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ysss 2009-09-04 18:47

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
@bobby68: my swedish may be rusty, but didn't he say "This is an almost perfect product, if not for the lack of digital compass." ?









jk :)

zehjotkah 2009-09-04 18:48

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 321646)
@bobby68: my swedish may be rusty, but didn't he say "This is an almost perfect product, if not for the lack of digital compass." ?









jk :)

where is the anti-thanks button??? jk, too ;-) xD

ysss 2009-09-04 18:51

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
dang, it doesn't work as well at the top of the screen.

@zehjotkah: lol.. well i guess we all know what the easter egg is now.

bobby68 2009-09-04 18:53

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 321646)
@bobby68: my swedish may be rusty, but didn't he say "This is an almost perfect product, if not for the lack of digital compass." ?

jk :)


Nope. He says:

"you have the usual navigation, you have digital compass and a-gps with triangulation"

And I hope HE is not kidding...! :)

Jack6428 2009-09-04 21:59

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
so was i right? it has a digital compass/magnetometer? :D

Bundyo 2009-09-04 22:47

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 321325)
Right, but it's not registering a click, it's registering a touch. Some UI elements are still quite small (checkboxes in a web page, links etc.); sometimes your touch might be misinterpreted as a drag event (which doesn't do anything on a button).

That's not exactly true. The drag is on OS level event and on most OSes a drag is interpreted as click if the drag end is still inside the button. Of course if the buttons are really small you're going to leave them anyway on Nxx0.

qole 2009-09-04 23:25

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
If the N900 has a digital compass, it is definitely the Easter Egg.

I saw no sign of it anywhere in any of the apps, only an impressive, system-wide use of the GPS to add location to everything, including geotagging photos, etc.

sachin007 2009-09-04 23:27

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 321824)
If the N900 has a digital compass, it is definitely the Easter Egg.

I saw no sign of it anywhere in any of the apps, only an impressive, system-wide use of the GPS to add location to everything, including geotagging photos, etc.

Does the gps work indoors also. If the gps signal is not enough will it geotag atleast with the co-ordinates using the skyhook system?

Thanks

nashith 2009-09-05 06:53

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
How about a PCI-Express Card slot or SDIO??

bobby68 2009-09-05 07:19

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 321824)
If the N900 has a digital compass, it is definitely the Easter Egg.

I saw no sign of it anywhere in any of the apps, only an impressive, system-wide use of the GPS to add location to everything, including geotagging photos, etc.

No, but there aint no signs in the N97 either, so that's not an indicator.

A small sign COULD be in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4msl4...layer_embedded

When he is showing the map, there IS a compass, down to the left. It's pointing north, just as the N97, when it's not calibrated...

So...?

zehjotkah 2009-09-05 07:43

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby68 (Post 321966)
No, but there aint no signs in the N97 either, so that's not an indicator.

A small sign COULD be in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4msl4...layer_embedded

When he is showing the map, there IS a compass, down to the left. It's pointing north, just as the N97, when it's not calibrated...

So...?

mmmhh... nice find, but i think, that compass only shows, that the maps is orientated to the north, and not to the driving direction.

NvyUs 2009-09-05 07:45

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
some one will need to create a compass app so we can use compass by itself.
n97 never had a dedicated stand alone app either it was only accesable via nokia maps then some one made the app

bobby68 2009-09-05 07:52

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 321968)
mmmhh... nice find, but i think, that compass only shows, that the maps is orientated to the north, and not to the driving direction.

But why? Off course north is up, when not navigating.
Only if the map can rotate, again when not navigating, it's necessary to show the direction to north. Can it rotate...?

bobby68 2009-09-05 07:55

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 321969)
n97 never had a dedicated stand alone app either it was only accesable via nokia maps then some one made the app

That's not true, there are infact atleast two dedicated 3rd party stand alone apps that shows the direction from the compass - "N97 Compass" and "Compass".


Edit: Yeah okay - "Then someone made the app..."
And I'm pretty shure that someone will do the same for N900, if it have that digital compass.

