Re: ReadWriteWeb: Tablets are Toys (Not Mainstream Machines)
 

I think you read this article, didn't you?

Re: ReadWriteWeb: Tablets are Toys (Not Mainstream Machines)
 

makes me wonder/worry about when google wave takes hold...

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Google Wave has potential to change how document collaboration and sharing happens. However, it still is very much about text-based communications, not audiovisual.

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i am sure they will allow video and audio to be inserted.

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Given the amount of stuff some women keep in their handbags, even this may be portable for them:

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/...595/index.html

;-)

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Sucks that I just lost my orig reply because I had a network glitch...

The Ars article posted in this conversation pointed out the real issue with tablets (aka its not the tech); if people are doing things the same way, using applications designed decades ago which were clunky solutions even then, why should they change their behavior to using a different type of device, when they want to do the same behaviors.

Many of the complaints about tablets come not from the tech, but because people don't change their behaviors (easily). Folks here do, but "we" are a niche case, and therefore outlier actions should be expected.

If you want people to use more tablets, then you have to give them an incentive to change the way they look at computer-based information. The idea of using OneNote for educational needs is relevant enough that it endears the teacher and student both to see the value of tablet-like technologies. Same thing for the designer, drafter, etc. The relevancy of the tech is rooted in something that matters to them personally.

I don't know that some informational workers would feel the same way concerning tablets because their personal deposit into that kind of tech doesn't match the relevancy of their work. That said, if they were to look at how they worked, then they'd see that jumping from Outlook to browser to Word makes no sense at all. Things should be unified better for those kinds of informational needs. Who will be the first to actually do different though is another issue.

Google Wave works because it started clean sheet. Wordpy works because it looks and acts like something you'd use on a tablet. If all applications took that aspect of UI/UX into consideration, we'd not be having the conversation of whether a hardware form factor is relevant or not.

Re: ReadWriteWeb: Tablets are Toys (Not Mainstream Machines)
 

I just thought I would put in my two-cents real quick.

I'd like to think of myself as a "regular" person and I most definitely went out looking for a keyboard. I tossed around the idea for a long time about upgrading to the n810 just for that hardware keyboard. What stopped me was that any device that is small enough to carry in my pocket or not take up too much space in my bag isn't going to have a large enough keyboard to type on. I went with a bluetooth one just so that I could have a decent sized keyboard that I could carry easily with my tablet.

And on the note of work, I do plenty of work on my tablet. I have been writing lesson plans on it since I started my job here about 8 months ago. Before that I was working in a machine shop where a tablet really wasn't all that necessary. Now that I am writing lesson plans I find that I use it more than ever.

But I do suppose a lot of the criticism out there has credence. The uses of an NIT in the work place might not be the most obvious off the bat to everyone but once you have something like this in your hand the possibilities just start popping out of the clouds. I kid you not, almost everyone of my co-workers, upon seeing me use my n800, has asked me "Where can I get one of those?"

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Absolutely agreed. I have been working with these from the start and am still pleasantly surprised by some use cases that pop up.

My experience showing off the N800 was the same as yours. The ONLY thing that killed the joy for others in my circle was the video latency. I daresay if that had never been an issue in the N800 and N810, Nokia might have sold twice as many of each.

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I actually, haven't experienced that in either of my devices.

Tim

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I'm capable of doing a lot on my tablet... but since what I dev isn't even up to date on the NIT, I'm SOL.

No Flex, no AS3 compiler that doesn't require me to stay in command line, no code hinting dev... yeah, I can VPN in, slowly use what's on my desktop, but my religion would be in peril.

I can admin some machines though. So... yay?

I can't open MS Office 2007 files, I can edit XML, I can't create Flash/Flex files, I can admin most of my machines, I can't use Photoshop/Adobe Creative Suite 3, I can use Skype, I can't use .NET, I can use VoIP.

Meh, using the NIT past internet, e-mail, communication becomes a tad bit tedious if you're not the kind of person that dislikes being in the terminal all damn day - and after 20 years of being in a terminal at one time or another, I'm personally friggin' tired of a black screen and green or white text looking back at me all day.

I use other items to get work done that will never be on the NIT. Which is fine. It's not a replacement to my laptop or desktop.

But the Apple Tablet... if they release it with the iPhone OS, that means no multitasking. I don't have the time to waste on that since I've been multi-tasking for 3 years on one NIT or another (770 and N810). And if it doesn't come with SketchPad Pro and the normal OS X... I'm avoiding it.

I need a tablet... for notes, sketches and other design-y stuff. Screw a terminal for admin my machines - I can do that from my iPhone now.