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gerbick 2009-06-13 19:11

Archos 9
 
I didn't see this one listed yet...

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Give up on that mythical iTablet for a minute and feast your eyes on the Archos 9 ($625; Fall 09). This thin (0.63'') netbook/tablet PC device sports a 9-inch touchscreen and runs Windows 7. Powered by an Intel ATOM Z515 processor, the Archos 9 features an 80GB hard drive, webcam, Bluetooth, optical trackpoint, Wi-Fi, built-in speakers, and optional 3G wireless.
See/Read more here.

Not exactly pocketable by a long shot; however full Windows 7 support, authentic Intel processor and (for me) full Flash support. This might replace my NIT simply because it does what I need.

All but have a long-lasting battery.

skatebiker 2009-06-13 21:48

Re: Archos 9
 
Nice tablet for a reasonable price, but I hope one can install Kubuntu or #!CrunchBang Linux on it instead of or beside Windows as Windows is rather slow compared to Linux.
It is as thin as the N810 (16mm) but much larger.

Nichod 2009-06-13 21:55

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I hate that statement "Windows is rather slow compared to Linux"....it really isn't true. Both Windows and the various forms of Linux can be optimized for performance provided one knows what they are doing.

But I do agree that it would be nice if Linux could be installed....the option is always nice. I do wonder on that because lately Archos has really locked down changing the OS in there other products.

attila77 2009-06-13 22:44

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Originally Posted by Nichod (Post 296407)
But I do agree that it would be nice if Linux could be installed....the option is always nice. I do wonder on that because lately Archos has really locked down changing the OS in there other products.

Lately ? They were always fighting it tooth and nail (with the exception of the PMA430 experiment). Also, even if you DO manage to boot linux it will be anybody's guess as to what hardware parts have native linux support. It's enough to miss wifi+bt support and the whole thing becomes an oversize PMP.

BTW, in true Ar¢ho$ style, VGA, Ethernet and +2 USB seem only availabe through an additional docking port (also questionable from driver standpoint).

Also, whoever made the choice to use a glossy screen ought to be shot. The video was made in a low-light ambient and the reflections were still quite apparent, what happens if someone tries to use this in daytime ? Ugh.

johnkzin 2009-06-13 23:30

Re: Archos 9
 
I'd find it an interesting device with Ubuntu on it, support for screen rotation, and a decent virtual keyboard. However, the price, in comparison to an Touchbook, is a bit difficult to swallow.

gowen 2009-06-14 20:30

Re: Archos 9
 
Personally, I think the Viliv X70 is a better solution. It still has a 1024 pixel wide screen, but in a 7 inch package.

johnkzin 2009-06-14 20:59

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I'd prefer a 9" screen over a 7".

(in fact, I'd prefer a 9" over a 5", 7", 10", 11", or 12"+ screen, for my non-pocketable mobile device, so non-pocketable MIDs/netbooks/tablets/UMPCs smaller than 9", and MIDs/netbooks/tablets/UMPCs larger than 9", are both uninteresting to me)

gowen 2009-06-15 08:27

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Engadget has a post on the Crunchpad, which I believe has a 12" screen. Can't help thinking that's too big for a tablet. 7 to 9 inch seems optimum, although in the end it will all come down to how finger friendly the ui is.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/14/c...dled-on-video/

icke 2009-06-16 19:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 296666)
I'd prefer a 9" screen over a 7".

(in fact, I'd prefer a 9" over a 5", 7", 10", 11", or 12"+ screen, for my non-pocketable mobile device, so non-pocketable MIDs/netbooks/tablets/UMPCs smaller than 9", and MIDs/netbooks/tablets/UMPCs larger than 9", are both uninteresting to me)

So what about 8.8'' or 9.2''. Are they to small / big? :cool:

icke

johnkzin 2009-06-16 19:13

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I will evaluate 8.8", 9.1", and 9.2" screens on a case by case basis :-)

(8.9" screens seem to be largely synonymous with 9" screens, so I'm lumping them together)

Baloo 2009-06-16 19:20

Re: Archos 9
 
The Archos looks an amazing device from the spec's, let just hope its hackable.

nilchak 2009-06-16 19:58

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While the Archos does look nice and I even like using Wndows 7 ( (of late over my Linux installs even) but I really want a Mobile OS for a mobile device.

Even though the screen is 7" but I don't want to pick on menus and sub-menus of a full blown OS on a smallish tablet. I would much prefer a mobile UI based OS =- rather like Maemo or maybe Ubuntu Mobile (which I haven't really used).

If I wanted to use full blown Ubuntu or Windows 7 I would much rather use a netbook like device - which is much cheaper.

Also using a Atom processor and powering a 80GB HDD and a full blown OS like that on a touchscreen means battery life will be dismal (like any netbook, touchpad etc). Isn't battery life a big component of why the Nokia IT's are such a "darling" to us....

totololo 2009-06-16 20:08

Re: Archos 9
 
I second Nilchak's advice.

A handheld device of this type should be instant-on (2 seconds maximum) and should not take more than 5 seconds to launch a big application. It should not have any mechanical part like a spinning hard drive or any fan, for handeling pleasure, noise and battery life.

In fact, such a device should just run Maemo, let's say it should be just a little bit more powerfull than our N8xx withe the same system and the big screen.

Lord Raiden 2009-06-16 21:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gowen (Post 296658)
Personally, I think the Viliv X70 is a better solution. It still has a 1024 pixel wide screen, but in a 7 inch package.

WOOHOO! Thanks for tipping me off to this! I either ignored it or completely missed it at CES and during the aftermath. I've gone and requested one for review, so we'll see what comes of this. I'm kinda stoked about this. :)

Rebski 2009-06-17 10:33

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I've gone and requested one for review
Let us know when it is done?

johnkzin 2009-06-17 13:06

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Originally Posted by Lord Raiden (Post 297306)
WOOHOO! Thanks for tipping me off to this! I either ignored it or completely missed it at CES and during the aftermath. I've gone and requested one for review, so we'll see what comes of this. I'm kinda stoked about this. :)

Did you ever get one of the Touchbooks for review?

Lord Raiden 2009-06-17 14:53

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Rebski: Will do. Just requested yesterday, so I don't expect to hear from them any sooner than friday. Sometimes it takes me several weeks to get them to respond, so the review won't be immediate.

Johnkzin: Funny you should ask. I just touched base with them a couple days ago to see where they were at in the dev process and they said July for the proposed release date, so I don't expect to see a review unit anytime before then. But when it comes in I can let you guys know. Given the response and the number of people on the waiting list, it'll more likely be sometime around August. :)

attila77 2009-06-17 15:03

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Apropo touchbook, they put this up on their site a few days ago:

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Info about the Touch Book coming next week

Next week, we will start updating our pre-customers as well as our visitors about the release of the Touch Book during the summer. You can expect photos and information about our cute little device. Stay tuned and thanks for your patience!

The Always Innovating Team
Friday, June 12, 2009

Lord Raiden 2009-06-17 19:36

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Ooo. That means I might get my update soon. :)


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