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harlock74 2009-07-21 18:32

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
Help with localtime please... /etc/localtime shows me:

TZif GMT+7

I've set my time with the clock app to my city and timezone (I'm in Costa Rica, but using Denver, Colorado since we're on the same time zone). But /etc/localtime still shows +7, so when seqretary launches, it shows me as being 7 hours ahead of where it should be....

how do I set /etc/localtime to be the correct time zone for me??

Thanks.

trollo 2009-07-22 00:32

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
/etc/localtime sould be a symbolic link. What does it link to? What does the control panel's "Date and Time" setting say?

harlock74 2009-07-22 06:31

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trollo (Post 305844)
/etc/localtime sould be a symbolic link. What does it link to? What does the control panel's "Date and Time" setting say?

/usr/localtime says it's linking to: /usr/share/zoneinfo/Etc/GMT+7

in Control Panel/Date and Time I have:

Home City: Denver, CO,USA
Date and time show my local time (which I set manually)

Is it just a matter of changing the symbolic link to point to:
/usr/share/zoneinfo/Etc/GMT-6 (this is the time zone I need)... if so, how do I do this?

Also, I was trying something and messed up /usr/timezone...it was pointing to: /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Helzinki is this needed? and why does it point to Helzinki???

Thank you so much for your help, I'm looking forward to using your app, it seems to be what I've been needing for my tablet.

trollo 2009-07-22 21:19

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
Don't worry about /etc/timezone - very few apps use it these days. Europe/Helsinki is Nokia's head office time zone.
I don't know how you managed to get localtime pointing there - I don't think the Nokia control panel will ever do that since there is no city in the zone table with that time zone. Change it to point to /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Denver. I suspect once you do that (so that it's in sync with what the control panel thinks the zone should be) future changes to the zone will just work.

Nelson L. Squeeko 2009-07-22 22:41

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
I noticed a small bug. When you click the preview button for the alarm sound, it doesn't stop until the sound finishes. Not bad for a short sound, but for a full song its kind of long.

silvermountain 2009-07-22 22:47

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Additional feature request:

Currently an event in the weekly view (or daily I guess) can only be edited or deleted (when clicked on).
I wish one could see the whole event (title+location+description) in a window on that screen when you clicked or pressed on the event :)

silvermountain 2009-07-26 06:09

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
tried out the latest version tonight and some good and some bad.

thanks for the little icon on the applet - works great.
the numeric field change was also great.

but...the date list that appears when dragging ontop in week view is really bad i think.

so far the only really bad UI experience is the scrolling in week view. its close to unusable for me.

i would love to just be able to with one click show the next or past week. no scrolling at all. having a static view (always having sunday as start day makes it ao much faster to orient yourself)

also, id love it if the sat and sunday columns, in week view, would have a different color than yelllow.

great app

trollo 2009-07-26 06:48

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I don't like the popup menus either, but one of the purposes of betas is to try out different things to see what works. Since there were multiple people saying the old dragging interface for the date bar was no good (and frankly, I didn't like that one either), this was the next thing to try. I have some other ideas too but at this stage anything that's not trivial will be deferred until after the contacts app.

Of more concern in this beta for me is this: Did the update of the home applet work without causing the desktop to shut down and restart? Did the icon in the bottom right hand corner just appear, or did you have to turn off the applet and then turn it on again?

silvermountain 2009-07-26 06:52

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trollo (Post 306765)
I don't like the popup menus either, but one of the purposes of betas is to try out different things to see what works. Since there were multiple people saying the old dragging interface for the date bar was no good (and frankly, I didn't like that one either), this was the next thing to try. I have some other ideas too but at this stage anything that's not trivial will be deferred until after the contacts app.

I can understand that and appreciate your work of course. I would though love to see a week-to-week switch without a drag or day selector as soon as you may get to it :-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by trollo (Post 306765)
Of more concern in this beta for me is this: Did the update of the home applet work without causing the desktop to shut down and restart? Did the icon in the bottom right hand corner just appear, or did you have to turn off the applet and then turn it on again?

The update did not cause the tablet to restart. I myself did turn off the table and turn it back on again as I didn't see the corner-icon right away. I MAY not have looked closely enough - all I can say is that after the restart it was there and was working great.

jaem 2009-07-26 07:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trollo (Post 306765)
I don't like the popup menus either, but one of the purposes of betas is to try out different things to see what works. Since there were multiple people saying the old dragging interface for the date bar was no good (and frankly, I didn't like that one either), this was the next thing to try. I have some other ideas too but at this stage anything that's not trivial will be deferred until after the contacts app.

