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Good luck making a phone call with it out of the box. :eek:

Calling a device that uses a cellular modem capability to interact via IP a phone would be like calling an ATM, a gasoline pump, or a remote cash register that verifies c/c info a phone...:p

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I would not recommend it for the mobile but as an alternative to iTunes in terms of organicing und synching music...

Regards,
Glasswalker

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I was talking in terms of desktop connectivity for the phone/tablet. I wouldn't want it on the phone.

As it stands, Nokia doesn't have desktop clients/applications to go along with this product. And they don't have compelling reasons for the average Joe Sixpack to use their upcoming phone.

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Not exactly. This device has an audio subsystem and has a user interface with a screen and buttons, has a GSM voice capable radio, runs on batteries (=autonomous) and is pocketable. That's a hardware description of a fully fledged mobile phone right there. All your examples lack one of those components :) Leaving out voice capability of such a unit makes the Rover a tablet with a massive identity crisis :D

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Ya mean something like this?



:eek:

:D

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How can 60% of the people be far-sighted? Wouldn't the majority of people have normal vision? If 60% of people were far-sighted, it wouldn't be called far-sighted, but normal!

This is like the "All the children in Lake Woebegon are above average" statement.

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Err... no :) You're far-sighted if you cannot focus on objects close to your eyes. It's not a relation to an 'average' dioptry (unlike height, which defines tall and short as a relation to an average height).

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You're probably right, but...

Isn't "cannot focus on objects close to your eyes" a relative statement? Can you focus on objects one angstrom from your eyes?

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That's a valid sentiment, however we can define reasonable expectations in this case, set based on measurements like arm length. In this case, being able to focus on items held in the hand might be the benchmark. Being able to focus on items a millimetre or less from your eye would not be useful since humans (on average :p) do not have the motor skills required to consistently place and hold such an item.

Just like a person can be both average weight (in a group of other people) and overweight (from a human health point of view).

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I have zero interest nurturing rumours on future Nokia devices but it can't hurt to help translating to English what some bloke is clearly saying in Spanish in the beginning of a video.

Engadget was already hot on this video so I thought it would be useful to spend 2 Sunday afternoon minutes posting the basic clarification, not even as Nokia employee but just as a Spanish speaker. Much better than finding 200 totally off-the-road posts on Monday morning. :)

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Because
1) the changes in the form factor is hard to see the rationale behind unless it is compared to full up voice phones, and
2) Nokia needs such a phone, the N97 is falling behind the Xperia, Touch Pro2, and other top model smartphones, and
3) I didn't know about any five step plan for Maemo.

Nokia needs to do something, but I fear they're gonna fall yet another year behind because the Maemo phone may not be ready yet. We've just been discussing the need for such a phone, and how that would fit with what we've seen. If the render and the photo we've seen in this thread are accurate, and this is going to be "just" the successor to the N810...

...then not only the shrunken screen but even more the three row keyboard is hard to explain.

If this is just a successor to the N810 with an added SIM card slot, then I think many N810 (and N800) owners will consider their current model better featured.

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a) an N810 with a GSM radio and SIM card, with or without GSM voice, would have been great ... 12-18 months ago.
Today, it needs to be faster, have more RAM, have more built-in storage, and, for me, definitely needs to have GSM voice and SMS capability.

b) an HTC Touch Pro 2 with Maemo ... *drool*

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Me too the smaller screen of the N900 is a degradation.
Three row keyboard as well, but that has the N810 as well. That's why I created a four row (numbers on top row) keyboard with one keystroke of 'www.' and '.com') keyboard definition for the onscreen keyboard.
Anyway, more RAM and a faster processor (and more internal storage RAM (> 1G instead of 256 MB)) would be desirable, but yet the N810 has more memory than the N97 as the latter has no virtual memory.

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Actually, no. That's not a precise definition, and it only describes the kind of 'farsightedness' you experience when you get older (called presbyopia). You're farsighted (as in 'born far-sighted', called hyperopia) when your lens, in its flattest position, isn't focusing on the horizon (or the moon, which is the same as far as your eyes are concerned) but _beyond_ the horizon. In other words, to see the horizon sharp you would have to work your eye a bit instead of simply relaxing. It's usually caused by a shorter-than-normal eyeball, but sometimes other parts of the eye.

Correct.

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My N810 has most definitively four rows, and one of the missing buttons in the leaked "photo" is the Fn button.

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All this talk of Myopia and eye focussing issues makes me wonder are you guys Geeks or Vision(ary) Geeks with focus ?

Damn, thats a hell of a lot of eye related info and knowledge that I gained in this thread - in fact more than I know in absolute of the N900 itself.

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About Amarok - it has infrastructure for this kind of things. One of web services (Magnatune?) even hired Amarok developer to work on it.

If Nokia really would like to do this it should be matter of few months of work to make from Amarok great interface to its shop.

But someone needs to act on it. And judging how they practically gave up on e-book market without even trying...

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Nokia has filed (link in finnish) for a new trademark "CSERIES". Could the "N900" be the first device in CSeries, maybe C900?

Maybe somebody could check if Nokia has filed CSERIES trademark in other countries too?

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All I know is that Juha-Pekka Sipponen, Director of Product Management - Ultimate Nseries Devices, will be speaking at the Summit.

Cseries may be for the netbooks.

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What could C stand for?

Communication? Connectivity?

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Chinook ....?

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Computer. Clamshell.

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Chump? :p

Tim

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Commodore?

(Cookie?)

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Commercial. See cseries.com. ;)

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Whoa. :D

Tim

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There's no way that's light enough to suit benny. And where's the D-pad?

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It's still pretty mobile, and it's got a joystick instead of a D-pad.

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Might be mobile, bit it's definitely not pocketable.

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She said: Is that a rocket in your pocket young man?

He said: Are you refering to my twin jet engines...

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Crippled maybe? Radio lock-in to a cell phone vendor will do that.

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Console, cell phone, communism :cool:

In Sharp Zaurus it meant Clamshell (SL-C*; e.g. SL-C1000).

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C is for Confused.

Nokia's moves make less sense per day.

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Why less sense. Maybe they want to differentiate something from (current) N-Series. We don't know yet... I think we're far more confused than Nokia because partly we hear about rumours, speculation, and such and then add too much value to it.

Then it is also a keyboard, a radio, a display :) or if it has UMTS, HSPA it is a 'modem'.

IMO the device is what you use it for; which can be multiple things. It can be partly a phone, partly a media player, partly an e-mail client. The very same is true for a so-called smartphone. Or even S40 phones.

A phone is this thing from the previous centry:

http://www.geekologie.com/2007/08/29...cell-phone.jpg

(Without the letters :).)

IOW, its very relative, and with VoIP getting more important 'phone' becomes 'just one of those things you can do via the Internet'; in fact over WiFi, LTE, WiMAX that'd be only TCP/IP protocol between $client and $gateway.

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Its straight forward.

The e series communicators and the n series tablets are being drafted into a single "C" series. C for Communicators.

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C is for cills the competition...

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Yes, but the unfortunate circumstances are that it's not YOU, the user who decides what you will use it for, but rather you'll have to live with the limitations the vendor left you with (regardless of what the actual hardware is capable of).

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...and the cost of many things, (radios for example), that you may not want to use but will jack the price up from 400 to 800.

Besides that, if I lose my N800 I'll cry more for the loss of data than the device, which is easily replaced. Losing an $800 item would have my eyes crossed.

Joe.

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It is if your pockets are deep enough to buy one.

Tim

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Is this the N910 ?

Oh maybe not !