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Architengi 2009-08-21 04:46

Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
The Nokia device names N900, N97, XM 5800 - couldn't be something more interesting then numbers, numbers, numbers?

How about they create a new brand with a properly choosed name for the maemo device phone-series? Don't they see the advantage of a brand name like "iPhone" used and reused and easy to advertise, over numbers like XM 5800, XM 5610, N900, N95, N97, E71? What do you think?


Even the browser name at Nokia is with no inspiration, for Symbian the browser even has no name and for maemo is named "microb".
And talking about microB, why Noka cannot come with a better name for its web browser? Google is using "Chrome" like the new OS name they announced, so many companies care about the application names... and also device names... remember "Razor" brand name and "iPhone" brand name?

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-21 05:12

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
"Rover" is a name.... ;)

ysss 2009-08-21 05:15

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
I'd rather not get a cool name for my device... that would raise the chance of someone stealing my device when I take it out to the beach in my 3rd world country.

Paxicide 2009-08-21 05:21

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayOnThaBeat (Post 313907)
"Rover" is a name.... ;)

I hope Rover does not live up to his name and turn out to be a dog...:D

"dog" meaning...

Slang.

1. A person regarded as unattractive or uninteresting.
2. Something of inferior or low quality: “The President had read the speech to some of his friends and they told him it was a dog” (John P. Roche).
3. An investment that produces a low return or a loss.

mrojas 2009-08-21 05:36

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 313908)
i'd rather not get a cool name for my device... That would raise the chance of someone stealing my device when i take it out to the beach in my 3rd world country.

LOL! Rover-ed! :D

timoph 2009-08-21 05:48

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paxicide (Post 313909)
I hope Rover does not live up to his name and turn out to be a dog...:D

I like dogs so I'd call that added value.

rcull 2009-08-21 05:58

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
From a slashdot article on life expectancy:

Quote:

What the new analysis reveals is the reality of two Americas, one on par with most of Europe and parts of Asia, and another no different than a third-world nation with the United States placing 41st on the 2008 CIA World Factbook list, behind Bosnia but still edging out Albania.
:):):):)

Paxicide 2009-08-21 06:31

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rcull (Post 313918)
From a slashdot article on life expectancy:



:):):):)

I know exacty what you mean. With that said, do penguins have toes?

ysss 2009-08-21 06:37

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Yeah, I'm kind of confused about the conversion rate between webbed feet, claws, hoofs and toes myself.

PS: This thread has more posts than votes :D

Architengi 2009-08-21 07:39

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 313924)
Yeah, I'm kind of confused about the conversion rate between webbed feet, claws, hoofs and toes myself.

PS: This thread has more posts than votes :D

Don't punish yorself to extremes, go to bed, have a rest, we will talk in the morning when you are less confused. :p

About nintendo DS and iPod what is the similarity?

Architengi 2009-08-21 07:41

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayOnThaBeat (Post 313907)
"Rover" is a name.... ;)

Yes, it is, but what about the official name?

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-21 07:47

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 313924)
Yeah, I'm kind of confused about the conversion rate between webbed feet, claws, hoofs and toes myself.

PS: This thread has more posts than votes :D

With the choices given in that poll, numbers IS okay... ;)

Architengi 2009-08-21 07:58

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayOnThaBeat (Post 313937)
With the choices given in that poll, numbers IS okay... ;)

The choices in the poll are only for some inspiration... I agree they are not cachy ... but this is the question, what name would you propose?

debernardis 2009-08-21 08:06

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
I've already coined the term "maemofonino" in Italian... - so maemophone is my choice!

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-21 08:09

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 313940)
The choices in the poll are only for some inspiration... I agree they are not cachy ... but this is the question, what name would you propose?

I think a big factor in it is how maemo is actually pronounced.

See the link in my sig? That's more for show than anything, I still don't have a clear understanding of how it's said.

Architengi 2009-08-21 08:15

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayOnThaBeat (Post 313945)
I think a big factor in it is how maemo is actually pronounced.

