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Karel Jansens 2006-09-15 12:54

Maemopad+: What in fork's name is going on???!!!!!
 
(Please note the 5 (five!!!!!) exclamation marks)

This application is in the 2006 application list (http://maemo.org/maemowiki/Applicati...904f38af71f96), but try as I might, there is no way to either get it to show up in the Application Manager's list (and trust me that I've tried everything, short of repeatedly banging my 770 on the floorboards), or even to get it to install directly (the *.armel.deb file is not recognized as a file my 770 can do anything particular with).[*]

I find it most embarrassing that the one application I used to advocate the 770 community appears now to be uninstallable!!!!!

(For those who wonder: five exclamation marks is the Terry Pratchett Lithmus Test For Insanity. And yes: I am virtually there)
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[*]: A preposition I end, whenever I like it, my sentences with.

rcull 2006-09-15 13:17

Try following the links from the garage. I had the same problem but the link in the garage fixed it.

syam 2006-09-15 14:25

I downloaded it to the device then installed it.
It works.

Karel Jansens 2006-09-15 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcull
Try following the links from the garage. I had the same problem but the link in the garage fixed it.

Already tried. *.armel.deb file won't install (is in fact typed as an unrecognized file type by my 770).

Karel Jansens 2006-09-15 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by syam
I downloaded it to the device then installed it.
It works.

No, it doesn't.

rcull 2006-09-15 16:29

https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa...0.23_armel.deb

This is the one I loaded successfully.

Karel Jansens 2006-09-15 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcull
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa...0.23_armel.deb

This is the one I loaded successfully.

My 770 refuses to see it as an installable package.

Karel Jansens 2006-09-15 19:48

Apparently, my 770 doesn't recognize any *.armel.deb files anymore. When I select one (e.g. the new MaemoTeX application, it only allows me to save the file, but claims it has no application to open it with.

Strangely enough, when I added the Zip-repository to my list, it listed unzip and zip after a repository update and that application installed flawlessly.

This really pisses me off: this is the sort of erratic behaviour I've come to expect from a Windoze computer, not a Linux workstation. :mad: I haven't done anything special other than correcting the URL from the one repository in the list that was faulty and prevented updating (another thing that really should not happen). I haven't even gainrooted in the last month.

This only strenghtens my conviction that there is something fundamentally wrong with the "user proof" Linux implementation Nokia threw into the 770 and that the platform, even more so than the Zaurus, needs a proper Linux distribution that noone from Nokia is allowed to touch. Ever.

Open770, where are you?

BanditRider 2006-09-15 19:56

Karel,
You are trying to install the file with the application manager, right?

fpp 2006-09-15 19:57

Have you lost only the mime type for .deb files, or all of them ?

It is said in the home of the brave that the following incantations may retrieve them :

update-mime-database /usr/share/mime
update-desktop-database /usr/share/applications

Karel Jansens 2006-09-15 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by BanditRider
Karel,
You are trying to install the file with the application manager, right?

I first tried to install it with the application manager, but although the repository updated fine, there was no sign of Maemopad+. I then proceeded to download the file from the Garage, but my 770 only offered me to download the file, claiming it did not know what to do with it.

Karel Jansens 2006-09-15 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp
Have you lost only the mime type for .deb files, or all of them ?

It is said in the home of the brave that the following incantations may retrieve them :

update-mime-database /usr/share/mime
update-desktop-database /usr/share/applications

I just did it, but other than that *.png is not recognized (which I really can't be bothered about right now), the first command seems to write its configuration stuff pretty normally. The second command gives no feedback at all. If nothing else, it brushed up my gainrooting skills (which you failed to say was necessary :) ).

This is now rapidly becoming seriously weird: I then went to the newest entry in Planet Maemo (and BTW, will someone please do something about that annoying search-box? It gets in the way on the 770), the Zip-program, clicked on the *.armel.deb file and the download manager offered me the choice to install it, using Application Manager!

Houzee! I thought, but alas, when trying the installation file for Maemopad+ (the one in the Garage), I was back to an unrecognized file as before.

Update: Two seconds before I hit send for this message, I tried one last time with the *.armel.deb file I had saved on my 770, and this time my 770 admitted it knew it was an installable file! Maemopad+ subsequently installed as if nothing had happened.

But I still can't install the maemopad+ file from the Garage. Go figure...

djs_tx 2006-09-15 21:30

nevermind... I did not read the second page and my post was irrelevant.

David

BanditRider 2006-09-15 21:32

I meant from the application manager - menu - Package - Install from file.

That's the proper way to install .deb packages.

Karel Jansens 2006-09-15 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by djs_tx
stupid question, but have you tried downloading the file to your card, opening the application manager and then selecting Package -> install from file from the menu?

What happens when you point to the downloaded .deb with that command?
David

I didn't work, but now has worked. I'm assuming fpp's advice (to use the update commands for the mime and applications database) must have done the trick. Although with some delay, because the first time I tried it, right after issuing the commands, I got the result I had become used to.

But, as I said above, at least with a locally copied installation file, I have now been able to install the single most innovative application of the 770 (but, to put things in perspective, I still think the Newton's Notes app is much better :D ).


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