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Well the same is true of my kids, infarct my n810 yesterday presented the first day I can no longer get touch screen assess. i believe this is a direct result of the love/abuse my kids show to my n810.

hence i need a replacement ASAP.

an Ester Egg for me would be a built in abuse alarm, with time capsule that could preempt the abuse by 2 mints.

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Has an unrestricted version of Skype w- Video been mentioned yet?

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This goes back to my 'an app to order extra styluses'.. a tongue-in-cheek suggestion that the company should support consumers with the ability to buy parts so we can pay someone locally to fix it, or fix it ourselves if we feel so bold.

God--what a glorious easter egg it would be if the device automatically detected damage and automatically sent you an email with a link to order a new part. :)

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Sure, I am imagining myself playing chess with my N900 using voice commands, and then suddenly it says "Just a moment. Just a moment. I've just picked up a fault in the AE-35 unit. It's going to go 100% failure in 72 hours." Then I get my EVA suit and... well, you know how the story goes. :)

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HAL was just misunderstood. Stupid users. :)

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A bottle opener.

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That's not an easter egg, the new kickstand is a bottle opener by design.

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I was thinking that someone should make a "you sunk my battleship" but on a 5 mile or ten mile wide grid requiring atleast 4 people that uses the gps.

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I love it already!

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Stantum multi touch. A breathalyzer and corresponding drinking/clubbing profile that auto switches on and tests me every hour if it gps detects I'm in a club or bar which increasingly makes it bigger font and requires double then triple tap as alcohol content gets higher.
Just kidding, but not about the stantum.

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I'm not sure how well a USB-VGA dongle will work, but if so then it should be easy to make a "docking station" - have a USB hub that you plug in when you get to work. Keyboard and mouse should work out of the box with full X. Also with full X, I don't know that much but a different desktop / window manager should be doable if someone ports it.

Alternatively you can use x11vnc today. I am glad they are making a way to make the mouse cursor visible. That also suggests to me they are planning something beyond a touchscreen. Perhaps a bundled x11vnc server and desktop app?

Beagleboard has a DVI port out but n900 is probably using this for the touchscreen; I haven't looked. If there was an external DVI connector then perhaps it would be possible to switch between the two.

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There are two framebuffers on the OMAP3430 and OMAP3530. The primary XGA framebuffer which is used to drive the DVI-D port on the Beagle and the display on the N900 and the secondary VGA framebuffer which is used for TV-out on both devices.

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Yes, I figured the n900 was using the same port as DVI for the beagleboard. To my knowledge that does not rule out the possibility of switching to an external DVI connector, though both could not be used at the same time.

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packet injection support by wireless driver?

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A lighter! Oh wait, I'm confusing brands now.

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Did you guys already know that the n900 has haptic touch? That was something new to me when i was watching the videos!

Nice. I like haptic touch!

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I didn't like the haptic feedback on Samsung er.. I think one of the Omnias. I thought it was overdone and sort of pointless. But I'll have to wait and try N900's implementation of it.

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Of course this is nokia.... you can always turn it off :D

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And where can I see those videos?

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I don't know what you're implying, but Samsung's can be turned off too.

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Yes, sorry I didn't mention the haptic touch thing in my article. I turned it off right away for similar reasons to ysss (bzzt! bzzt! every time you touch the screen!), but I've been told that the implementation is constantly improving, and the final version may be enjoyable to use.

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Yeah, the skins on the tip of my fingers still work. So I don't need constant reminder that it's touching the screen.

What it needs to 'feel' though, are the (graphic) elements on screen that I can only see but not 'touch': Boundaries of screen elements.. widgets, borders, buttons, and whatnot. But I think there has to be a sense of directionality for this to be useful.

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That would be nice; a little haptic "bump" when you reach the end of a list or try to drag something past a hard boundary, for example.

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Works really well on my 5800. Very subtle, just enough to tell you it saw the touch. Think one or two rotations of the vibra motor.

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There is a nice sensitivity adjustment for the haptic on the 5800 which I have adjusted to the lowest setting, I would hope that there is one on the n900. Once you get used to it its hard to use a non vibration screen, part of the reason I hate typing on my iPod touch.

