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StevenS 2005-11-06 19:33

N770 screen protection?
 
First things first! If the unit arrives one day it should get a screen protection. Can anyone post the exact measures of the screen in order to cut a protective film for it?
BTW, what type of surface does the screen have?
Do you have any recommendation for a good touch screen protective film?

Reggie 2005-11-06 23:44

The only place I've seen screen protectors for the 770 is at ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=50332

Mathieu 2005-11-07 08:35

I can test one of the best solution of screen protection but I need asap the exact dimension of the screen (Height * Width... in mm if possible).

lbattraw 2005-12-17 16:55

PSP/770 Screen Protectors
 
I bought some Pelican brand screen protectors for the PSP which happen to fit perfectly vertically, and with .25 inches removed horizontally work very well. They are about $9.00 (a little pricey), but are made of thicker plastic than normal so they are MUCH easier to pull off and reposition as well as avoiding/removing bubbles. Just make sure you trim off a quarter inch of width and notch a corner so you can get it back off. It's no fun trying to scrape it off without an exposed corner.

Larry

orbitalcomp 2005-12-17 20:03

I also used these Pelican protectors made for the PSP, got them at Wal-Mart in a two-pack...they do fit perfectly vertically, and I just got a box cutter and cut about 7mm off of one end. The thick material makes it very easy to apply without any air bubbles, plus a screen cloth is included...

Good luck!

Lord Bodak 2005-12-18 06:51

For my PDAs, I've always used a product that wasn't made for very long called Glasswrites or something similar. Basically, it's a transparency sheet cut down to be slightly larger than the screen, which then slides under the frame of the screen. I'm not a big fan of screen protectors that use adhesive.

I don't have my 770 yet, so I haven't seen one in person, but I'd like to use something similar. Is there enough of a gap under the edge of the screen frame to slide something under?

jaycee 2005-12-19 15:25

UK screen protectors, £3.99 for 3 at Jessops
 
Here's what I found over the weekend: http://www.jessops.com/shop.cfm?product=JESDLCDSP

They're in stock in Jessops shops, too.

I've not actually /tried/ one yet, but I do know:

a) £3.99 for 3
b) They are only slightly too big for the 770 screen, hence they do fit (with a bit of cutting down)
c) They are obviously OK for touch screens are they're sold as being suitable for PDAs and the touchscreens on the back of more modern digital cameras
d) I think there'll be no problems when replacing a worn-out protector, as why would one get 3 to each pack otherwise? In other words, I don't think they'll weld themselves irrevocably to the screen ... :)

I'll update this thread when I've actually applied one ...

Jaycee

nowen 2005-12-20 13:12

Do not buy from here. They sent me the wrong size (3 1/2 x 2 1/8). I called and they asked what screen size is the Nokia 770. I said I don't know as I don't have one yet. They said they didn't know either but they sure advertise they do. They also said I could still use it anyway, what a joke!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=56167

nowen 2005-12-20 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbattraw
I bought some Pelican brand screen protectors for the PSP which happen to fit perfectly vertically, and with .25 inches removed horizontally work very well. They are about $9.00 (a little pricey), but are made of thicker plastic than normal so they are MUCH easier to pull off and reposition as well as avoiding/removing bubbles. Just make sure you trim off a quarter inch of width and notch a corner so you can get it back off. It's no fun trying to scrape it off without an exposed corner.

Larry

Are these Pelican protectors working OK with the touch screen function?
Thanks for any replies!

orbitalcomp 2005-12-20 13:30

Mine are working fine...as a matter of fact, the clarity on them is great, it's very hard to even tell they are on there...

I don't know about others, but I have always used my touchscreen devices without a stylus the majority of the time. I tend to use my fingertip and/or fingernail, so these screen protectors work perfect.

The nice thing about the Pelicans is that they are very easy to get on without any dust or lint getting stuck while applying, and they are a stiffer film so there are no air bubbles...

StevenS 2005-12-20 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by orbitalcomp
...

The nice thing about the Pelicans is that they are very easy to get on without any dust or lint getting stuck while applying, and they are a stiffer film so there are no air bubbles...

If you read the reviews for this product at amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...90310?v=glance) you never want to buy them.