NvyUs 2009-09-05 07:56

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the job of a compass is always to point true north not to point the direction your driving, the compass will always keep your maps pointing correct way they will rotate round as you move so north on map will be true north. heres video to give you idea how maps self correct to north using compass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR_lDvV2ks4
remember map view is different for navigation so you always be rotated to way your driving

bobby68 2009-09-05 08:00

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 321972)
the job of a compass is always to point true north not to point the direction your driving, the compass will always keep your maps pointing correct way they will rotate round as you move so north on map will be true north. heres video to give you idea how maps self correct to north using compass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR_lDvV2ks4
btw theres another arrow to show dirction your driving on your route

I know that, but when you are navigating (driving) there's no need for a compass, because gps signal knows where north is, and the map's up (usualy) points in the driving direction. Therefor and indicator pointing "north" is nice to have. And can be done very well without a digital compass, just by using the gps signal, when driving over a certain speed.

zehjotkah 2009-09-05 08:01

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby68 (Post 321970)
But why? Off course north is up, when not navigating.
Only if the map can rotate, again when not navigating, it's necessary to show the direction to north. Can it rotate...?

i don't know. i had a program (i think it was wayfinder) that hat the option to select if the map will be always orientated to the north (north up) or in driving direction (what's in front of the car up).
it could be also an indication of a compass (i would love if it's so) and i don't know how it is solved in the n97.
i just wanted to say, that this compass-picture NOT NECESSARILY means, that the n900 does have a compass.
but i think, that it does have a compass. some hardware is similar to the n97. why not the compass, too?

ysss 2009-09-05 08:03

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Gps can tell of your direction when moving. It doesn't need a separate sensor, so it shouldn't be taken as conclusve evidence of the existance of one.

bobby68 2009-09-05 08:04

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 321974)
i just wanted to say, that this compass-picture NOT NECESSARILY means, that the n900 does have a compass.

No that's true.
But this, AND the Nordic Product Manager, Linus Brohult saying that N900 has a digital compass...?

But no need to stress about it, we will know when it becomes october... :D

Nah, probably well before that! ;)

zehjotkah 2009-09-05 08:11

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby68 (Post 321976)
No that's true.
But this, AND the Nordic Product Manager, Linus Brohult saying that N900 has a digital compass...?

But no need to stress about it, we will know when it's become october... :D

Nah, probably well before that!

Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 321974)
but i think, that it does have a compass. some hardware is similar to the n97. why not the compass, too?

:D

(post too short... just typing nonsense)

twaelti 2009-09-10 07:38

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
I would say that based on the Irreco for N900 thread, the easter egg is the infrared port...
(Nice nice nice!)

frals 2009-09-10 08:32

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby68 (Post 321976)
No that's true.
But this, AND the Nordic Product Manager, Linus Brohult saying that N900 has a digital compass...?

But no need to stress about it, we will know when it becomes october... :D

Nah, probably well before that! ;)

The thing to discredit his claim is he actually says the device got 1GB of RAM (not application memory but RAM, which is wrong ;)). Might just be a mistake saying RAM instead of app memory, but yeah...

Jack6428 2009-09-10 10:20

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twaelti (Post 324711)
I would say that based on the Irreco for N900 thread, the easter egg is the infrared port...
(Nice nice nice!)

hm, so we have 4 options what the easter-egg could be:

a) IR port
b) haptic display
c) 3D display
d) digital compass

hm...i hope it has all of those lol :D

dwould 2009-09-10 10:25

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack6428 (Post 324746)
hm, so we have 4 options what the easter-egg could be:

a) IR port
b) haptic display
c) 3D display
d) digital compass

hm...i hope it has all of those lol :D


Well it seems pretty clear that IR port is in, we've all seen it in the pictures, and IRRECO has been shown working on device using it.
That's not much of an easter egg... clearly visible on the outside...