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The thing which annoyed me about the N900's bzzt (and the screen clicks on any other Maemo device) is that they always go off when you touch the screen, whether you've touched an element which does something or not.

So, as a feedback indicator it's useless: it tells me my touch had been registered. Fine, but the N900's screen is so sensitive, I don't have any concerns it wouldn't be. What I'm interested in is has my touch been picked up as doing what I wanted to do.

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If I understood correctly, I don't really see the problem :p
If you touched at a certain spot (where you really want), and it registered your touch, it's sure that you'll get what you clicked for... I think its purpose is exactly that: tell the user that the click has been registered or not, to avoid him waiting like "is the application launching a bit slowly or didn't it register my touch?". Good that the sensibility of the screen is high, but a feedback like that is always useful imho.
If you test touching on points where it does nothing, then it's exactly that, a test; its target is real use where you're supposed to know where you're touching. :)
Anyway, I'm speaking having never used a Maemo device, so may just be assumptions.

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very interesting thought. - could this be done on an OS level so it automagically works for all applications? (or at least applications that use the standard gtk/hildon framework - same way text input handled?)

or would the application have to provide a clue that this was an active element and will trigger an event?


there's no way - currently ;) - the N900 can tell what you wanted to do :D
(although i have to agree that this would be the ideal UI)

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Right, but it's not registering a click, it's registering a touch. Some UI elements are still quite small (checkboxes in a web page, links etc.); sometimes your touch might be misinterpreted as a drag event (which doesn't do anything on a button). I'm glad that when you touch the screen you know you've hit what you want, but that doesn't correspond to my experience.

Have you ever used any mobile device on the move (say a plane, train, standing still after a raucous Nokia World party)? ;-)

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It certainly could be done at the framework level for "normal" UIs. Anything which did anything a bit differently (web browser being the prime example) would have to trigger it manually (checkboxes, buttons and links on web sites would be fantastic).

The app usually gives those hints to the framework anyway, e.g. so a button can be rendered as disabled.

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most of us have - and without any problems. because mobile device (=devices made to be used on the move) are non-touchscreen and their buttons do have "built-in" tactile feedback. ;)

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any chance the easter-egg will be a Magnetometer? some people say it has one, some say it doesnt..and from all the videos online, nobody really showed the GPS..so im wondering..if it doesnt have it, i will be a bit dissapointed...coz i really want to get the n900..and i guess it cant be added via FW, right?

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Who's saying it has one?

From what I've seen of the GPS, it doesn't have a super-secret compass display, so that's not why people aren't showing it. Just that Ovi Maps is boring to all these long-term Nokia bloggers who've seen it before on S60.

Of course, I may have missed it.

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well, one reviewer who was testing the device on one czech mobile site (and wrote 3 articles about it), when i asked him wheter it has an accelerometer and a magnetometer, told me this:

Polohové čidlo a elektromagnetický kompas má.
In English:
Yes, it has a position sensor and an electromagnetic compass.

So, that's why i ask...

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There is a fair amount of reviewers who can't tell the exact delineation between accelerometers, gyroscopes, compasses and GPS. The unit most likely WILL show a heading (even the N810 does that), but that does not automatically imply the presence of a compass (the heading can be GPS/inertial based). Adding to the confusion is that many high-end devices do have compasses so people say 'the N97 has it, iPhone 3GS has it, then this one has to have it too, right ?'

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just point the camera at the sun and it'll compute based on the local time and gps position where north is ;)

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@jack6428: have you got an url.. so we get a better idea what the reviewer is like. rather than having people making blind assumptions about him..

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sure, i do...but its in Czech (the articles)..the reply i got from him was in comments..anyway, the 3 articles (arranged from oldest to newest):

http://www.mobilmania.cz/clanky/noki...1/default.aspx

http://www.mobilmania.cz/clanky/noki...9/default.aspx

http://www.mobilmania.cz/clanky/noki...9/default.aspx

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This is a video with Nokia's nordic product chief, Linus Brohult - he clearly says, in the end, that the N900 has a digital compass.

http://tv.mediaprovider.se/?id=1252065242875

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