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tso 2009-08-03 00:57

Re: Seqretary PIM Suite
 
creating a core-dumps dir on the internal card (2GB space on N810) should result in core files being put there...

YoDude 2009-08-03 01:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 308373)
I reset personal menu so that only emelfm2 runs as root, and it still wont open.

Munky, I'm wondering if you are having desktop issues...

When you run emelfm2 from terminal @ root, do you get a GLIB warning in terminal before emelfm2 eventually opens?

munky261 2009-08-03 03:50

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Yes, it does come up with that if I open xterm, gain root, then type emelfm2. Cant explain why this behavior is happening with seqretary, I reflashed the other day, and it still wont launch from personal menu...I dont have any other errors or anything of any kind really, no random reboot, no desktop crashes, nothing.

trollo 2009-08-03 20:45

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Try creating the core-dumps directory as tso said and see if you can get a core dump.

munky261 2009-08-03 23:10

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I did that, tried to open seqretary in xterm, got the segmentation fault, but no core dump.

para 2009-08-03 23:36

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Question, is the Seq applet supposed to update automatically when an event is added?

YoDude 2009-08-04 00:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 308411)
Yes, it does come up with that if I open xterm, gain root, then type emelfm2. Cant explain why this behavior is happening with seqretary, I reflashed the other day, and it still wont launch from personal menu...I dont have any other errors or anything of any kind really, no random reboot, no desktop crashes, nothing.

You pro'ly have a corrupt icon cache or other system file.
I see you have had problems with other programs... I'm guessing you used emelfm2 to copy files like icons over to usr/share/icons/hicolor/whatever.

You may have inadvertently moved something somewhere the system doesn't expect (or want) something to be. :)

Edit: Added after your post in another thread...

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Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 308702)
I dont use the command line for this sort of thing, I just drag and drop using emelfm2 with root privileges.

^that may have something to do with this. :)

Also, if you are dragging batches of icons that at one time were kept in a windows directory, you could have inadvertently tossed in a hidden windows system file like Thumbs.db. Who knows what weird science that would invoke? :eek:

In any event, until you get that sorted out, I suspect you will continue to have annoyances with using other programs. :)

silvermountain 2009-08-04 01:15

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Originally Posted by para (Post 308588)
Question, is the Seq applet supposed to update automatically when an event is added?

My applet udates as soon as I've added an event.
I don't know if I have to close Seqretary for that to happen though.

para 2009-08-04 13:57

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OK, I removed and reinstalled, and it seems to be picking up the additions immediately now.

I was thinking about working a little on this app, perhaps looking to google syncing, but ran into a dependancy I don't recognize, gmcs. Can anyone give me a heads up on this one?

jaem 2009-08-04 23:37

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Originally Posted by icke (Post 308054)
In addition I would be glad if someone could quickly summarize the function of the "Layer" in the edit of the event categories. What does Foreground, Shallow, Deep, and Background meen?

I believe they're just arbitrary names given to four layers on the calendar. Essentially, it's like you had 4 physical calendars, which were all translucent,and could be overlayed. For example, let's say you're a university student, and you have a specific schedule which is the same every week. One week, you have an appointment which requires you to miss a lecture. Rather than editing the school schedule to make a recurrence exception, you can just assign the appointment event to a higher-level layer, and it will supersede anything on a lower layer.
This is just my conceptual understanding from features I've seen elsewhere - I haven't actually tried it on Seqretary, so I might be a bit off, but that's the behaviour I would expect. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

trollo 2009-08-05 09:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by para (Post 308588)
Question, is the Seq applet supposed to update automatically when an event is added?

Normally, yes. On the odd occasion DBus might fail to deliver the message.

trollo 2009-08-05 09:40

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Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 308585)
I did that, tried to open seqretary in xterm, got the segmentation fault, but no core dump.

OK, so no core dump, doesn't happen when you run it in gdb, doesn't happen when I run using your configuration file. Curse that Dr Heisenberg.

One last thing. Run an xterm from Personal Menu, type "set > env.txt" and send me a copy of env.txt - if that doesn't give me any clues we will have to arrange a time for a live debugging session.

munky261 2009-08-05 10:12

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I just found something odd...it will launch when i hold the menu entry down for a sec then release...for the life of me i cant figure out how in the hell this would affect anything. I think my N810 is on its last leg...Im having to super glue keys back on for chrissakes! LOL

jlslate 2009-08-11 16:09

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I just had to reflash my device, and when I did so, all my calendar events were gone. No big deal, as I didn't have very many entered, but I was wondering where the data is kept, so it can be backed up properly before the reflash.