The popup menus are definitely more usable than the previous method, and if that's how it stays, I won't complain, but they don't quite "fit in" with the other, really slick interaction methods (e.g. drag-to-create events, and the goto-today gesture). If I think of anything better, I'll let you know. The new number choosers are much better too - thanks! As for your last comment there, I'm all for it; the Calendar app is already more than good enough for daily use, and if it's any indication of the direction that Seqretary is going, and its quality, then I'd like to see the rest of the suite.
Quote:

Originally Posted by trollo (Post 306765)
Of more concern in this beta for me is this: Did the update of the home applet work without causing the desktop to shut down and restart? Did the icon in the bottom right hand corner just appear, or did you have to turn off the applet and then turn it on again?

I didn't have an issue, but IIRC I had disabled the old version of the applet, and the update re-enabled it. That, I should point out, is probably not the best default behaviour. Maybe a first-run "did you know" popup would be better, so the user knows that the applet is available, without it just appearing on their home screen.

Also, as a side note, this is the sort of thing I love about FOSS: I made a couple of suggestions a week and a half ago, and there they were staring at me in the changelog tonight. Thanks for taking the time to listen to your users. :D

munky261 2009-07-27 02:18

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
Why can't I get seqretary to launch using personal menu? It wont launch from xterm using /usr/bin/seqretary either...says segmentation error. Any Ideas?

tso 2009-07-27 02:24

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workes fine here...

silvermountain 2009-07-27 02:31

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Lanching it from Personal Launcher and that works great.

trollo 2009-07-27 03:50

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Munky261: beats me. Try reinstalling (apt-get install --reinstall seqretary). If that fails, try renaming the .seqretary directory to see if there's some problem there (this should never cause this because of the way files are stored, but try anyway). Failing that, install gdb, run under that and send me the ouput of "trace" after the SEGV.

gman1 2009-07-27 22:25

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
I also had the old version of the applet turned off. After update it popped up with the icon and no need for a reboot.

In the week view I'd been using the click on day two title to move one day left click on day four title to move one day right. I notice now when I do that it opens the pop up the first time, but after that goes to the old method. That doesn't bother me, I'm used to it now.

Did I miss something in the update about number entry? I see it mentioned here. Is it to do with the keyboard, I normally use the screen?

BTW: I've tried every other calendar app for the n810. They're all gone now - this is my day to day calendar, and I've finally been able to put my palm on the shelf. Looking forward to being able to sync to back up my data. Thanks!

munky261 2009-07-27 22:30

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Ok, I renamed the directory the tried to start it, it did...in doing so it created a new .seqretary directory. Then I closed it and again, it wouldnt start. Then I deleted the .seqretary directory that was just created and It started again....worked a few times then again, it wont open. But , it will start if i delete the .seqretary directory, any ideas on why this is?

tso 2009-07-27 22:39

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are you entering something into the calendar?

munky261 2009-07-27 22:42

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Ok, I seem to have found that after deleteing, it starts up fine until I change any options, after I change an option, then it will no longer start from personal menu but it starts fine from the regular application menu.

tso 2009-07-27 23:38

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hmm, seems to not apply here. i just fired it up, changed the 24 hour clock setting, closed it down, and it would start again from personal menu...

munky261 2009-07-27 23:43

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
Im thinkin it might be time for a reflash...not just cause of this, though it is extremely odd...Ive noticed that my statusbar update notifier doesnt seem to be working either, among a few other minor and seemingly unrelated annoyances.

jlslate 2009-07-27 23:55

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
Great App! Another feature request. Double tapping the new icon on the main screen starts the main program.

trollo 2009-07-28 02:34

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
munky261: Are you sure you don't have a separate copy somewhere on your system?

Another possibility is having multiple copies of the same library with different ones being loaded.

You are running Diablo?

Anyway, running in gdb, then getting the output of "trace" after the SEGV might still provide useful info.

Also check that theere is free space on the device.

munky261 2009-07-28 22:20

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
I reflashed last night, installed personal menu and seqretary and the problem persists...it opened up the first time, I added a test appointment and changed some options, now it wont even open with the regular application menu. As for the gdb thing, im not familiar with that, is it something i install in app manager? And yes, Im running diablo and as of right now with all my apps installed there is about 60mb of free space.


edit: Now it is opening with the regular menu entry, but it wasnt last night...still no luck with personal menu

trollo 2009-07-29 01:55

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
gdb is available, I think, in the extras repository. However if you send me a copy of everything under your .seqretary directory that may help too.