Has anyone ever used the 3M protective film called UltraClean? Someone at ebay sells them even for the Nokia 770 (http://cgi.ebay.de/3x-3M-SCHUTZFOLIE...QQcmdZViewItem). 3 for 4.95 €. Unfortunately they seem to work with glue.

fuslit 2005-12-20 14:48

I bought the Pelican screen protector, I trimmed a bit, but did not realize that they attracted lint so fast, I will have to use the other on when I get ambitions to attempt to re-apply. (I figure I would use the one I have for the moment)

The clarity seems to be ok, and the touchscreen works fine. But it must have static that pulls little pieces of lint to the film like moth's to flame.

I'm just going to live with it because it was fairly easy to get.

-Todd

pdafan 2005-12-21 18:12

Fellowes Universal screen protectors @ CompUSA
 
I went to CompUSA to play with a 770, and while I was there I noticed
these:

http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...393&pfp=BROWSE

They are large enough to fit on the 770. I pulled one out of the package
and it seemed somewhat stiff and it had an adhesive on the back. However, I also looked at all the Palm/HP screen protectors, and they seemed identical except that they were all smaller. These Fellowes protectors would have to be trimmed to fit.

Anyone use these before? Anyone have experience with protectors with adhesives on them? The glue wasn't very strong, it was really just a tacky layer, but I wouldn't want to leave any residue on the screen.

I will buy them today, $19 for 12. I'm still waiting for my 770 :(

- Ari

punk84 2005-12-22 03:02

l have tryed the fellows brand screen protector, on my 770. I did not like them at all for multiple reasons:
  • very diffacult to apply without bubbles , i think it has something todo with the adhesive being to strong
  • you have to trim the plastic in hieght and width
  • once on it is very hard to remove, i thought i was going to damage the screen
  • the plastic is very thick and has a rough texture making stylus use very difficult
After i gave up on the fellowes screen protectors, i went and got a pelican psp protector. I can not even tell it is on the screen. no bubbles, easy stylus movement, and fairly easy application. :)

pdafan 2005-12-22 16:03

I tried the Fellowes protectors on my 5MX, and they were ok. When using the supplied squeegee I didn't have major trouble installing one without bubbles. Once it was placed, it was almost invisible. Stylus operation and sensitivity didn't seem to be affected.

However, the entire set of films seemed to be scratched! There were 3 stripes on each film from one end to the other. It looked like a flaw from manufacturing. I'll exchange the whole package.

The adhesive was not that strong - it helps to cut off a corner before installing so you can get a fingernail under the film. No residue was left on the screen after removal.

Another thing to note is that 6 of the films included were glossy, while 6 had a matte finish.

These will do for me until someone finds a better solution. I already looked at the Intek PSP protectors.

Mike Cane 2005-12-22 20:57

FYI:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...=4928#post4928

Mike Cane 2005-12-23 18:01

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...=5014#post5014

erica 2005-12-27 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by nowen
Do not buy from here. They sent me the wrong size (3 1/2 x 2 1/8). I called and they asked what screen size is the Nokia 770. I said I don't know as I don't have one yet. They said they didn't know either but they sure advertise they do. They also said I could still use it anyway, what a joke!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=56167

Damn,,I just bought these....now I'm worrried! I really hope they corrected this since you informed them because I didn't pay for these ones so I'd have to make them fit.....I bought them because the auction says they are for the nokia 770. :mad:

::::crossing my fingers::::: :(

Mike Cane 2005-12-30 21:21

Lots of screen protector reviews here:

http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/categor..._non_adhesive_

And keep us posted, erica!

-- edited to add:

OQO owners have the same issues...

http://www.handtops.com/forum/1610/0...rotector.html#

http://www.handtops.com/forum/236/0/..._the_OQO.html#

Robette 2005-12-31 01:11

I posted this in the news section but the hori PSP screen protectors are supposedly the best and are only $5. The width needs to be cropped slightly but it works great.

Etaoin Shrdlu 2005-12-31 01:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robette
I posted this in the news section but the hori PSP screen protectors are supposedly the best and are only $5. The width needs to be cropped slightly but it works great.

I picked up 2 of the pellicans at Target this afternoon. They need to be trimmed, but they're a whole lot better than what I was using. Just make sure to install right to left (so that the vertical scroll bar is covered).

Etaoin

Robette 2005-12-31 07:20

Yes. Also be careful of your lines are striaght. I had to pull mine off halfway through initially because of this. The result was that top edge that fit underneath the case became malformed, leaving a thin inch long section that won't stick down.

I can't see it while it's on but I worry about the dust that will inevitably collect underneath it.

skynetos 2005-12-31 07:56

my god, it sounds like a lot of you are having so much trouble with screen protection, some even reported screwing up their screens even more so by applying and reapplying screen adhesives.

