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spock 2009-08-08 05:59

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Originally Posted by ming387 (Post 309772)
Hoping they release AT&T 3G band version.

Yes please, because that is also the Rogers 3G band (Canada).

tso 2009-08-08 06:31

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had a quick bit of fun with the fcc label drawing.

korbé 2009-08-08 11:29

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It has no 3 color LED?

ysss 2009-08-08 11:54

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@sachin: what's wrong with resistive touch screen?

tso 2009-08-08 11:58

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its not in fashion right now ;)

attila77 2009-08-08 12:30

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Originally Posted by korbé (Post 309800)
It has no 3 color LED?

If the SDK tablet icon is anything to judge by, it has moved to the front of the device (bottom left when held in landscape).

GeneralAntilles 2009-08-08 12:35

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Originally Posted by BatPenguin (Post 309771)
...and then it'll just be the same lovely 6 month waiting from announcement to availability that they had with the N97. So any moment now...in February 2010.

Well, Nokia's plan seems to be to release soon or immediately after an announcement. So, no, there shouldn't be any significant waiting periods (assuming no staggered global releases :().

korbé 2009-08-08 13:33

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Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 309807)
If the SDK tablet icon is anything to judge by, it has moved to the front of the device (bottom left when held in landscape).

I prefer when the LED is in the corner. This is more easily visible when the MIT is placed on a table or a desk and you receive a message.


An idea on the price of it?

(I must to start saving money. :D)

attila77 2009-08-08 14:19

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Originally Posted by korbé (Post 309811)
I prefer when the LED is in the corner. This is more easily visible when the MIT is placed on a table or a desk and you receive a message.

Yes, I liked that, too, as it was visible even when in the holster/bag. Others HAVE complained to me about it, but that was more LED brightness and sleep deprivation related :)

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An idea on the price of it?
(I must to start saving money. :D)
I'm not sure even Nokia folks know that yet, but save a 1000$ and then you'll even have money left for accessories :D But seriously, it would be surprising if it would be cheaper than (or even equal) the N97 as it outspecces the N97 quite a bit.

REMFwhoopitydo 2009-08-08 14:22

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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 309701)
may be it is the charger hole for the power adapter?

shame, i was hoping for micro-usb charging.

REMFwhoopitydo 2009-08-08 14:24

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 309711)
The power adaptor is an AC-10 (MicroUSB).

fantastic news.

REMFwhoopitydo 2009-08-08 14:32

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i've held off owning anything but the dumbest of £15 pay-as-you-go nokia phones for the last 10 years, this year i may finally crack and get a maemo 5 smartphone.

fpp 2009-08-08 15:06

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 309808)
Well, Nokia's plan seems to be to release soon or immediately after an announcement. So, no, there shouldn't be any significant waiting periods (assuming no staggered global releases :().

I'm really hoping you're right... but if the N810 experience repeats, then the French AZERTY-toting version will be way behind the rest :-)

luca 2009-08-08 15:25

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Originally Posted by fpp (Post 309825)
I'm really hoping you're right... but if the N810 experience repeats, then the French AZERTY-toting version will be way behind the rest :-)

I don't remember where I read it, but I think that europe was last (with many months of difference) in the release plan.
But don't worry, we'll have to pay much more than everyone else for the privilege of being last :D

attila77 2009-08-08 15:33

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No doubt about that :) :( The supposed release plan is now clearly way off (said June announcement with July release). On the other hand every source said this year, so even if the availabilty will not be global from day 1, there can't be much of an offset between markets.

debernardis 2009-08-08 16:26

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Photos are out! here http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=290

johnkzin 2009-08-08 17:20

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ARGH...

(small rant time, caused by a few years of frustration with thumb keyboards designed by complete idiots)

Do mobile phone thumb keyboard designers have any clue whatsoever? Are their heads firmly lodged in their butts? Do they ever even bother to actually USE the devices they design? (this isn't just Nokia, I've got a Samsung with a similarly brain damaged keyboard layout; and neither the nokia's nor the samsungs that I've used with control keys have them as toggle keys, which would at least make them usable)

How the F are you supposed to do a control-C on this thing? Or a control-D? Control-X or V?