See the link in my sig? That's more for show than anything, I still don't have a clear understanding of how it's said.

maemo - IMHO I was always under impression it is pronounced as in Latin, so "memo" or with English spelling "m-eh-m-oh". Am I wrong?

ysss 2009-08-21 08:18

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Uhh.. as thee flagship device of the N-Series and touted by applehaters everywere as the iPhone killer (sic).. I christen thee...

the nPhone.

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-21 08:31

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 313946)
maemo - IMHO I was always under impression it is pronounced as in Latin, so "memo" or with English spelling "m-eh-m-oh". Am I wrong?

I'm stuck on how they pronounce the "mo" in monica where Jesus is from....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus
So now that the origin is clear, and me being Spanish and Finnish being pronounced almost exactly as Spanish...

"mah-Eh-mo"

mah as the beginning of my
eh as the "e" in "pet"
mo as in Monica, but only pronouncing the M and the O.

Personally, I still say "May-Moe", even tho I know it's wrong.

munky261 2009-08-21 10:25

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Id rather not have a name or anything for that matter plastered on my device...thats the only thing I dont like about the appearance of the new device, is that little tab that says nokia in the upper left.

nominaali 2009-08-21 10:46

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
"Wait! I'll just go and get maPhone" or "You can use maPhone" or "I have maPhone here, let us see what the internet says"

maPhone FTW!

timsamoff 2009-08-21 13:31

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
When devising polls, please include an "Other" or "I don't like any of these choices" option.

Thanks,
Tim

Texrat 2009-08-21 16:21

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
None of the above.

GeraldKo 2009-08-21 17:26

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
While I don't like any of your get-us-thinking choices, I agree the maemo phones/tablets need a brand name.

I think maemo (especially with the proper pronunciation) is a terrible brand name (at least for the US).

I initially thought Blackberry was a stupid name, but it works. It provides a way to refer to the whole line.

"What's that in your pocket?"
"It's a Blackberry" is a lot better than "It's a 7100e from Research in Motion."

Especially if you want people to start relating to it as a unified, distinct sub-category of consumer device. That will become even more important with releases of subsequent models. Once Nokia has established in the public perception what is unique about the N900, if it just follows it with an N910, the numbering doesn't clearly indicate that it's the N900's successor or that it shares the N900's OS; maybe it's like an N97, who knows? Nor can they readily be referred to as a distinct line.

I call my N800 "Nubbins" -- admittedly, a worse name than Blackberry. But it rolls off the tongue easier to say, "Honey, have you seen Nubbins?" than "Honey, have you seen my N800?".

If Nokia started calling them the Nubbins N900 and the Nubbins N900T and the Nubbins N910, etc., at least people would know that if it's a Nubbins, it's a cool device running Maemo OS.

It's just a matter of creating a better brand name than Nubbins (or Blackberry).

Texrat 2009-08-21 17:48

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Well, Maemo is a brand...

zerojay 2009-08-21 18:00

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 314086)
"What's that in your pocket?"
"Honey, have you seen Nubbins?"

Oh my god... trying... so hard.... to hold.... my tongue... SO MUCH... JOKE... POTENTIAL....

GeraldKo 2009-08-21 18:09

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 314094)
Well, Maemo is a brand...

True. And I would prefer MaemoPhone N900 to just Nokia N900. But

(a) I'd like a name without "phone" in it so it could include tablets (and I don't see saying "I have a Maemo in my pocket"); and

(b) I think it's a bad marketing name. I don't like it, do you?

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-21 18:15

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 314086)

I initially thought Blackberry was a stupid name, but it works. It provides a way to refer to the whole line.

Ya, blackberry sounds like a turd :D

timsamoff 2009-08-21 18:16

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Maemo is hard to say, even if you know how to pronounce it. Despite the "iPhone," brand, "MPhone" would be better than Maemo (imho) -- unfortunately, it is too much like the former. Nokia has built a reputation around their numbered devices, so I don't know why N900 (or whatever it turns out to be) wouldn't work.

Still, I like Rover. I think it's pretty cool (even with its connotations to the dog name).