Yes, I did a backup / restore...:D

tso 2009-08-11 16:38

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even better, future installs should include a config file for osso-backup, so that seqetary is included when using the backup system...

http://maemo.org/maemo_release_docum...00000000000000

fiacobelli 2009-08-27 23:18

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Great application! My only problem is that I can't use it because I have a lot of events scheduled in the future that I don't want to transfer everything by hand.
Is there an import feature? will there be one? so I can import vCal format or something like that?
I think that, along those lines, the google calendar sync is very important not only because a lot of us have our events there, but also as a periodic backup.

I'm looking forward to one or both of those facilities. Thanks for all the work you've put into this trollo.

wesgreen 2009-08-28 15:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fiacobelli (Post 316729)
Great application! My only problem is that I can't use it because I have a lot of events scheduled in the future that I don't want to transfer everything by hand.
Is there an import feature? will there be one? so I can import vCal format or something like that?
I think that, along those lines, the google calendar sync is very important not only because a lot of us have our events there, but also as a periodic backup.

I'm looking forward to one or both of those facilities. Thanks for all the work you've put into this trollo.

quote:
future installs should include a config file for osso-backup, so that seqetary is included when using the backup system...
that does seem very important.

tso 2009-08-31 15:20

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hmm, closing a alarm dialog (esc) do not dismiss the alarm, and i find no way to bring the alarm dialog back to do it correctly...

tso 2009-09-07 20:47

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interestingly, the "dismissed" alarm seems to rather have become snoozed for a week, as it went of again today...

wesgreen 2009-09-07 22:49

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Originally Posted by tso (Post 323382)
interestingly, the "dismissed" alarm seems to rather have become snoozed for a week, as it went of again today...

ditto here. trollo, are you back from vacation yet?

wesgreen 2009-10-10 21:38

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i need to stop talking to myself. anyway, i just did a "clear device" and "reset to factory settings" and installed a backup, and my seqretary calendar reappeared with all data intact. i guess this means that seqretary is being backed up after all.{?} cool!

tso 2009-10-11 01:37

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could be, maybe i missed a update or something.

wesgreen 2009-10-11 14:22

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Originally Posted by tso (Post 343555)
could be, maybe i missed a update or something.

have you managed to get rid of that alarm yet?

tso 2009-10-11 15:46

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heh, it showed up again after a day (must have taken it as a "temporary" snooze or something) and so i was able to funny turn it off then...

ppppppppppp 2009-10-20 05:34

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A couple of questions about Seqretary functionality:

1. Is it possible to group Tasks/Contacts by a particular field as you would in Outlook/Korganizer (e.g. Category or Company)?

2. Are there any view filtering capabilities for Tasks/Events/Contacts similar to ones in Outlook/Korganizer (e.g. something as basic as a Category filter)?

3. SyncML or any other reliable and straightforward sync support?

4. Plans for Maemo 5 version?

If the answer is yes for all the questions - I could be looking forward to N900.
You'd think there'd be something that does the first 3 by the end of 2009...

wesgreen 2009-10-20 13:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ppppppppppp (Post 352274)
A couple of questions about Seqretary functionality:

1. Is it possible to group Tasks/Contacts by a particular field as you would in Outlook/Korganizer (e.g. Category or Company)?

2. Are there any view filtering capabilities for Tasks/Events/Contacts similar to ones in Outlook/Korganizer (e.g. something as basic as a Category filter)?

3. SyncML or any other reliable and straightforward sync support?

4. Plans for Maemo 5 version?

If the answer is yes for all the questions - I could be looking forward to N900.
You'd think there'd be something that does the first 3 by the end of 2009...

i would guess "no" on 1. to 3., don't know about 4.

ppppppppppp 2009-10-20 23:19

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Sad news, wesgreen. I just hope your "guess" doesn't come from never using Seqretary.

I remember trollo was saying he based Seqretary on Outlook/Korganizer - the only Nokia/Maemo PIM dev to make such great statement. However, not having functionality described in points 1 to 3 is a killer.

Not one PIM app (osmo, kdepimpi, gpe calendar, pimlico, mcalendar) provides grouping functionality!!!
Only kdepimpi does basic category filtering!!!
How can this be???

wesgreen 2009-10-21 00:09

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i use seqretary a lot in fact and really like it. opens fast, small footprint etc. trollo achieved his design goals, i guess. the recording function is really cool too, once you get the hang of it.

sorodoros 2009-10-21 00:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ppppppppppp (Post 352274)
A couple of questions about Seqretary functionality:

1. Is it possible to group Tasks/Contacts by a particular field as you would in Outlook/Korganizer (e.g. Category or Company)?
2. Are there any view filtering capabilities for Tasks/Events/Contacts similar to ones in Outlook/Korganizer (e.g. something as basic as a Category filter)?
3. SyncML or any other reliable and straightforward sync support?
4. Plans for Maemo 5 version?..