The most common control key sequences are all RIGHT thumb keys. Having the control key on the right side works for full sized keyboards because you've got MORE THAN ONE FINGER to use at a time. THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR THUMB KEYBOARDS. IT'S F'ING ASININE TO PUT A CONTROL KEY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF A THUMB KEYBOARD.

*****s.

(end of rant)

mullf 2009-08-08 17:26

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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 309726)
However, one of the comments said:

"It's already denied, the patent was already filed by another company that is contracted by Symbian and Nokia and it's valid till 2020..."

but either the comment was BS, or my Google skills are lacking 'cause I couldn't find anything about Nokia being involved with hybrid capacitive/resistive screen technology.

The application hasn't even been examined yet. It's status is "Docketed New Case - Ready for Examination", meaning it has not yet been looked at by the examiner.

http://portal.uspto.gov/external/portal/pair

attila77 2009-08-08 17:28

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OK, the screen is really slick, no bezel and all, but... am I the only one who fails to see the home/esc buttons ? The mini-rectangle on the left of the face looks more like a speaker (in line with the voice functions).

mullf 2009-08-08 17:32

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Originally Posted by ioioio (Post 309737)

Something I've never thought about occurred to me when I was reading this list. "Capacitive screens: Activation: Requires direct skin contact." So someone with a prosthetic hand or arm would not be able use a capacitive screen device. Just a random thought.

korbé 2009-08-08 17:45

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This is invisible, or there was no camera on the front?

I don't really like the keyboard, but I think it's out of habit.

sachin007 2009-08-08 17:52

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Originally Posted by korbé (Post 309875)
This is invisible, or there was no camera on the front?

I don't really like the keyboard, but I think it's out of habit.

Yeah i almost forgot in the excitement! Where is the front facing camera :mad:

spock 2009-08-08 17:54

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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 309879)
Yeah i almost forgot in the excitement! Where is the front facing camera :mad:

I don't see it but it could easily be hidden beneath the glass. Shouldn't the Maemo5 API be pretty definitive (there will be one camera or two)? I wouldn't use the front facing camera anyway, but it would be nice to have.

drizek 2009-08-08 17:57

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Edit: wow, I was an hour and half late with that one.

korbé 2009-08-08 17:59

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Yes, I think too the front-cam is behind the glass.

And for Home and Return button, it's possible that the screen does not take the entire front, but the front is entire touch and the Home and Return button appear at power On.

debernardis 2009-08-08 18:00

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From http://www.kaskus.us/showthread.php?t=2170963 :

"Internal Memory 128 megabytes DDR manufactured by Samsung"

Only 128?????? :(

ysss 2009-08-08 18:10

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Originally Posted by mullf (Post 309867)
Something I've never thought about occurred to me when I was reading this list. "Capacitive screens: Activation: Requires direct skin contact." So someone with a prosthetic hand or arm would not be able use a capacitive screen device. Just a random thought.

Wouldn't they most likely need special pointed prosthetic\pen holder as well to deal with resistive screens?
I don't know how advanced synthetic materials used on the prosthetics nowadays, but I bet it wouldn't be too hard to ask for the proper material to be used on the finger tips\chosen area.

Now, multi touch gestures, that'd be harder.

drizek 2009-08-08 18:14

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128mb is unfortunate, but I think it should be enough. If the internal 32GB storage is fast then it can just use a few hundred mb of swap space.

REMFwhoopitydo 2009-08-08 18:24

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i thought it was fairly clear that the Omap 3 from TI came with 256MB and that this was confirmed by the freemantle sdk?

attila77 2009-08-08 18:25

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Originally Posted by drizek (Post 309899)
128mb is unfortunate, but I think it should be enough. If the internal 32GB storage is fast then it can just use a few hundred mb of swap space.