I'd *love* 3d compass to be in there, though I'm not getting my hopes up. I think augmented reality apps are really going to take off in the next 12 months.

strank 2009-09-10 11:47

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack6428 (Post 324746)
a) IR port
b) haptic display
c) 3D display
d) digital compass

Don't forget:

e) FM receiver (in addition to the transmitter)

sachin007 2009-09-10 13:59

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
The n97 specifications clearly say that it has a digital compass while the n900 does not. On the other case the n97 specs also says that it has fm radio receiver with rds but the n900 does not say it. And we already know that we are going to get fm radio receiver and infra red receiver even though they were mentioned ..... so i think it would be safe to assume that the digital compass is an easter egg along with the others!

joppu 2009-09-10 14:17

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frals (Post 324723)
The thing to discredit his claim is he actually says the device got 1GB of RAM (not application memory but RAM, which is wrong ;)). Might just be a mistake saying RAM instead of app memory, but yeah...

Well, it's technically not RAM, but it does the exact same thing (with speed hit though)

ysss 2009-09-10 14:18

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
wow sachin, you're pretty productive today! you've set yourself up for so much disappointment this early already :D

Capt'n Corrupt 2009-09-10 17:57

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Hahahaha..

}X^D~

daperl 2009-09-10 20:32

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Can someone post the output of dmesg right after boot? Maybe something like the following:

Code:

dmesg -s 100000 > share_with_us
Maybe we'll learn something. Thanks in advance.

jayhule 2009-09-17 04:01

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Well everyone, been a lurker for a while and will introduce myself in the appropriate thread, but had to link to this article I read from mynokiablog.com a couple days ago. the link is below

long post with a lot of pictures but go all the way 2/3 the way down to #10- UI there is a picture of ovi maps....digital compass!? the author even mentions it as a feature that was never officially put in specs


http://tiny.cc/jNdE8

timsamoff 2009-09-17 04:06

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Sorry, but afaik, it's just a fancy directional UI gizmo that's tied to the GPS. I'd love to be wrong, but... I've been usig it and it doesn't work like a compass.

Tim

ysss 2009-09-17 04:50

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
@timsamoff: maybe the easter egg is the digital compass driver that's only installed in the final release firmware ;D

ps: dang, it shows 11-panes in the task selection screen! is there any (hard coded) limit?

http://mynokiablog.files.wordpress.c...pg?w=550&h=412

R-R 2009-09-17 05:11

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
I've seen somewhere over 12 panes and you could actually scroll vertically with the finger!

daperl 2009-09-17 05:16

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 328328)
ps: dang, it shows 11-panes in the task selection screen! is there any (hard coded) limit?

42

Your question is the Easter egg.

qole 2009-09-17 18:14

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 328306)
Sorry, but afaik, it's just a fancy directional UI gizmo that's tied to the GPS. I'd love to be wrong, but... I've been usig it and it doesn't work like a compass.

Tim

It's actually a way to orient "North" and tilt the maps to give you a 3D view. That grid thing in the middle tilts the map, and you use your finger to drag the N around to wherever you want North to be. No compass!

Let's see if I can put his blog pics here:

http://mynokiablog.files.wordpress.c...pg?w=550&h=412

In the next pics, he's hit the button in the middle and tilted the map into 3D mode:

http://mynokiablog.files.wordpress.c...pg?w=550&h=412

joppu 2009-09-17 18:30

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
The lack of digital compass is really a shame, it's like the only missing feature of otherwise perfect phone.

qole 2009-09-17 18:38

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Well, I also think that its lack of colour fax sending/receiving is quite disappointing. :(

UCOMM 2009-09-17 18:40

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 328657)
Well, I also think that its lack of colour fax sending/receiving is quite disappointing. :(

well thats ********

my brother fax machine could do that in 1983

i think i'll have to hold off on my preorder now

joppu 2009-09-17 18:43

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 328657)
Well, I also think that its lack of colour fax sending/receiving is quite disappointing. :(

But I was being serious ;)

Magnetometer can really help if you are navigating on foot.


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