Tim

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-21 18:19

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nominaali (Post 313974)
"Wait! I'll just go and get maPhone" or "You can use maPhone" or "I have maPhone here, let us see what the internet says"

maPhone FTW!

First off, GREAT first post :)

However, maPhone sounds like something that your mother would be using... something like this.

GeraldKo 2009-08-21 18:20

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 314100)
Oh my god... trying... so hard.... to hold.... my tongue... SO MUCH... JOKE... POTENTIAL....

Believe me, I'm well aware!

The name came, btw, from a GREAT This American Life episode. It's the third episode ("Act Three. Babies Buying Babies.") from this link:

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radi...spx?sched=1278
.

debernardis 2009-08-21 18:25

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Indeed, numbered models bring that touch of understatement that's not so bad. I'm curious of what will be chosen by the marketing... what testimonials... which situations in spots!
I'd also propose - at least for a nerd marketing niche - a big compound image including all the avatars of us fellow ITT/TMO wastrels :)

Texrat 2009-08-21 18:30

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
emPhone, then. And emTablet. For EMpowered people.

Oops, I just designed the brand AND slogan. :D

JayOnThaBeat 2009-08-21 18:34

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
What about the "IT Phone" ... as in "that's the it phone." (not I.T.)

///EDIT:

Advertisement: Ashton Kutcher receiving a call, and then googling directions, and someone over his shoulder is like "What is that?" and their friend says "That's the new IT Phone!"

(I don't know why Ashton Kutcher...)

GeraldKo 2009-08-21 18:36

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 314106)
Nokia has built a reputation around their numbered devices, so I don't know why N900 (or whatever it turns out to be) wouldn't work.

Tim, don't you think it would be better to have a name that distinguishes the Maemo line from the Symbian phones, and gives them a unified category of their own? I also think that in the US the Nokia brand is lacking in Cool Factor and rebranding for this rather revolutionary set of devices would be good for their marketing.

Texrat 2009-08-21 18:39

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 314121)
Tim, don't you think it would be better to have a name that distinguishes the Maemo line from the Symbian phones, and gives them a unified category of their own? I also think that in the US the Nokia brand is lacking in Cool Factor and rebranding for this rather revolutionary set of devices would be good for their marketing.

If only you guys could have been in on the strategy sessions inside Nokia. :D That came up so many times in so many places, especially from the US. There has been some give recently (see: Nokia Surge) so who knows...

nwerneck 2009-08-21 19:09

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 313908)
I'd rather not get a cool name for my device... that would raise the chance of someone stealing my device when I take it out to the beach in my 3rd world country.

Robbers don't usually know or understand official cool names of these things, they either use an incorrect pronunciation or come up with some strange slang nickname. :p

sjgadsby 2009-08-21 19:17

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 314106)
Nokia has built a reputation around their numbered devices...

There's some speculation that Nokia is moving away from numbers though, at least for Americans:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Computerworld
...Nokia introduced a new smartphone called Surge -- a move that was significant because it marked the first time the manufacturer had shipped a model without a number in its name. Analysts see that as a subtle move by the engineering-focused Scandinavian company to start using American marketing techniques.

EDIT: Ah, I now see Texrat has already covered this.

mrojas 2009-08-21 19:21

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
I am pretty sure I read somewhere that a Nokian said that the "Surge" name was on purpose because researched showed that American persons don't feel oriented enough with numbered devices.

There was also a mention on how cool things with "X" on the name sound... the Xphone? lol

dormant 2009-08-21 19:33

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
The Nokia Communicator.

I think that brand worked, so why don't they carry on with it!

Texrat 2009-08-21 19:37

Re: Nokia needs a name-brand for the maemo devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrojas (Post 314136)
I am pretty sure I read somewhere that a Nokian said that the "Surge" name was on purpose because researched showed that American persons don't feel oriented enough with numbered devices.

There was also a mention on how cool things with "X" on the name sound... the Xphone? lol

LOL... research... feh. The bulk of that research was US marketeers saying that over and over and over again... with it falling on deaf ears for years.

Also, wasn't an "X" series just trademarked by Nokia?


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