Not enough. Don't forget, this device is supposed to have both GTK and Qt libs in memory almost all the time, so even if you forego the memory load of the extra eyecandy, you will need more memory to keep things snappy. Swapping is an idiotic solution to this. Why bother putting in a 2x stronger CPU when half of the time it's going to wait for swap pages to come back into memory ? 256 is a must.

Mara 2009-08-08 18:28

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Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 309890)
From http://www.kaskus.us/showthread.php?t=2170963 :

"Internal Memory 128 megabytes DDR manufactured by Samsung"

Only 128?????? :(

If you look at the source where that figure was taken from... then think again how accurate that may be... :rolleyes::D

drizek 2009-08-08 18:28

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Like I said, it would be stupid to cripple the ram, but even if it is the case, I don't think it is a showstopper issue.

For me the deal breaker is going to be whether or not it has a functional web browser.

Edit: If true, whats the point of having FM radio? It just wastes space and battery life, it is a pretty useless feature nowadays. Seriously, is anyone going to be listening to radio when you can be listening to Pandora over 3G?

Rebski 2009-08-08 18:28

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Where is the front facing camera
No front facing camera means no video chat?

That is one of the coolest feature of the N800 and the reason family members bought them.

attila77 2009-08-08 18:31

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Wait for it, as people have pointed out, cams and sensors can be easily placed under the front glass. Buttons are a bit harder, but we'll see :)

tso 2009-08-08 18:32

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btw, i suspect the screen to be covered on the photos we have seen so far. seem a bit like a black piece of paper or something...

johnkzin 2009-08-08 18:34

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Originally Posted by drizek (Post 309907)
Seriously, is anyone going to be listening to radio when you can be listening to Pandora over 3G?

Or Rhapsody, or internet-radio stations, or ...

The _only_ reason I can see to have an FM receiver on any phone is:

If you've got an FM transmitter attachment on your iPod ;)

And even that use case would be better done with an audio-in jack on the NIT, IMO.

Now, an FM transmitter on the NIT/phone would be interesting ... so you could do that same trick, without an external dongle. But a receiver? no.

sachin007 2009-08-08 18:34

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Originally Posted by drizek (Post 309907)
Like I said, it would be stupid to cripple the ram, but even if it is the case, I don't think it is a showstopper issue.

For me the deal breaker is going to be whether or not it has a functional web browser.

Edit: If true, whats the point of having FM radio? It just wastes space and battery life, it is a pretty useless feature nowadays. Seriously, is anyone going to be listening to radio when you can be listening to Pandora over 3G?

Yes.. Especially since 3g sucks your battery! Now what is the problem if you have more options? If you dont like it dont use it.... For others it is very useful ... especially in developing countries where there is no 3g

johnkzin 2009-08-08 18:36

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Originally Posted by tso (Post 309910)
btw, i suspect the screen to be covered on the photos we have seen so far. seem a bit like a black piece of paper or something...

Yeah, it clearly still has the factory installed screen protector on it (thus the silver tab). That could be obscuring from the camera whatever is under protector.

attila77 2009-08-08 18:36

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Originally Posted by drizek (Post 309907)
Edit: If true, whats the point of having FM radio? It just wastes space and battery life, it is a pretty useless feature nowadays. Seriously, is anyone going to be listening to radio when you can be listening to Pandora over 3G?

a) a FM receiver uses a (microscopic) fraction of power compared to Pandora over 3G which is almost a full-throttle thing. Oh, and it's $free$.

b) It has an FM transmitter. This way you can listen to it in a car without additional adapters. My car has no fancy-shmancy ipod dock or bluetooth option, so I certainly appreciate this :)

c) if you have a transmitter, a receiver is a no-brainer.

d) it might be part of a bundle (like the FM radio came in a bundle with the bluetooth chip in the N800). So, if it's there anyway, why not use it.

Mara 2009-08-08 18:36

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Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 309911)
Now, an FM transmitter on the NIT/phone would be interesting ... so you could do that same trick, without an external dongle. But a receiver? no.

According to the test report the RX-51 does have both FM transmitter and receiver.

EDIT: So you can stream some internet radio station on the car and then transmit to your car stereo... That's what I would think is the use case...


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