATE: Ok, ok, so "Rover" is the real name, and Texrat has confirmed the specs. Sigh. Shrug.

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I think I'm careful enough, thanks. Nokia can't do anything to me-- in a couple of months I'll be filing for bankruptcy. Can't sue a guy for what he no longer has.

Reggie is a different story though... :D

EDIT: I said that in haste, sorry.

I don't intend to be a cause of concern for Nokia. There's no chance of being hired back due to the business changes but I'm not going to use that as justification for being a troublemaker. I apologize to the community and to Nokia employees for being flippant.

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Actually nokia should be thankful of texrat. Its only because of him(rx-71) that we are still in this forum.

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Well, there were, I believe, quite a number of requests to make it smaller. It's smaller now.

Sure, but I'm only aging at about 365.25 days a year -- when my eyesight appreciably deteriorates (several device-lives down the road), then I'll worry about large-print handhelds. Or maybe I'll have my eyes fixed with the advanced technology we'll have then. ;)

To avoid breaking a bazillion apps? To display poorly-designed web pages fairly correctly? To display text without annoying chiclet-pixels? Actually, what kind of application is hurt by higher DPI? Resolution-independence makes apps DPI-neutral, and all common resolution-dependent problems induce breakage on reduced pixel count, but just display "too small" on a smaller screen with the same pixel count.

Besides, 800x480/3.5" is not particularly high density for a top-end mobile. You're just accustomed to the lameness that is the mobile industry outside Japan. They're all over WVGA (800x480 and wider) on 3" screens, and a few even smaller.

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So there you have it... How many people believe this... and how many not... :rolleyes:

I can certainly understand people reaction to the smaller physical size, including screen. I had similar reaction when I first saw the specs... :rolleyes:

Since then I have had time to digest the idea, and lately I do like the idea of new tablet being smaller. Since it also appear has cellular voice capability, I can think this being my "one and only" easily pocketable device I carry with me everywhere. The current N810 is just a bit too big to be carried in jeans pocket... Personally I welcome the new tablet.

It is not too difficult to see this being marketed by T-Mobile (USA) as an competitor to iPhone. I can only hope the tablet is not locked for T-Mobile... but in order to compete with iPhone sales terms (reduced purchase price) I can not see way around this. I'm sure there will be network unlocked versions that you can buy directly from Nokia or other Nokia authorized resellers.

On the other hand, now there iwill be new market for a tablet with a bigger screen... Maybe the RX-71?

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Come on, do you think you could afford one of these on a Canadian carrier?

Stateside, T-mobile seems to be the least evil, by a good margin, of the national carriers. From what I've heard of Canada, I'm not sure there is such a thing as "least evil".

But I think I heard that Rogers has some AWS spectrum, too, so there should be some hope...

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I guess Nokia's future is back to being just phones...

Bummer.

NOK closed @ 14.66 on Friday after climbing slowly out of its hole at the beginning of March (below 9). Lets see how she looks this time next week. :)

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This is by no means remotely official (I didn't know about the TMO plans) but consider that Nokia has had a great relationship with Rogers, so anything is possible...

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quote benson; Or, as Tex suggested, maybe an intentional leak. To keep everyone from blowing their 2009 handheld-device budget on a Pre, Android, or next model iPhone.

I have blown my N95 for HTC Touch hd 3.8in, i was about to blow my N810 for N900 but i will hold tight to it.
Seriously if this is a phone then it means it will have a good Pim suite and capable of handling office suite since all nokia phones do have both capabilities. the screen size compromise, if there is a better way to handle font sizes in the control panel then it will be bearable other than that this device is targeted for a specific audience somewhere and not tablet-talk forum users.

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From my experience of both myopic and presbyopic fellow, with just a bit of astigmatism, I can assure that the external display of an e90 is large enough for gps turn-by-turn guidance (nokia maps).
But office tasks won't be easy for people in the fourties and older.

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I can think of one reason - to keep it visually consistent with other Maemo devices. Applications designed for higher res (and all Maemo apps are designed for 800x480) would look bad on a lower res screen.

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I very much prefer a tablet with a large display, and probably won't buy this (for myself). But once the decision was made to put GSM into it to compete with the Pre, iphone redux, etc., I understand that a 3.5" display makes a lot of sense from a commercial perspective. The big news to us in the US of course is the AWS, T-Mo customers have been waiting for a high end Nokia for awhile now.

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Hey mara thanks for the info. But why call rx-51 a tablet.... it clearly is not one.

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At 47 my eyesight is worsening by the day. I can't afford new glasses ($280 for the last ones thanks to my issues) so I make do. But I really could not navigate in the car with anything less than the N810's size. Not possible. And I know that many others complained as well.

But I have no qualms whatsoever with this device IF it will have a larger sibling. Again, my beef is with the device management thus far. It blows my mind... but then, when I worked in the factory, I should have gotten used to it...

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but that's the point and my crisis now:

it's still way too large (and above all: too heavy) for a phone. (at least for me.)

a phone needs to be less than 120g. I have a 6110 Navigator now (125g) and it's not what I expect a phone to be in terms of size and weight. i tried the xperia X1 - never ever. too heavy, too big.

on the other hand, for pleasant surfing, chatting, reading and (of course) watching videos, i need a bigger device with a nice, large screen. it can be heavy because i don't always carry it in my pockets. in fact, i don't carry it in any pocket at all, i have it in a bag if i take it outside.

so these are my requirements. now i get a device that fails on both. too small a screen for the "tablet use", to expensive, big and heavy for a phone.
what should i do with such a thing? why would i have one?

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I still hold a significant amount of stock, which leaks into my frustration!

But I have made a lot of money on Nokia stock every time it got down to this level, and hold out hope history will repeat. It depends more on this crushing, job-killing economy than on Nokia per se...

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The cold trees are bare
Just got my Maemo smartphone
My tears on the screen

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I think most of us can agree that The General doesn't like to speculate too far from the Nokia tree. And let's say that for a non-Nokia employee that he's as likely as any to catch wind of something. Now, take his quote below and add it to what ex-Nokian Texrat has alluded to. I would guess there's another 2009 Nokia device that might be more to this community's liking.