I am a HEAVY Nokia 770 user, and the area around the keyboard looks JUST like a heavily used touch screen should. I had a Zaurus for 4/5 years and its screen only begin to show visible marks in its 4th year.

No one should be worried about their 770 screens unless they use it too hard or improperly. Come on guys, they included 2 stylus's, dont you think they thought of testing the screen to see how easily it scratches?

Robette 2005-12-31 22:30

I don't know. My mate's palm looked atrocious after just a year of heavy use. Seeing that made me swear to always use protection ;)

skynetos 2005-12-31 23:13

ha ha ha. Well ask yourself, how does a screen become scuffed?

Well its the stylus, but what about the stylus scuffs the screen. Well, particles that build up on the screen that get dragged around both roughen the stylus as well as scuff the screen.

Keeping your screen free of particles is key, as is changing stylus's every 6-8 months, maybe a year depending on use.

ttpcomp 2006-01-03 07:30

Overlays for the N770
 
A company with a very good OVERLAY reputation.
Expensive but high quality.

http://www.overlayplus.com/index1.asp

TTP

kessdaman 2006-01-18 19:19

Another place to try

PDAScreenprotectors.com

They cut few samples for me and they worked well, and they best part is that they are not adhesive. Worth investigating.

bertdude 2006-01-20 16:21

Overlay outfit that will cut to your size..
 
http://www.photodon.com/lcdprotect-sheet.htm

oafbot 2006-02-12 01:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by erica
Damn,,I just bought these....now I'm worrried! I really hope they corrected this since you informed them because I didn't pay for these ones so I'd have to make them fit.....I bought them because the auction says they are for the nokia 770. :mad:

::::crossing my fingers::::: :(


So I bought this product too... The size fits perfectly, and the service by the seller (with regards to shipping... etc) were great. However, the material is almost impossible to apply to the screen without a multiplicity of air bubbles getting in. It also attracts a lot of lint, so even if you have cleaned the screen, you have to watch out that none land in between the screen and the protector in the few short seconds before application. After much fussing and squeezing one can rid of most of the air bubbles, but a few will always remain. I went through two of these films before I had one acceptable application. It would have been nice if the seller had included a $1 plastic burnisher with the $16 package. The air bubbles are almost impossible to get out without a specialized tool.

I will now most certainly go out and get a Hori Screen Protector for the PSP.

adl99 2006-02-12 16:34

I'm in the UK so I might try out the Jessops protectors but I have to say I'm going to see if I can get an 'invisible shield' protector. My iPod nano got one as soon as it was taken out of the box a few months ago, and it has been absolutely fantastic. It's true when they say you can key it and it's fine. wipe-clean etc. It's worked fantastically.

More info here!

partridge 2006-02-13 03:28

I went with the Martin Fields protectors. They're from japan, are very clear, and have a shiny smooth texture like the normal screen surface.

I've used them on my palms, and treos with great results. I have one for my 770 and one for my SLVR on order (should be in the mail soon).

I think they're the ones overlayplus sells.

Fifer 2006-02-13 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by adl99
I'm in the UK so I might try out the Jessops protectors but I have to say I'm going to see if I can get an 'invisible shield' protector. My iPod nano got one as soon as it was taken out of the box a few months ago, and it has been absolutely fantastic. It's true when they say you can key it and it's fine. wipe-clean etc. It's worked fantastically.

More info here!

I'm using the Jessops protectors. They're ok (certainly better than nothing) but they aren't invisible. They are quite easy to apply and I've vritually no air bubbles, but the surface isn't perfectly smooth. There seem to be vertical imperfections in the film, which slightly detract from the screen quality.

adl99 2006-02-13 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by partridge
I went with the Martin Fields protectors. They're from japan, are very clear, and have a shiny smooth texture like the normal screen surface.

I've used them on my palms, and treos with great results. I have one for my 770 and one for my SLVR on order (should be in the mail soon).

I bought a M.F. protector for my lady's iPod nano (I bought her a pink one from Colorware and the MF protector for comparison to mine. I have to say I wasn't overly fond of it. It did not stick well, but BIG DISCLAIMER I am pretty sure that this was due to the surface of the custom nano not being flat. The paint becomes slightly raised around the edges (by the clickwheel etc.) and so the surface isn't perfectly flat (just how the paint goes on). THUS I imagine that with a flat surface it sticks perfectly. After all many people recommend them. That said, they did look to be a little too 'easy-remove'. The invisible shield is very sticky when set (you have to apply it properly by moistening the adhesive).