For gdb, once installed, open up an xterm, then:

$ gdb /usr/bin/seqretary
...
(gdb) run
...
(gdb) trace

Snoshrk 2009-07-29 04:05

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
@trollo How are events stored in the events.db?

ie looking for a quick and dirty way to at import GCal data.:rolleyes:;)

munky261 2009-07-29 04:06

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
1 Attachment(s)
Here is my .seqretary folder. (removed the period) Also, couldnt find gdb to instal, doesnt seem to be on extras, even enabled extras devel to check there and no luck

trollo 2009-07-29 08:44

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
Snoshrk: It's a journalled tagged binary file format with range-indexed trees and free block lists. Not so good for manipulating with external utilities, but very good for preventing file corruption and for quickly finding stuff overlapping a date range. In short, don't expect to be able to manipulate it without building something using the Seqretary source code. If you did want to try that, the header files you would be interested in would be eventdb.h, event.h, schedhead.h, schedtime.h and schalarm.h

trollo 2009-07-29 09:21

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
munky261: I see nothing in the options file that should cause what you're seeing, and trying your files on Debian and on the tablet works for me. Does the problem still occur if you delete ".seqretary/options.dat"?

silvermountain 2009-07-29 13:57

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jlslate (Post 307112)
Great App! Another feature request. Double tapping the new icon on the main screen starts the main program.

I like that idea a lot. Say clicking on an event in the applet opens up Seqretary at the day of the event.

jaem 2009-07-29 22:31

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
Feature requests:
- Add checkbox to hide events from home applet, so that trivial daily items don't swamp the list, making it useless
- Allow recurring event exceptions to be defined more generally, as with the recurring event definitions themselves

Trollo: If you'd rather we take feature requests off-thread, let us know; this just seemed the best place so far

icke 2009-07-31 20:21

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I have installed version 0.92.6. Unfortunately I can't enter "all day" events. If I mark "all day" the OK button is greyed out. I haven't found someone mentioning this before and wonder if its just me? Any help is highly appreciated.

In addition I would be glad if someone could quickly summarize the function of the "Layer" in the edit of the event categories. What does Foreground, Shallow, Deep, and Background meen?

Thanks in advance,
icke

munky261 2009-07-31 20:28

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
If i delete the options file it will start up, until I change any options. And unfortunatly I have the week start on monday and i cant stand 24 hour time. lol

trollo 2009-07-31 21:33

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icke: Two possibilities - Seqretary is unhappy with your time zone, or the date in the end date for the event is less than the date for the start date. If it's the first case, what does /etc/localtime link to?

trollo 2009-07-31 22:13

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
munky261: You really need to get gdb installed without that all I'm doing is taking stabs in the dark (it might not help, but when it does help the problem stands out fairly quickly). It's in the Diablo tools repository - enable it in the Application Manager

munky261 2009-08-01 00:45

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
I installed gdb and ran it as your instructions saaid, it opened it and when i closed it it said it closed normally. then when i typed in trace it says it requires an argument

trollo 2009-08-01 03:38

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Not "trace".. flashback to an ancient debugger. "where". But this command is only useful when the segmentation violation occurs. You just need to cause it to SEGV and type in the "where" command then.

munky261 2009-08-01 03:50

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
it opens and closes fine when opening through gdb, i dont get a fault....but i get it everytime if i just try to open it in normal command line

munky261 2009-08-01 04:00

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
I think I may have found the cause of the problem, I have my personal menu set to run everything as root. Mainly just for emelfm2. when I became root then ran gdb and tried to launch seqretary it cam back with this...


Starting program: /usr/bin/seqretary
E Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session

Program exited with code 01.

trollo 2009-08-02 23:09

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You shouldn't be running things as root unless they really need it. That said, it shouldn't SEGV because of that. Try adding xterm to Personal Menu, to run as root, and run inside GDB then. Running an xterm as "user" and becoming root by means of rootsh, root, sudo gainroot and such things will not necessarily give the same result.

Also see if a "core" file gets generated outside gdb. That could be helpful too, although I have never seen a core file generated on my system so there may be some trick to getting them generated on Maemo (which I have not fully investigated).

munky261 2009-08-02 23:20

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I reset personal menu so that only emelfm2 runs as root, and it still wont open.


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