My questions exactly. I could forgo calendar categories for multiple calendars, as long a some widget or today view pulled it all together. I gather something like that is planned natively, though it's not entirely clear. How do you read this:
http://maemo.nokia.com/features/calendar/

ppppppppppp 2009-10-21 01:47

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According to this bug report support for categories "was never planned or announced for this version, sorry"

Grouping, Sorting and Filtering are some of the crucial bits of functionality in Outlook(somewhat underdeveloped in Evolution and almost non-existent in KOrganizer).
They shouldn't affect the speed of operation.

Tintin 2009-10-21 07:09

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So what happens when a much liked application like this one gets 'abandoned' by the original creator? Is there some process where someone within the community picks it up? Unfortunately I am far from a developer myself.

tso 2009-10-21 07:14

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is it abandoned? have someone got in touch with the dev?

Tintin 2009-10-21 07:34

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Originally Posted by tso (Post 353585)
is it abandoned? have someone got in touch with the dev?

Is there a process for how apps are 'determined' to be abandoned? :)
Is it based on garage activity/not responding to bugs/requests in x months?

trollo 2009-10-24 00:22

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I haven't abandoned it. I have been spending time making sure the basics of the contacts application are right (uninteresting backend stuff like the storage and the vCard parser), but mostly life has interfered (I'm not a 19 year old university student with nothing else to do).

You can expect that when I'm adding a new significant application there will be a long time between updates.

I do plan to make a minor release this weekend to address a couple of things raised here and one other aspect of the user interface I have found inconvenient, but the next major update is still a while off.

Tintin 2009-10-24 00:41

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Yay! :)

sorodoros 2009-10-24 01:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trollo (Post 356952)
I haven't abandoned it...but the next major update is still a while off.

Could you comment on this previous post by ppppppppppp?

A couple of questions about Seqretary functionality:

1. Is it possible to group Tasks/Contacts by a particular field as you would in Outlook/Korganizer (e.g. Category or Company)?
2. Are there any view filtering capabilities for Tasks/Events/Contacts similar to ones in Outlook/Korganizer (e.g. something as basic as a Category filter)?
3. SyncML or any other reliable and straightforward sync support?
4. Plans for Maemo 5 version?

trollo 2009-10-24 20:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sorodoros (Post 356968)
1. Is it possible to group Tasks/Contacts by a particular field as you would in Outlook/Korganizer (e.g. Category or Company)?

The tasks and contacts applications are not available yet, but this is fairly basic functionality. As I have said before, I am looking at Outlook and Korganizer (being, I think, the 2 strongest applications in this area) as the inspiration for the UI.

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2. Are there any view filtering capabilities for Tasks/Events/Contacts similar to ones in Outlook/Korganizer (e.g. something as basic as a Category filter)?
See above for tasks and contacts. For events there are colour coded categories.

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3. SyncML or any other reliable and straightforward sync support?
Synchronisation is a next stage. The Contacts will have import from day 1 though since they tend to be valid longer so phase-in as a conversion strategy is not available.

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4. Plans for Maemo 5 version
None at this stage - I'm already on a contract for a 6600 for a while now and I don't have room in the budget to buy an N900 (even if it were at a subsidised price).

jaem 2009-10-25 03:02

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Trollo: good to see you (and seqretary) are still alive! :)
I'm just about to install the latest update, and I look forward to the release of what's still in development.
A few comments:
- One issue I've noticed is that it is possible to create an event of such a short duration (e.g. one minute) that it is impossible to delete, due to zooming constraints. I did this without thinking, to essentially function as an alarm for a recurring event of negligeable duration, and now I'm left with a choice between putting up with it ringing every evening when I don't want it to, or scrapping my whole calendar and re-entering everything. That falls partially under PEBKAC (on my part), but I also feel that it's a bit of a usability problem for the application as well. I'm not sure what the best solution for that is (maybe put a sensible lower bound on duration (say, 5 minutes), and add an alarm feature), but something should probably be done when you have a chance.

- If you have decided yet, are you planning on writing your own stand-alone todo system, or one based on (or synced with) an existing service? Judging by your work so far, I wouldn't be surprised if you had something unique and awesome up your sleeve, but if not, merely getting a good feature-complete and stable app out the door that syncs with, say, RTM (with local-only optional) would be awesome, and the more so for your excellent design and usability sense.

internetpilot 2009-10-25 03:45

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How has anyone been able to try this app? All the times I've tried from the download page I cannot get it to work, and the repository fails to refresh in App Mgr. I have not had these issues with any other app here, so I do not think it is something I'm doing (or not doing). Is there an alternate download method of which I am unaware?

Tintin 2009-10-25 05:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by internetpilot (Post 357549)
How has anyone been able to try this app? All the times I've tried from the download page I cannot get it to work, and the repository fails to refresh in App Mgr. I have not had these issues with any other app here, so I do not think it is something I'm doing (or not doing). Is there an alternate download method of which I am unaware?

Can't remember where I downloaded mine from but it works and looks great. You can try from here as well: http://software.kawseq.com/maemo/pool/main/s/seqretary/


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