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sevla 2009-08-20 20:53
Re: First N900 Review
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 313769)
I feel secure in saying my words with which you take issue were a fair interpretation of your posts on the subject. You did take an extreme contrary stance, and yes, what I took issue with was your opinion. Besides, those observations are still largely speculative at this point [here Qgil takes me to task for giving someone else grief over speculation :p]

Anyway, looks like you were up to the internet opinion war challenge! Semantics at 20 paces! Fire!
I digress. Agree to disagree :).

Is this the part where we go to the White House for a beer? LOL

dansus 2009-08-20 20:56
Re: First N900 Review
 
I visited the Nokia store today with a view to buying the N810, its been about 12 months since my first one broke and its a fantastic looking device. I had forgotten just how good it looks, the ergonomics just work and it feels great in the hand.

The thing that hit me was how small it feels for a 4.1" device and i just couldnt get my head round how it would be usable if the screen was any smaller. Now im struggling to see how the 3.5" on the N900 is going work to work as a web tablet, but hoped to be proved wrong.

Of course the cpu on the N810 is mediocre at best and all the reasons i didnt replace my device back then came flooding back. I then showed the store staff Eldars preview and everyone, men and women were crowded round the laptop with approving noises abound.
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ARJWright 2009-08-20 20:57
Re: First N900 Review
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dansus (Post 313785)
I visited the Nokia store today with a view to buying the N810, its been about 12 months since my first one broke and its a fantastic looking device.

I had forgotten just how good it looks, the ergonomics just work and it feels great in the hand. The thing that hit me was how small it feels for a 4.1" device and i just couldnt get my head round how it would be usable if the screen was any smaller.

Now im struggling to see how the 3.5" on the N900 is going work to work as a web tablet, but hoped to be proved wrong.

Of course the cpu on the N810 is mediocre at best and all the reasons i didnt replace my device back then came flooding back. I then showed the store staff Eldars preview and everyone, men and women were crowded round the laptop with approving noises abound.
Did you happen to put your hands on the N97 while you were there?
Compare it size, keyboard, and usable screen real estate to the N810?

Please say you did, that will level out a ton of the noise in this specific thread.

danramos 2009-08-20 20:57
Re: First N900 Review
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 313777)
Folks having issues with a Maemo 5 device sporting cellular connectivity *options,* get over it; this was known for a long time and nothing about a pre-production device's review will change what has already been debated here ad nauseum.
It's become OPTIONAL now? No price to pay for the cellular portion? :) I take issue with the way you posed that whole dismissive.

ARJWright 2009-08-20 21:01
Re: First N900 Review
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 313787)
It's become OPTIONAL now? No price to pay for the cellular portion? :) I take issue with the way you posed that whole dismissive.
There's a smirk in my mouth somewhere...

You don't want to use the cellular access, don't use it; you don't get the option of not having it in *this* device.

If you can make a convincing enough case for Nokia that there are enough people near-enough to the target audiences of this Maemo 5 device that a non-SIM version would be helpful, I'm pretty sure that they would not only listen, but due to some really interesting positioning as a flexible company on the supply chain, logistics, and regional side of things, be able to move.

I'd say though, look for a timeline similar to the N95 and N95 8GB though if you are pitching that.

Otherwise, find my smirk in there somewhere :rolleyes:

zerojay 2009-08-20 21:02
Re: First N900 Review
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sevla (Post 313784)
I digress. Agree to disagree :).

Is this the part where we go to the White House for a beer? LOL
Isn't that why it's called "Maemo Summit"? ;)

sachin007 2009-08-20 21:07
Re: First N900 Review
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by anderbr (Post 313782)
Me too. I hope we have the option at some point for a no phone version. Like blackberry and no-cam versions.

I should wait until a formal announcement to complain, but I find myself much less excited about the n900 than I wanted to be, and was from 770->800->810.

Gone are:
Big-ish screen
$400-ish price
freedom from carrier/contract ( yeah, unlocked blah-blah )
computer friendly keyboard in favor of phone friendly one
dpad, etc.
Not to mention new generic slider-phone styling.


It's becoming more of a paris-hilton chick phone than mobile computer/internet tablet. Which is OK I guess since Nokia sells phones, but not the direction I hoped for or that got me excited about maemo to begin with.

I do like to new horsepower.
Here's to hoping for more variants soon.. maybe nokia can beat apple back to the 4.5 - 5'' tablet.
For all of you who want a 5" phoneless tablet..... there is no point asking nokia for it. Its better we go ask apple to release it first to the market and after 3 years of being a big hit, nokia will say me too!

I am really frustrated with nokia's lack of advertising. The same thing happened to touch screens when nokia came out with the 7710. It was a wonderful widescreen touch screen and there was nil advertising. Now ask anyone who came out with touch screens first?... the answer will be iphone for most of the users. If the same thing happens to tablets... no one can help nokia!

sachin007 2009-08-20 21:08
Re: First N900 Review
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 313788)
There's a smirk in my mouth somewhere...

You don't want to use the cellular access, don't use it; you don't get the option of not having it in *this* device.

If you can make a convincing enough case for Nokia that there are enough people near-enough to the target audiences of this Maemo 5 device that a non-SIM version would be helpful, I'm pretty sure that they would not only listen, but due to some really interesting positioning as a flexible company on the supply chain, logistics, and regional side of things, be able to move.

I'd say though, look for a timeline similar to the N95 and N95 8GB though if you are pitching that.

Otherwise, find my smirk in there somewhere :rolleyes:
How else could you explain the popularity of the ipod touch?

dansus 2009-08-20 21:18
Re: First N900 Review
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 313786)
Did you happen to put your hands on the N97 while you were there?
Compare it size, keyboard, and usable screen real estate to the N810?

Please say you did, that will level out a ton of the noise in this specific thread.
I did. Infact i played with just about every device in the store and i have to say my favourite keyboard of the lot was the E63, i liked it so much, i bought one. £170, bargain and i own a E71. lol

This is the first chance ive had to really play with the N97, omg, what a horrendous device, what was Nokia thinking when they made this this thing. I was just left laughing in the store at the stupidness of the screen angle required and get full access to the keys.The screen is tiny, the keys are tiny and useless, makes me feel sad for Nokia, such a disappointment.

The N810 keyboard as a whole was miles better to use but the keys felt a little flat and lacking in definition, requiring a very positive press to activate, but then this was a demo model which had been hammered.

I left feeling if the keys were of similar size to the N810 and defined like the E71/63 then it would be a fantastic keyboard, which indecently, is exactly what the N900 keys looks like.
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Texrat 2009-08-20 21:19
Re: First N900 Review
 
I still think the RX-51 screen size is too small for a tablet... but I like it for a phone.


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