I was surprised at the stiffness of the MF protector -somewhere between a credit card and a sheet of OHP plastic. The Invisible Shield one is a lot more malleable. I can't honestly say what it would be like for long-term stylus use, but I also imagine the I.S. protector would be a lot more pleasant to use than the M.F. one. The best analogy I can come up with is writing on a sheet of paper with a few sheets of paper underneath (invis shield) or a sheet of paper placed on a hard surface (MF).

partridge 2006-02-14 04:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by adl99
I bought a M.F. protector for my lady's iPod nano (I bought her a pink one from Colorware and the MF protector for comparison to mine. I have to say I wasn't overly fond of it. It did not stick well, but BIG DISCLAIMER I am pretty sure that this was due to the surface of the custom nano not being flat. The paint becomes slightly raised around the edges (by the clickwheel etc.) and so the surface isn't perfectly flat (just how the paint goes on). THUS I imagine that with a flat surface it sticks perfectly. After all many people recommend them. That said, they did look to be a little too 'easy-remove'. The invisible shield is very sticky when set (you have to apply it properly by moistening the adhesive).

I was surprised at the stiffness of the MF protector -somewhere between a credit card and a sheet of OHP plastic. The Invisible Shield one is a lot more malleable. I can't honestly say what it would be like for long-term stylus use, but I also imagine the I.S. protector would be a lot more pleasant to use than the M.F. one. The best analogy I can come up with is writing on a sheet of paper with a few sheets of paper underneath (invis shield) or a sheet of paper placed on a hard surface (MF).

There's actually a thread somewhere about the new nanos having raised edges to help prevent scratches, and how that interferes with screen protectors, so that's probably the problem you're running into.

I've never tried the invisible shield ones. Are they shiny too, or matte?

adl99 2006-02-14 13:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by partridge
I've never tried the invisible shield ones. Are they shiny too, or matte?

They're, erm, in between? If I had to plump for one, I'd say matte, though. Certainly a lot more so than the MF ones. They're quite cheap - it's probably worth ordering one & trying it out on your coffee mug or something, just so you get a feel for what they're like. It will be protecting your £250 baby, after all.

adl99 2006-02-14 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by partridge
There's actually a thread somewhere about the new nanos having raised edges to help prevent scratches, and how that interferes with screen protectors, so that's probably the problem you're running into.

If they are doing that now, it's certainly a problem you'd run into, but it's not that...

If you [look here] you'll see that just below the click wheel there's a reflection that curves up around the outside of said wheel. It's just where the paint had 'pooled' slightly when it was wet. This happens on everything where there's an edge. In practice it's not really noticable. The only response my girlfriend has had to a pink nano is jealousy =] Certainly worth the extra I paid!

polyesterangst 2006-02-14 18:22

Used PSP covers
 
I found that the PSP screen covers are the same height, and just a few mm wider than the 770 screen. So I just trimmed the edge and slapped it on. Turned out great, and provides excellent protection. :D

waddell 2006-02-23 02:24

Good news. I sent an inquiry to the nice folks at boxwave.com asking them to
add a 770 screen protector to their lineup. Their first response was to use their
universal protector and cut it myself. ( which I'm far too inept to do )

BUT, I just received another message from them saying that they added a 770 screen protector to their lineup. ( actually they added two models - one anti-glare and one crystal clear )

ClearTouch Crystal Protector

Anti-Glare

I've had really good luck with one of their protectors on my palm one lifedrive. It was easy to apply and looked great. Hopefully the 770 protector will work as well.

Jeffgrado 2006-02-23 04:04

Thanks for the heads up, waddell. I have used the anti-glare protector on a Treo and the cleartouch on another palm and they both work well. I like the cleartouch more, personally.

waddell 2006-02-23 05:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffgrado
Thanks for the heads up, waddell. I have used the anti-glare protector on a Treo and the cleartouch on another palm and they both work well. I like the cleartouch more, personally.


Me too. The anti-glare isn't as sharp and for my circumstances isn't really necessary.

The thing I like most about these protectors though is that they are stiff enough that even a klutz like me can put them on without leaving any bubbles - something I haven't been able to do before with palm or brando workshop protectors.

It almost goes without saying, but even though we like them, lots of other people may really dislike them. ( but I doubt it )


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